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    Default Syria's WMD's could someday be used here on us.

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-Ne...4471342896037/

    Barak: Israel ready to seize Syria weapons

    Published: July 21, 2012 at 2:40 PM
    JERUSALEM, July 21 (UPI) -- The Israeli military is prepared to seize Syria's chemical weapons and missiles and to stop refugees from crossing the border, Defense Minister Ehud Barak said.

    Barak said Friday that Israel will block any move by President Bashar Assad's regime to transfer advanced weaponry to Hezbollah in Lebanon, Ynetnews reported. He said the army has been ordered to increase its monitoring of Syria's weapons stockpiles.

    If necessary, Israel would strike inside Syria, Barak said.

    Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-Ne...#ixzz21IEN5iPg

    America had better be very worried about where those weapons end up. In the wrong hands they could be used here on us as well as on Israel! Those fanatical idiots seek to destroy both big and little Satans. If Israel rushes in to secure those weapons , obama will seek to join those opposed to Israel's actions! How do I know this ? I know because obama has stated that in the end he will ALWAYS side with Islam! Look up his words on that. He currently plays a game but if given a second term he will come out strongly against Israel and possibly even directly join forces with Israel's sworn enemies. I pray we never find out how correct I am on that because if we do America will suffer so much under an obama second term that few here would ever believe it until after it happened! Too damn late is one ffing bad place to be , trust me on that even if nothing else...-Tyr
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    .. And where did Syria's WMD's come from, anyway ?

    All the talk (mostly from the Left) about how wrong you were to go to war against Saddam's Iraq, how it was all 'lies' that Saddam had WMD's. Well, there was talk that Saddam used a certain six month window he had to move his WMD's across to Syria.

    Now, 'all of a sudden', we learn that Syria has WMD's !! I don't know about your media, but ours is reporting claims that Syria is prepared to use WMD's, but NOT ONE WORD is said about how Assad got them.

    And naturally not. Looking into that question would be way too awkward for them.
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    .. And where did Syria's WMD's come from, anyway ?

    All the talk (mostly from the Left) about how wrong you were to go to war against Saddam's Iraq, how it was all 'lies' that Saddam had WMD's. Well, there was talk that Saddam used a certain six month window he had to move his WMD's across to Syria.

    Now, 'all of a sudden', we learn that Syria has WMD's !! I don't know about your media, but ours is reporting claims that Syria is prepared to use WMD's, but NOT ONE WORD is said about how Assad got them.

    And naturally not. Looking into that question would be way too awkward for them.
    Got any proof to go along with that speculation.

    And I always ask IF what you say is true WHY didn't we go get them if WMD's where what we concerned about?

    But I 've been told that there where a million other piss poor reasons to attack Iraq too Durmond.

    And. if Syria has had these horrible weapons the whole time and we knew about them why is it an issue NOW? If Syria was so evil they could have given them to Hell-bolah etc LONG ago anytime in the past 10 years.


    Sorry, this is just more fear mongering for preemptive (aggressive) wars we don't need, can't afford and will get more US and UK soldiers killed for BS IMO.
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    Revelarts, you want me to prove a negative ?

    Quite the contrary .. if you seriously believe that Syria's WMD's actually did NOT come from Iraq, that Syria either made them herself or bought them from elsewhere, I invite you to provide proof of THAT.

    If you can't ... then YOU explain away the media's twin acceptance that Syria has them, along with their lack of candidness as to HOW they have !!

    ... and YES, by the way, I already tried to find that proof of Syria's self-manufacture of its WMD's. I totally failed to find any. If you can prove such a case, go to it !
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    Oh, and by the way .. I DID find THIS ....

    http://www.free-lebanon.net/syria/sy...nted-on-video/

    Syrian WMD exists, in large stockpiles, much coming from Iraq before the invasion to topple Saddam Hussein way back in 2003. FSA freedom fighters have published a video of the locations of at least two caches of chemical weapons today!

    Though many called the Bush administration liars over the subject of Iraqi WMD stockpiles at the time, and soon after the nation was secured, they failed to understand there was a major exodus conducted that few detractors wanted to believe.

