Ennahdha Founder Attacked at “Tolerance in Islam” Conference

[jimnyc]

The irony would be funny if this man wasn't assaulted and injured. This reminds me of the global warming conference that was canceled due to a snowstorm. But at least no one was attacked there.

Yesterday, Abdelfatah Mourou, a prominent Tunisian Islamist figure, was hospitalized after he was attacked by an attendee of a conference entitled, Tolerance in Islam, which he was heading in Kairouan.

The assailant struck Mourou in the head with what appeared to be a water glass following a dispute. Mourou passed out and was taken to the hospital, where he was given five stitches in the forehead.

Mourou, who is one of the founding members of Tunisia’s eminent Islamist Ennahdha party, was chairing the conference with Ridha Belhaj, the head of the ultra-conservative Hizb-ut-Tahrir party, and Youssef Seddik, a well-known Tunisian philosopher.

“Certain people intervened, and tried to force Youssef Seddik to leave. They started insulting him, claiming that he said bad things about Sayida Ai’cha – the wife of the prophet. I tried to convince those people that this is not true and that it was not Seddik who said that. I was there, and, on the contrary, Seddik tried to defend her,” Mourou explained in an interview with Tunisian radio station Shems FM

http://www.tunisia-live.net/2012/08/...am-conference/

[jimnyc]

Speaking of Tunisia, a country of over 10 million. I read an article earlier when I was on other Tunisian related sites reading about terror... They are apparently drafting a new constitution for their country, and in it, they are wording that women are "complimentary" to men. Can you imagine the outrage if someone in our government here even suggested it, let alone tried to implement it? I do see some strides here and there for Muslim women, but not nearly enough. I wonder, where did all of this emanate from? Why does Islam and so many places hold women in less regard than the men? Why can't they vote, and drive & be educated in some places?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Speaking of Tunisia, a country of over 10 million. I read an article earlier when I was on other Tunisian related sites reading about terror... They are apparently drafting a new constitution for their country, and in it, they are wording that women are "complimentary" to men. Can you imagine the outrage if someone in our government here even suggested it, let alone tried to implement it? I do see some strides here and there for Muslim women, but not nearly enough. I wonder, where did all of this emanate from? Why does Islam and so many places hold women in less regard than the men? Why can't they vote, and drive & be educated in some places?

The muslim men are insecure, inferior and brutal so naturally they need a handy target to vent their hate upon..
Camels dont do well and may kick back too hard so they went with the weaker available option=women!
Besides , they feel like such powerful heroes when abusing women..-Tyr

[aboutime]

I know some will insist such a thing does not exist. But. Reading the title made me laugh when I got to the part that said "Tolerance in Islam". That's just as funny as the tolerance Obama promised long ago. But we knew it wasn't true. So to question it is like an OXYMORON, eating itself.

[jafar00]

Why does Islam and so many places hold women in less regard than the men? Why can't they vote, and drive & be educated in some places?

Islam gave women the right to vote 1400 years ago. When did they get it in the US? 1920's?
Driving and education likewise. There are many reports from the early days before and after the Prophet (saw) died. One of his wives Aisha for example rode a camel (that's driving) and is revered as a great teacher of women.

Just because stupid laws like banning women for driving or from an education are passed in some Islamic countries doesn't mean those laws came from Sharia at all. In fact those laws would go against Sharia.

Of course, don't let me contradict such scholarly sites like religionofpeace or the blaze with their clear agendas and stuff

[jimnyc]

Islam gave women the right to vote 1400 years ago. When did they get it in the US? 1920's?
Driving and education likewise. There are many reports from the early days before and after the Prophet (saw) died. One of his wives Aisha for example rode a camel (that's driving) and is revered as a great teacher of women.

Just because stupid laws like banning women for driving or from an education are passed in some Islamic countries doesn't mean those laws came from Sharia at all. In fact those laws would go against Sharia.

Of course, don't let me contradict such scholarly sites like religionofpeace or the blaze with their clear agendas and stuff

And after all that, it doesn't change the fact that Tunisia IS in fact trying to alter their constitution to reflect women as 2nd class citizens. In quite a few countries women cannot vote and cannot drive. So as to my original comments:

Why does Islam and so many places hold women in less regard than the men? Why can't they vote, and drive & be educated in some places?

I'm not talking of every last country, but quite a few of them, and the proof has been posted. Juts because it may be different in Egypt, or Algeria, doesn't mean they don't do these things in Saudi Arabia still.

[abso]

The muslim men are insecure, inferior and brutal so naturally they need a handy target to vent their hate upon..
Camels dont do well and may kick back too hard so they went with the weaker available option=women!
Besides , they feel like such powerful heroes when abusing women..-Tyr

i am a Muslim man, you think what you just said applies to me ?

[jimnyc]

i am a Muslim man, you think what you just said applies to me ?

From the length of time I've known you and from all of the posts you have made, I would say no. But all members are different and sometimes new members here won't have that level of trust and belief that takes time to develop.

[hjmick]

I think someone is trying a little too hard...

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

i am a Muslim man, you think what you just said applies to me ?

I surely do not know because I do not know you. You may be one of the honorable ones for all I know. Those that reject the hate and embrace the good. I first thought Jafar was such a man but his posts reveals that he excuses too much of the hate and murder that radical Islamists engage in.-Tyr

[abso]

From the length of time I've known you and from all of the posts you have made, I would say no. But all members are different and sometimes new members here won't have that level of trust and belief that takes time to develop.

thanks for your trust Jim , i know you don't think that i am like that, i was just asking Tyr-Ziu Saxnot, you already know me Jim, you know that i don't like when people judge others who they have never met and when they say things that even kids won't say, i think that is a silly way to debate or to discuss anything, and silly posts irritate me .

about the time needed for trust, i agree with you, but if Tyr-Ziu Saxnot needs time to trust each muslim in the world to correct his idea about him, then he would never have enough time in his life to do that, he should just stick with the people he knows and never to judge someone he have never met or talked to, am i right ?

and about (silly), that is not an insult, that is freedom of speech

[abso]

I surely do not know because I do not know you. You may be one of the honorable ones for all I know. Those that reject the hate and embrace the good. I first thought Jafar was such a man but his posts reveals that he excuses too much of the hate and murder that radical Islamists engage in.-Tyr

so you don't know me, but i remember you saying "All Muslim Men", am i right ?, have you known all Muslim men to make such an opinion about them ?

but its a good start that you said that you don't know what i am, because you don't know me, thanks for that ....

[Voted4Reagan]

Islam gave women the right to vote 1400 years ago. When did they get it in the US? 1920's?
Driving and education likewise.

BullShit.... If they had it it was quickly taken away...

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...irst-time.html

Guess You were off by 1399 years

[jafar00]

BullShit.... If they had it it was quickly taken away...

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...irst-time.html

Guess You were off by 1399 years

Saudi Arabia is a wahhabi country. They left mainstream Islam behind years ago.
And the article above did specify that it is the first time in "modern" history.

[jimnyc]

Jafar, you know a lot about Egypt. When did the women there get equal rights to men?