Al Qaeda not trying to get into US?

[jimnyc]

Some won't believe that Al Qaeda has ties in the US, or that sleeper cells might actually exist right down the road from us. These people will continue to try and find new ways to attack, hence me continually saying we need to remain vigilant against these scumbags. This guy planned on using remote control toys to blow shit up!

Massachusetts Man to Plead Guilty in Model Plane Terror Plot

A Massachusetts man accused of plotting to attack the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol building with model planes filled with C-4 explosives will plead guilty to two terror charges, say prosecutors, and serve a 17-year federal sentence.

According to court documents filed by prosecutors and attorneys for Rezwan Ferdaus, a Northeastern University physics graduate and U.S. citizen, Ferdaus has agreed to plead guilty to attempting to provide material support to terrorists and attempting to damage and destroy federal buildings by means of an explosive.

Ferdaus, 27, was arrested at the culmination of a long-term sting operation by undercover FBI agents posing as Al Qaeda operatives.

According to investigators, Ferdaus believed he had been working for al Qaeda since 2010, when he began modifying cell phones to serve as electrical switches for improvised explosive devices (IEDs) to be passed on to fighters in the Middle East and then providing them to the supposed operatives.

"During a June 2011 meeting, he appeared gratified when he was told that his first phone detonation device had killed three U.S. soldiers and injured four or five others in Iraq. Ferdaus responded, 'That was exactly what I wanted,'" the Department of Justice said in a statement in September 2011.

The alleged model-plane plot called for Ferdaus to command a team of six operatives to use remote-controlled aircraft filled with explosives to attack the Pentagon and the Capitol before shooting survivors in a subsequent "ground" attack.

Ferdaus allegedly travelled to Washington, D.C. to conduct reconnaissance on his targets. Ferdaus was arrested in Framingham, Mass. in September 2011 after he took delivery of the AK-47 rifles, grenades and C-4 explosives that were allegedly to be used in the attack.

http://news.yahoo.com/massachusetts-...opstories.html

[ConHog]

Some won't believe that Al Qaeda has ties in the US, or that sleeper cells might actually exist right down the road from us. These people will continue to try and find new ways to attack, hence me continually saying we need to remain vigilant against these scumbags. This guy planned on using remote control toys to blow shit up!



http://news.yahoo.com/massachusetts-...opstories.html

Hmm the article says the man THOUGHT he was working for AQ, and that FBI agents posed as AQ agents, it doesn't say anything about AQ actually being involved.

AQ is a dead organization. Just a few scraps left laying around. Doesn't mean there aren't fools who will try stupid stuff and claim they are associated with them or what have you, but they're gone.

And that's not to say other groups don't exist which would like to cause harm to the US.

[jimnyc]

Hmm the article says the man THOUGHT he was working for AQ, and that FBI agents posed as AQ agents, it doesn't say anything about AQ actually being involved.

AQ is a dead organization. Just a few scraps left laying around. Doesn't mean there aren't fools who will try stupid stuff and claim they are associated with them or what have you, but they're gone.

And that's not to say other groups don't exist which would like to cause harm to the US.

Nor did I state this man was Al Qaeda, hence me posting the article and link. Al Qaeda is more than just "scraps", and they would love to hit us again if they could. And this article shows that we have people here in the US that would gladly serve for Al Qaeda.

And you say they are gone - then why are they still claiming responsibility for terrorism elsewhere? They just claimed to be responsible for a shitload of bombings and assassinations of Shiites through the month of June. If they have the capability to perform so many acts within a month, I assure you, they aren't done.

[ConHog]

Nor did I state this man was Al Qaeda, hence me posting the article and link. Al Qaeda is more than just "scraps", and they would love to hit us again if they could. And this article shows that we have people here in the US that would gladly serve for Al Qaeda.

And you say they are gone - then why are they still claiming responsibility for terrorism elsewhere? They just claimed to be responsible for a shitload of bombings and assassinations of Shiites through the month of June. If they have the capability to perform so many acts within a month, I assure you, they aren't done.

Your OP DID imply that this guy was AQ.

As for other attacks claimed by AQ, I agree there are a few left out there, scraps, but nothing like the organization that pulled off 9/11.

[jimnyc]

Your OP DID imply that this guy was AQ.

As for other attacks claimed by AQ, I agree there are a few left out there, scraps, but nothing like the organization that pulled off 9/11.

Scraps apparently killed hundreds and wounded over 600 in June alone, and that's just in one country. I'm sure the few hundred dead would disagree with you that it's scraps. Maybe not with the leadership they had 10 years ago, but they're hardly "scraps" incapable of causing widespread deaths and destruction.