    We now know this was true, as the Saddam Tapes of 2006 revealed, and as we now see that all governments of the world concede the fact that Syria has a huge stockpile, especially Chemical Weapons.
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    .... back again ....

    I intended to log off by now, but as Mr P also commented, I felt sure that there must be old reporting out there to help illustrate the window Saddam had, and what he did with it, to move WMD's out of his territory. So ..

    .... Have just now found this, dating back six years ...

    http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-w...da-says/26514/

    The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.

    The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.

    "There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands," Mr. Sada said. "I am confident they were taken over."

    Mr. Sada's comments come just more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."

    Democrats have made the absence of stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq a theme in their criticism of the Bush administration's decision to go to war in 2003. And President Bush himself has conceded much of the point; in a televised prime-time address to Americans last month, he said, "It is true that many nations believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. But much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong."

    Said Mr. Bush, "We did not find those weapons."

    The discovery of the weapons in Syria could alter the American political debate on the Iraq war. And even the accusations that they are there could step up international pressure on the government in Damascus.
    Of course, Leftie determination to make the 'Iraq didn't have any WMD's' case stick drowned out any protests to the contrary .. after all, one fights their propaganda at one's peril, no matter how disgusting their lies are !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    .. And where did Syria's WMD's come from, anyway ?

    All the talk (mostly from the Left) about how wrong you were to go to war against Saddam's Iraq, how it was all 'lies' that Saddam had WMD's. Well, there was talk that Saddam used a certain six month window he had to move his WMD's across to Syria.

    Now, 'all of a sudden', we learn that Syria has WMD's !!
    I don't know about your media, but ours is reporting claims that Syria is prepared to use WMD's, but NOT ONE WORD is said about how Assad got them.

    And naturally not. Looking into that question would be way too awkward for them.
    Yep, I remember that. Seems there was some proof at the time too...but I sure don't remember the source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
    Yep, I remember that. Seems there was some proof at the time too...but I sure don't remember the source.
    I went to the 'old site' to see if I could find my posts from the time. No luck, they dropped all posts before 2005. However, a more general search I came up with this:

    http://pjmedia.com/blog/satellite-ph...went-to-syria/

    Satellite Photos Support Testimony That Iraqi WMD Went to Syria

    The history books on this issue shouldn’t be written just yet.


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    June 6, 2010 - 12:08 am

    Ha’aretz has revived [1] the mystery surrounding the inability to find weapons of mass destruction stockpiles in Iraq, the most commonly cited justification for Operation Iraqi Freedom and one of the most embarrassing episodes for the United States. Satellite photos of a suspicious site in Syria are providing new support for the reporting of a Syrian journalist who briefly rocked the world with his reporting that Iraq’s WMD had been sent to three sites in Syria just before the invasion commenced.


    The newspaper reveals that a 200 square-kilometer area in northwestern Syria has been photographed by satellites at the request of a Western intelligence agency at least 16 times, the most recent being taken in January. The site is near Masyaf, and it has at least five installations and hidden paths leading underneath the mountains. This supports the reporting of Nizar Nayouf, an award-winning Syrian journalist who said [2] in 2004 that his sources confirmed that Saddam Hussein’s WMDs were in Syria.


    One of the three specific sites he mentioned was an underground base underneath Al-Baida, which is one kilometer south of Masyaf. This is a perfect match. The suspicious features in the photos and the fact that a Western intelligence agency is so interested in the site support Nayouf’s reporting, showing that his sources in Syria did indeed have access to specific information about secret activity that is likely WMD-related. Richard Radcliffe, one of my co-writers at WorldThreats.com, [3] noticed that Masyaf is located on a road that goes from Hamah, where there is an airfield sufficient to handle relatively large aircraft, into Lebanon and the western side of the Bekaa Valley, another location said to house Iraqi weapons.


    It seems to be commonly accepted that Iraq did not have WMDs at all. The intelligence was obviously flawed, but the book has not been closed on what actually happened. The media blasted the headline that Charles Duelfer, the head of the Iraq Survey Group tasked with finding out if Saddam had WMDs, concluded that a transfer did not occur. In reality, his report said [4] they were “unable to complete its investigation and is unable to rule out the possibility that WMD was evacuated to Syria before the war” due to the poor security situation.


