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    Default NYC mayor wants hospitals to lock up baby formula to encourage breast-feeding

    The nanny state is going after moms.Mayor Bloomberg is pushing hospitals to hide their baby formula behind locked doors so more new mothers will breast-feed.
    Starting Sept. 3, the city will keep tabs on the number of bottles that participating hospitals stock and use — the most restrictive pro-breast-milk program in the nation.

    Under the city Health Department’s voluntary Latch On NYC initiative, 27 of the city’s 40 hospitals have also agreed to give up swag bags sporting formula-company logos, toss out formula-branded tchotchkes like lanyards and mugs, and document a medical reason for every bottle that a newborn receives.
    While breast-feeding activists applaud the move, bottle-feeding moms are bristling at the latest lactation lecture.

    “If they put pressure on me, I would get annoyed,” said Lynn Sidnam, a Staten Island mother of two formula-fed girls, ages 4 months and 9 years. “It’s for me to choose.”


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz221kHj9Ya

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    I can't wait for this man to leave office. Shit, he should have been gone already, but was nice enough to have term limits extended for himself. The man makes you miss Giuliani just like Obama makes you miss Bush.
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    He looks like a tyrant too.

    I just love this line in the article...

    With each bottle a mother requests and receives, she’ll also get a talking-to.
    If these fuckers messed with me after my aversion...c-section... major spinal tap migraine... and refused to give me baby formula without a lecture attached. I would have chased them down and beat their ass...no matter how much more pain it caused me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    He looks like a tyrant too.

    I just love this line in the article...



    If these fuckers messed with me after my aversion...c-section... major spinal tap migraine... and refused to give me baby formula without a lecture attached. I would have chased them down and beat their ass...no matter how much more pain it caused me.
    Relax! I'll beat their ass for you just on principle.
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    Jim I don't know how you do it, I would not visit NYC let alone live there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    He looks like a tyrant too.

    I just love this line in the article...



    If these fuckers messed with me after my aversion...c-section... major spinal tap migraine... and refused to give me baby formula without a lecture attached. I would have chased them down and beat their ass...no matter how much more pain it caused me.
    I'll bet you received a "talking to" about the inherent benefits/risks of a c-section and spinal block/Epidural. Admittedly, I don't think each bottle need or should be accompanied with a lecture, but an explanation of the risks and benefits should be discussed beforehand--it's not as though feeding the baby after birth is an unforeseen event. Our first required days of persistence, but she took a bottle immediately. My wife and I were lucky the hospital had a lactation specialist who encouraged my wife to be patient and that our baby would latch on, that a few days wasnt abnormal, and would be perfectly healthy without milk for a couple days (especially since milk doesn't come in for few days).
    obviously situations vary and if breast feeding doesn't fit a mother and child's best interest the mother shouldn't be chastised, but I don't think that's the intention of the rule-- there is a long history of formula companies and medical providers favoring formula and foregoing the breast feeding process early on because its easier and gives the mother time to rest. But early on is when it is necessary-- not necessarily for the health of the baby, but to stimulate milk production especially. It also stimulates the autonomic healing of the mother. (uterine shrinkage, fat conversion and weight loss etc) of course, there are risks as well, and a mother should continue taking prenatal vitamins as the body will strip the mother of her own minerals and vitamins to feed the baby. Mothers are just biological awesome givers!!!
    I don't think it's a bad thing to make that giving the preferred mode of feeding.

    Kind of an aside, but all three of my kids were by c-section. I've heard that foregoing vaginal birth has been correlated to higher incidence of postpartum depression; they theorize the intensity of the birthing process causes levels of serotonin to astronomically spike and create an "addiction" to child. Yet another way mothers are awesome.
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    Mayor or nanny? WTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    I'll bet you received a "talking to" about the inherent benefits/risks of a c-section and spinal block/Epidural. Admittedly, I don't think each bottle need or should be accompanied with a lecture, but an explanation of the risks and benefits should be discussed beforehand--it's not as though feeding the baby after birth is an unforeseen event. Our first required days of persistence, but she took a bottle immediately. My wife and I were lucky the hospital had a lactation specialist who encouraged my wife to be patient and that our baby would latch on, that a few days wasnt abnormal, and would be perfectly healthy without milk for a couple days (especially since milk doesn't come in for few days).
    obviously situations vary and if breast feeding doesn't fit a mother and child's best interest the mother shouldn't be chastised, but I don't think that's the intention of the rule-- there is a long history of formula companies and medical providers favoring formula and foregoing the breast feeding process early on because its easier and gives the mother time to rest. But early on is when it is necessary-- not necessarily for the health of the baby, but to stimulate milk production especially. It also stimulates the autonomic healing of the mother. (uterine shrinkage, fat conversion and weight loss etc) of course, there are risks as well, and a mother should continue taking prenatal vitamins as the body will strip the mother of her own minerals and vitamins to feed the baby. Mothers are just biological awesome givers!!!
    I don't think it's a bad thing to make that giving the preferred mode of feeding.

    Kind of an aside, but all three of my kids were by c-section. I've heard that foregoing vaginal birth has been correlated to higher incidence of postpartum depression; they theorize the intensity of the birthing process causes levels of serotonin to astronomically spike and create an "addiction" to child. Yet another way mothers are awesome.
    I disagree. I don't want or need a lecture.
    Deliver my baby, and then wait for ME to ask YOU for any information my apparently dumb ass needs. Dear lord.