[ConHog]

Scraps apparently killed hundreds and wounded over 600 in June alone, and that's just in one country. I'm sure the few hundred dead would disagree with you that it's scraps. Maybe not with the leadership they had 10 years ago, but they're hardly "scraps" incapable of causing widespread deaths and destruction.

I guess I have missed this story entirely. Link? Seriously

[jimnyc]

I guess I have missed this story entirely. Link? Seriously

This is just one of many stories from Al Qaeda around the world

http://news.yahoo.com/iraqs-al-qaeda...164333107.html

And they are responsible for more destruction than just lives

http://news.yahoo.com/mali-parliamen...1PvEcApSXQtDMD

[gabosaurus]

Why would anyone think that AQ hasn't infiltrated in the U.S.

I doubt they are as numerous or as dangerous as Mexican drug cartels, who have also infiltrated this country.

[jafar00]

So, a delusional nutjob who was encouraged by FBI agents is proof of an Al Qaeda conspiracy?

I accept your Al Qaeda conspiracy and raise you a man who thinks he is Jesus

Man ran barefoot through Knock claiming he was Jesus

[Kathianne]

Why would anyone think that AQ hasn't infiltrated in the U.S.

I doubt they are as numerous or as dangerous as Mexican drug cartels, who have also infiltrated this country.

and I wouldn't doubt that there are 'al quade operatives amongst the Mexican drug cartels. Our open borders make anything else, laughable.

[jimnyc]

So, a delusional nutjob who was encouraged by FBI agents is proof of an Al Qaeda conspiracy?

I accept your Al Qaeda conspiracy and raise you a man who thinks he is Jesus

Man ran barefoot through Knock claiming he was Jesus

I suppose it's a good thing we don't have Christians running around various parts of the world blowing up innocents in the name of God!! Well, maybe one Christian for every 1,000 Muslims.

[Kathianne]

I suppose it's a good thing we don't have Christians running around various parts of the world blowing up innocents in the name of God!! Well, maybe one Christian for every 1,000 Muslims.

Even within our country, you are overstating the case. There are less than 'one Christian motivated nutjob' for 1000 non-ideological nutjobs.'

[cadet]

Even within our country, you are overstating the case. There are less than 'one Christian motivated nutjob' for 1000 non-ideological nutjobs.'

Ever heard of the westbro baptist church? yeah. they give me a bad name every time i say "Yes, in fact i am a christian."
I've... I've sent a lot of angry letters to them.

[Kathianne]

Ever heard of the westbro baptist church? yeah. they give me a bad name every time i say "Yes, in fact i am a christian."
I've... I've sent a lot of angry letters to them.

Indeed. And their numbers? Oh yea. Thank you for making my point.

[Drummond]

Just seen the nonsense claiming that the Al Qaeda of today are mere 'scraps'.

I for one accept that the War on Terror has done Al Qaeda very significant damage (.. and what better reason for continuing to fight it, even to ramp up the effort ??). But anyone wanting to write Al Qaeda off is making one massive mistake.

Here's a link to add to those already posted. It's just two months old.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...bomb-plot.html

Although the latest attempt to take down an aircraft using a bomb hidden in underwear failed, the plot still shows al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula is making "big inroads" as the most active affiliate of the terrorist network, said Michael Leiter, former director of the National Counterterrorism Center.

Al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula is building a command structure and securing operational space in Yemen, Leiter said. The group has several hundred members and is committed to attacking the government of Yemen and to actively recruiting foreigners, especially Americans, for attacks within the United States, he said.

A bomb recently seized by U.S. authorities in an unspecified country in the Middle East, purportedly designed by al-Qaida bomb-maker Ibrahim Hassan al-Asiri, appears to be a redesigned version of the underwear bomb that failed to detonate on an airplane headed to Detroit on Christmas 2009. The FBI is studying the device now.

This latest suicide bombing reportedly was planned for the anniversary of the killing of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden on May 2.

But let's assume, just for argument (and I don't believe this for a minute) that Al Qaeda of today could be regarded as 'mere scraps' compared to their strength in 2001. SO WHAT ? Nobody could just suppose that Al Qaeda is incapable of rebuilding and recruiting !!

How many Al Qaeda terrorists did it take to attack the US on 11th September 2001, anyway ?

And how many would it take, in the future, say, to deploy a WMD ?

Al Qaeda can be very small, yet nonetheless remain viable as a very serious threat to your security.

Just ONE Al Qaeda terrorist, infected with a biological agent, acting as a plague carrier, could ensure that just such a contagion spreads far and wide.

There is, ultimately, one solution, and only one. The War on Terror continues, for HOWEVER long it takes, until the likes of Al Qaeda are utterly smashed.