    Although no conclusion was made, Duelfer has since said that he is “convinced” that no WMD went to Syria. He is a competent and credible individual, but there is evidence that key information on this possibility was not received by the Iraq Survey Group, which had many of its own problems.


    On February 24, 2009, I went to see a talk Duelfer gave at the Free Library of Philadelphia to promote his book [5]. He admitted there were some “loose ends” regarding the possibility that Iraqi WMD went to Syria, but dismissed them. Among these “loose ends,” Duelfer said, was the inability to track down the Iraqis who worked for a company connected to Uday Hussein that sources said had driven “sensitive” material into Syria. A Pentagon document reveals [6] that an Iraqi dissident reported that 50 trucks crossed the border on March 10, 2003, and that his sources in Syria confirmed they carried WMD. These trucks have been talked about frequently and remain a mystery.


    During the question-and-answer period and during a follow-up interview, Duelfer made several interesting statements to me that reinforced my confidence that such a transfer occurred, although we can not be sure of the extent of it.


    General Georges Sada, the former second-in-command of the Iraqi Air Force, claimed in his 2006 book [7] that he knew two Iraqi pilots that flew WMD into Syria over the summer of 2002, which came before a later shipment on the ground. I asked Duelfer if Nizar Nayouf or the two Iraqi pilots were spoken with.


    “I did not interview the pilots nor did I speak with the Syrian journalist you mentioned,” he said. “We were inundated with WMD reports and could not investigate them all. … To narrow the problem, we investigated those people and places we knew would have either been involved or aware of regime WMD activities.”


    He then told me that the lack of testimony about such dealings is what convinced him that “a lot of material went to Syria, but no WMD.” He cited the testimony of Naji Sabri, the former Iraqi foreign minister, in particular.


    “I knew him very well, and I had been authorized to make his life a lot better, or a lot worse,” he told me.
    He said that Sabri’s position would make him aware of any such deal between the two countries. However, in his book, Duelfer said that Sabri had nothing to do with any of Iraq’s WMD efforts at any time. “His statements on WMD from an intelligence perspective would have been irrelevant,” Duelfer wrote.


    “Someone among the people we interviewed would have described this,” Duelfer said. However, such testimony does exist. Don Bordenkircher, who served as the national director of jail and prison operations in Iraq for two years, told me [8] that he spoke to about 40 Iraqis, either military personnel or civilians assigned to the military, who talked about the WMDs going to Syria and Lebanon, with some claiming they were actually involved. Their stories matched and were not contradictory, he said. Another military source of mine related [9] to me how an Iraqi intelligence captain in Al-Qaim claimed to have witnessed the movement of suspicious convoys into Syria between February and March 2003.


    I also asked Duelfer if he was aware of the intelligence provided by the Ukrainians and other sources that the Russians were in Iraq helping to cleanse the country shortly before the invasion. His facial expressions before I even finished the question showed he genuinely had never even heard of this...





    One other, older reference:

    http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-w...da-says/26514/


    The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.


    The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.


    "There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands," Mr. Sada said. "I am confident they were taken over."


    Mr. Sada's comments come just more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."


    Democrats have made the absence of stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq a theme in their criticism of the Bush administration's decision to go to war in 2003. And President Bush himself has conceded much of the point; in a televised prime-time address to Americans last month, he said, "It is true that many nations believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. But much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong."


    Said Mr. Bush, "We did not find those weapons."


    The discovery of the weapons in Syria could alter the American political debate on the Iraq war. And even the accusations that they are there could step up international pressure on the government in Damascus. That government, led by Bashar Assad, is already facing a U.N. investigation over its alleged role in the assassination of a former prime minister of Lebanon. The Bush administration has criticized Syria for its support of terrorism and its failure to cooperate with the U.N. investigation.


    The State Department recently granted visas for self-proclaimed opponents of Mr. Assad to attend a "Syrian National Council" meeting in Washington scheduled for this weekend, even though the attendees include communists, Baathists, and members of the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood group to the exclusion of other, more mainstream groups.