    If you really thought mothers were so "awesome" you wouldn't propose lecturing us. We would be awesome enough to figure it out, just as we always have. Mind your business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    I'll bet you received a "talking to" about the inherent benefits/risks of a c-section and spinal block/Epidural. Admittedly, I don't think each bottle need or should be accompanied with a lecture, but an explanation of the risks and benefits should be discussed beforehand--it's not as though feeding the baby after birth is an unforeseen event. Our first required days of persistence, but she took a bottle immediately. My wife and I were lucky the hospital had a lactation specialist who encouraged my wife to be patient and that our baby would latch on, that a few days wasnt abnormal, and would be perfectly healthy without milk for a couple days (especially since milk doesn't come in for few days).
    obviously situations vary and if breast feeding doesn't fit a mother and child's best interest the mother shouldn't be chastised, but I don't think that's the intention of the rule-- there is a long history of formula companies and medical providers favoring formula and foregoing the breast feeding process early on because its easier and gives the mother time to rest. But early on is when it is necessary-- not necessarily for the health of the baby, but to stimulate milk production especially. It also stimulates the autonomic healing of the mother. (uterine shrinkage, fat conversion and weight loss etc) of course, there are risks as well, and a mother should continue taking prenatal vitamins as the body will strip the mother of her own minerals and vitamins to feed the baby. Mothers are just biological awesome givers!!!
    I don't think it's a bad thing to make that giving the preferred mode of feeding.

    Kind of an aside, but all three of my kids were by c-section. I've heard that foregoing vaginal birth has been correlated to higher incidence of postpartum depression; they theorize the intensity of the birthing process causes levels of serotonin to astronomically spike and create an "addiction" to child. Yet another way mothers are awesome.
    My baby was breech...and I actually had requested a c-section right off since we knew this the whole time. Told me no... too risky...made me try an adversion...induced labor (twice) with pitocin etc..

    1 extra week of hell while they tried to coax the litte tike out...ended up with toxemia and a high fever...and guess what... ended up getting an emergency c-section anyway. So no...they don't always know what is 'best' apparently. They can keep the lectures.
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    Isn't lecturing mothers sorta risky and a waste of time ?

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Can anyone explain why Bloomberg remains such a popular figure in NYC? Does he supervise the Kool Aid that is in every resident's drinking water? That place is loonier than Los Angeles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    The nanny state is going after moms.Mayor Bloomberg is pushing hospitals to hide their baby formula behind locked doors so more new mothers will breast-feed.
    Starting Sept. 3, the city will keep tabs on the number of bottles that participating hospitals stock and use — the most restrictive pro-breast-milk program in the nation.

    Under the city Health Department’s voluntary Latch On NYC initiative, 27 of the city’s 40 hospitals have also agreed to give up swag bags sporting formula-company logos, toss out formula-branded tchotchkes like lanyards and mugs, and document a medical reason for every bottle that a newborn receives.
    While breast-feeding activists applaud the move, bottle-feeding moms are bristling at the latest lactation lecture.

    “If they put pressure on me, I would get annoyed,” said Lynn Sidnam, a Staten Island mother of two formula-fed girls, ages 4 months and 9 years. “It’s for me to choose.”
    Leftists like Bloomberg believe the the purpose of government is to control people, and to somehow "make them better" through government guidance and social engineering.

    Conservatives (if you can find any, especially in NYC) believe that the purpose of government is to protect people's rights, and nothing else. And to leave people free to better themselves, to whatever degree they can or want to.

    Is it November yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    Jim I don't know how you do it, I would not visit NYC let alone live there.
    I started this username back in the late 90's. I worked in NYC for many years and I lived in Queens. Now I live in Westchester County, north of the City, and we don't fall into the crazy regulations under Bloomberg's umbrella. But things that end up even remotely "successful" in the City then get extended to areas outlining the city next.

    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Can anyone explain why Bloomberg remains such a popular figure in NYC? Does he supervise the Kool Aid that is in every resident's drinking water? That place is loonier than Los Angeles.
    He was popular simply as "Bloomberg", for being a billionaire. NY loves rich people. Look how long we have tolerated Trump. You have the money, you control the city. I think a lot of people don't realize just how much Bloomberg is worth and how much control he has. It wouldn't surprise me if this jerk off decides to pull a 4th term out of his hat.

    I don't know about being worse than LA. Pretty similar for sure, and no offense, both filled to excess with loony liberals. The best things in total would be the Dodgers and the Yankees. I'd be happy to have 50 or so tug boats put a chain around NYC and bring 'er around to the west coast and let you all blend into one happy place! We're keeping Lady Liberty though, which is on the NJ side of the water anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    Leftists like Bloomberg believe the the purpose of government is to control people, and to somehow "make them better" through government guidance and social engineering.

    Conservatives (if you can find any, especially in NYC) believe that the purpose of government is to protect people's rights, and nothing else. And to leave people free to better themselves, to whatever degree they can or want to.

    Is it November yet?
    Kinda cute how they talk outta both sides of their face too. Why the hell should some loon lib care if I breast feed or not. Shouldn't they be off somewhere talking the masses into aborting their babies?

    Nitwits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Isn't lecturing mothers sorta risky and a waste of time ?
    Especially when they are in pain and cranky.

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