    Mr. Sada, 65, told the Sun that the pilots of the two airliners that transported the weapons of mass destruction to Syria from Iraq approached him in the middle of 2004, after Saddam was captured by American troops....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I went to the 'old site' to see if I could find my posts from the time. No luck, they dropped all posts before 2005. However, a more general search I came up with this:

    http://pjmedia.com/blog/satellite-ph...went-to-syria/



    One other, older reference:

    http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-w...da-says/26514/

    that's a good report, Sounds a bit breathless and hopeful though.
    Again you guys should be 9-11 toofers if the level of evidence only needs to rise to this level.


    Satellite Photos Support Testimony That Iraqi WMD Went to Syria

    The history books on this issue shouldn’t be written just yet.


    by
    Ryan Mauro
    Bio

    June 6, 2010 - 12:08 am

    Ha’aretz has revived [1] the mystery surrounding the inability to find weapons of mass destruction stockpiles in Iraq, the most commonly cited justification for Operation Iraqi Freedom and one of the most embarrassing episodes for the United States. Satellite photos of a suspicious site in Syria are providing new support for the reporting of a Syrian journalist who briefly rocked the world with his reporting that Iraq’s WMD had been sent to three sites in Syria just before the invasion commenced.


    The newspaper reveals that a 200 square-kilometer area in northwestern Syria has been photographed by satellites at the request of a Western intelligence agency at least 16 times, the most recent being taken in January. The site is near Masyaf, and it has at least five installations and hidden paths leading underneath the mountains. This supports the reporting of Nizar Nayouf, an award-winning Syrian journalist who said [2] in 2004 that his sources confirmed that Saddam Hussein’s WMDs were in Syria.

    The mere presence of a facility and Hidden Path Supports it?

    One of the three specific sites he mentioned was an underground base underneath Al-Baida, which is one kilometer south of Masyaf. This is a perfect match. The suspicious features in the photos and the fact that a Western intelligence agency is so interested in the site support Nayouf’s reporting, showing that his sources in Syria did indeed have access to specific information about secret activity that is likely WMD-related. Richard Radcliffe, one of my co-writers at WorldThreats.com, [3] noticed that Masyaf is located on a road that goes from Hamah, where there is an airfield sufficient to handle relatively large aircraft, into Lebanon and the western side of the Bekaa Valley, another location said to house Iraqi weapons.


    It seems to be commonly accepted that Iraq did not have WMDs at all. The intelligence was obviously flawed, (LIED ABOUT -Re Curveball) but the book has not been closed on what actually happened. The media blasted the headline that Charles Duelfer, the head of the Iraq Survey Group tasked with finding out if Saddam had WMDs, concluded that a transfer did not occur. In reality, his report said [4] they were “unable to complete its investigation and is unable to rule out the possibility that WMD was evacuated to Syria before the war” due to the poor security situation.


    Although no conclusion was made, Duelfer has since said that he is “convinced” that no WMD went to Syria. He is a competent and credible individual, but there is evidence that key information on this possibility was not received by the Iraq Survey Group, which had many of its own problems.


    On February 24, 2009, I went to see a talk Duelfer gave at the Free Library of Philadelphia to promote his book [5]. He admitted there were some “loose ends” regarding the possibility that Iraqi WMD went to Syria, but dismissed them. Among these “loose ends,” Duelfer said, was the inability to track down the Iraqis who worked for a company connected to Uday Hussein that sources said had driven “sensitive” material into Syria. A Pentagon document reveals [6] that an Iraqi dissident reported (wasn't curveball was it?) that 50 trucks crossed the border on March 10, 2003, and that his sources in Syria confirmed they carried WMD. These trucks have been talked about frequently and remain a mystery.


    During the question-and-answer period and during a follow-up interview, Duelfer made several interesting statements to me that reinforced my confidence that such a transfer occurred, although we can not be sure of the extent of it.


    General Georges Sada, the former second-in-command of the Iraqi Air Force, claimed in his 2006 book [7] that he knew two Iraqi pilots that flew WMD into Syria over the summer of 2002, which came before a later shipment on the ground. I asked Duelfer if Nizar Nayouf or the two Iraqi pilots were spoken with.


    “I did not interview the pilots nor did I speak with the Syrian journalist you mentioned,” he said. “We were inundated with WMD reports and could not investigate them all. … To narrow the problem, we investigated those people and places we knew would have either been involved or aware of regime WMD activities.”


    He then told me that the lack of testimony about such dealings is what convinced him that “a lot of material went to Syria, but no WMD.” He cited the testimony of Naji Sabri, the former Iraqi foreign minister, in particular.


    “I knew him very well, and I had been authorized to make his life a lot better, or a lot worse,” he told me.
    He said that Sabri’s position would make him aware of any such deal between the two countries. However, in his book, Duelfer said that Sabri had nothing to do with any of Iraq’s WMD efforts at any time. “His statements on WMD from an intelligence perspective would have been irrelevant,” Duelfer wrote.


    “Someone among the people we interviewed would have described this,” Duelfer said. However, such testimony does exist. Don Bordenkircher, who served as the national director of jail and prison operations in Iraq for two years, told me [8] that he spoke to about 40 Iraqis, either military personnel or civilians assigned to the military, who talked about the WMDs going to Syria and Lebanon, with some claiming they were actually involved. (This is Interesting but it's one source giving the testmony of 40 + , if true it would be very good evidence. )Their stories matched and were not contradictory, he said. Another military source of mine related [9] to me how an Iraqi intelligence captain in Al-Qaim claimed to have witnessed the movement of suspicious convoys into Syria between February and March 2003.


    I also asked Duelfer if he was aware of the intelligence provided by the Ukrainians and other sources that the Russians were in Iraq helping to cleanse the country shortly before the invasion. His facial expressions before I even finished the question showed he genuinely had never even heard of this...
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    Why are we even concerned about Syria?
    General Wesley Clark
    HEARD that there was a plan to attack 7 governments of 7 countries in 5 years . back in 2001-02 from people in the pentagon and directly from Wolfawitz. The policy really hasn't changed it seems.
    Countries listed below !

    Iraq, CHECK
    Libya, CHECK
    Syria, CHEC.....
    Lebanon,
    Samolia,
    Sudan
    and Iran CHE... CHE... CHE...
    ( 7 countries in 5 years)

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    This is the same old story, isn't it ? Lefties absolutely refusing to accept either evidence or doubts which blow a hole in their cherished beliefs.

    Here's part of what's laughable about this whole 'did they have them or didn't they, and what did they do with them' controversy about Iraq's WMD's.

    Iraq was KNOWN to have WMD's at the time of Gulf War #1, when Saddam's invasion force was kicked out of Kuwait ... after all, they'd used one against the Kurds, just a couple of years previously !! Part of the agreement by which that invasion force wasn't utterly crushed, why they were allowed back into Iraq territory and not fought against further, was that Saddam would become totally accountable for the weaponry his regime held.

    So, the long and drawn-out farce of UN Resolution after UN Resolution being passed, then defied, kicked off ... and lasted over a DECADE.

    Saddam never did give a full account of those weapons. Only after the especially toughly worded Resolution 1441 did he take them even half seriously, and even then, what did he do ? Just declared that he had no weapons of mass destruction. No numbers of them were supplied. No totals of what had been held, and when, and what quantities destroyed, where and when. NOTHING of that sort was definitively declared.

    No, Saddam merely 'gave his word' that none were held. That, and also some inspectors were taken to sites where it could be proved that WMD's had been destroyed. No amounts declared. No precise records ever released properly detailing the tally of how much had been destroyed, and how that related to the total stockpile.

    Saddam ... 'gave his word'. And for all the strong protests from the Left, it's a fact that the 'we are sure Iraq had no WMD's' just comes down to a blind faith IN SADDAM'S WORD. This from a brutal, rogue leader who'd evaded giving direct accounts of anything held for over a decade, and who was persisting in his evasiveness !!

    Between the passing of UN Resolution 1441 and the Iraq invasion, Saddam had several months to ensure that and stocks held could be hidden or moved, or both. But the Left has always been wilfully blind to that, choosing instead their myopic propagandising over facing realities squarely.

    So it's hardly surprising, is it, that any and all evidence suggesting that Iraqi WMD's are now held by Syria will likewise be rejected out of hand.

    If Lefties in the US were confronted with news that police had discovered a Syrian terrorist cell in their territory, that they were holding a cache of Iraqi-acquired WMD's all primed for deployment, WMD's clearly stamped 'Made In Iraq' on them, and if that terrorist cell just happened to have documented evidence of when, where and how Syria had got a hold of them, if all of that could be PROVED, still, they'd refuse to believe any of it. They'd say it was all 'a Right wing plot', or that all the evidence was forged. Or, they'd do what they did with the four pages of declassified intelligence released by your Intelligence services back in June 2006, and just keep all news of it out of the Left-wing controlled media ..... ANYTHING to keep their propagandist stance in place.

    Who'd like to deny the existence of the following link ? >

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/3492930/Iraq-WMD-Declassified

    .. or, declare the document a forgery ? Come on, Lefties, don't be shy, form a queue for the privilege ....

    [To the best of my knowledge, folks, the existence of that document, and any account of its findings .. WAS NEVER, ONCE, REPORTED AT ALL BY ANY MEDIA OUTLET IN EUROPE. Certainly, the British media never released news of it. I only know of it myself, thanks to my reviewing the Fox News site at the time.]

    I've seen it claimed in this thread that the war against Iraq shouldn't have been fought. Well, had it not been, US authorities would've never found what they DID find (.. or rather, 'didn't find', as some would insist was true).

    Perhaps it's better not to fight for the truth, or to ever face the consequences of that truth, if that truth isn't preferred by the Left ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    .. And where did Syria's WMD's come from, anyway ?

    All the talk (mostly from the Left) about how wrong you were to go to war against Saddam's Iraq, how it was all 'lies' that Saddam had WMD's. Well, there was talk that Saddam used a certain six month window he had to move his WMD's across to Syria.

    Now, 'all of a sudden', we learn that Syria has WMD's !! I don't know about your media, but ours is reporting claims that Syria is prepared to use WMD's, but NOT ONE WORD is said about how Assad got them.

    And naturally not. Looking into that question would be way too awkward for them.
    What's to say; they've had them a long time having. Een produced and acquired from a variety of domestic and foreign sources...Iraq is not known to have been one. It is possible, sure; just no evidence supports that theory.
    Syria, not a signatory to either the CWC or the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty (CTBT), and not having ratified the BWC, began developing chemical weapons in 1973 prior to the Yom Kipper war when the Egyptian government reportedly gave Syria artillery shells capable of delivering chemical weapons. Since then Syria has developed a robust chemical weapons program, perhaps one of the most advanced in the Middle East, and a variety of delivery methods. The country is still very depending on outside assistance in procuring important precursor chemicals and equipment.
    lots more at---->
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/syria/cw.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-Ne...4471342896037/

    Barak: Israel ready to seize Syria weapons

    Published: July 21, 2012 at 2:40 PM
    JERUSALEM, July 21 (UPI) -- The Israeli military is prepared to seize Syria's chemical weapons and missiles and to stop refugees from crossing the border, Defense Minister Ehud Barak said.

    Barak said Friday that Israel will block any move by President Bashar Assad's regime to transfer advanced weaponry to Hezbollah in Lebanon, Ynetnews reported. He said the army has been ordered to increase its monitoring of Syria's weapons stockpiles.

    If necessary, Israel would strike inside Syria, Barak said.

    Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-Ne...#ixzz21IEN5iPg

    America had better be very worried about where those weapons end up. In the wrong hands they could be used here on us as well as on Israel! Those fanatical idiots seek to destroy both big and little Satans. If Israel rushes in to secure those weapons , obama will seek to join those opposed to Israel's actions! How do I know this ? I know because obama has stated that in the end he will ALWAYS side with Islam! Look up his words on that. He currently plays a game but if given a second term he will come out strongly against Israel and possibly even directly join forces with Israel's sworn enemies. I pray we never find out how correct I am on that because if we do America will suffer so much under an obama second term that few here would ever believe it until after it happened! Too damn late is one ffing bad place to be , trust me on that even if nothing else...-Tyr
    I'm tired of being worried. Whatever kind of defense America has against this from happening will have to do. If Israel is worth a shit as an ally maybe they can deter some of this shit. If some terrorist wants us it won't matter who the president is. Hell our own people shoot us at movies.

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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