Great outdoorsman the real Crocodile Dundee killed by police

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...t-1110770.html

A RUGGED Australian rancher whose feats of survival in the Outback inspired the movie character Crocodile Dundee was killed in a shootout, policesaid yesterday.
From his hiding place in the bushes along a highway, Rodney William Ansell, 44, ambushed and killed Sergeant Glen Huitson. Another officer returned fire, killing Ansell, 30 miles south of the Northern Territory capital of Darwin. His barefoot body was found with two high-powered rifles.

Officers had spent the previous 12 hours searching for a man who had attacked a nearby house on Monday, injuring two people. Assistant police commissioner John Daulby said it was thought Ansell was responsible for that attack too.

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CROCODILE DUNDEE KILLED BY GUN-CONFISCATING POLICE

Posted By: Esclarmonde <mailto:iamliberty@sultanofbrunei.com?subject=CROC ODILE DUNDEE KILLED BY GUN-CONFISCATING POLICE>
Date: Saturday, 4 November 2000, 2:07 p.m.

The following article is purportedly from the November 2000 edition of The Firing Line. It was handed to me by a retired policeman and member of the California Rifle and Pistol Association. In light of what is happening in Arizona and reported elsewhere on RMN, this story takes on a "critical mass" kind of perspective.
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CROCODILE DUNDEE KILLED BY GUN-CONFISCATING POLICE

I am unashamed to tell you I am weeping as I write this story.
Last August, Rodney William Ansell, the rugged Aussie whose real life exploits inspired the Crocodile Dundee movies, died in a shootout with Australian police who had come (to confiscate his unregistered firearms. Oh, you didn't read about it in our ‘free’ press? That's cause it never appeared.

A police sergeant was also killed in the incident; the number of "peace officers" injured while invading old 'Croc' in his natural domain is unknown, but likely he took down several. I don't mean to imply glee over the death and possible additional injuries; after all, they were "just doing their job" like the obedient Nazi's tried at Nuremburg.

Ansell had been named 1988 Australian Man of the Year for inspiring the movie and putting Australia on the Tourism Map." of particular interest to us here in the tourism dependent desert, Ansell was probably responsible for hundreds of millions of increased tourism dollars flowing into his beloved country. This is how his country repaid him. Because you see, in today's world, no good deed goes unpunished and no bad deed un-rewarded. After all, Janet Reno was the laughingstock of DA's nation-wide for her inept to outright unlawful per-formance in Florida. She is now "our-Attorney General (in addition to Fidel Castro's).

See the difference in the two stories about how the reaL CROCODILE DUNDEE died?
Which one do you believe? I believe the one I read about on another site but forgot to bookmark. The one that stated he refused to give up his guns and fought it out with the police over their gun cinfiscation! . The man was right nobody has the right to disarm a law abiding citizen. Let them confiscate every single gun from every single criminal then we can talk about, thinking about , maybe pondering about, if we will even consider foolishly stupidly given up ours! They can not even disarm criminals so why should we foolishly volunteer to be unarmed victims!???-Tyr

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...t-1110770.html

A RUGGED Australian rancher whose feats of survival in the Outback inspired the movie character Crocodile Dundee was killed in a shootout, policesaid yesterday.
From his hiding place in the bushes along a highway, Rodney William Ansell, 44, ambushed and killed Sergeant Glen Huitson. Another officer returned fire, killing Ansell, 30 miles south of the Northern Territory capital of Darwin. His barefoot body was found with two high-powered rifles.

Officers had spent the previous 12 hours searching for a man who had attacked a nearby house on Monday, injuring two people. Assistant police commissioner John Daulby said it was thought Ansell was responsible for that attack too.

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CROCODILE DUNDEE KILLED BY GUN-CONFISCATING POLICE

Posted By: Esclarmonde <mailto:iamliberty@sultanofbrunei.com?subject=CROC ODILE DUNDEE KILLED BY GUN-CONFISCATING POLICE>
Date: Saturday, 4 November 2000, 2:07 p.m.

The following article is purportedly from the November 2000 edition of The Firing Line. It was handed to me by a retired policeman and member of the California Rifle and Pistol Association. In light of what is happening in Arizona and reported elsewhere on RMN, this story takes on a "critical mass" kind of perspective.
-----------------Begin Article---------------------
CROCODILE DUNDEE KILLED BY GUN-CONFISCATING POLICE

I am unashamed to tell you I am weeping as I write this story.
Last August, Rodney William Ansell, the rugged Aussie whose real life exploits inspired the Crocodile Dundee movies, died in a shootout with Australian police who had come (to confiscate his unregistered firearms. Oh, you didn't read about it in our ‘free’ press? That's cause it never appeared.

A police sergeant was also killed in the incident; the number of "peace officers" injured while invading old 'Croc' in his natural domain is unknown, but likely he took down several. I don't mean to imply glee over the death and possible additional injuries; after all, they were "just doing their job" like the obedient Nazi's tried at Nuremburg.

Ansell had been named 1988 Australian Man of the Year for inspiring the movie and putting Australia on the Tourism Map." of particular interest to us here in the tourism dependent desert, Ansell was probably responsible for hundreds of millions of increased tourism dollars flowing into his beloved country. This is how his country repaid him. Because you see, in today's world, no good deed goes unpunished and no bad deed un-rewarded. After all, Janet Reno was the laughingstock of DA's nation-wide for her inept to outright unlawful per-formance in Florida. She is now "our-Attorney General (in addition to Fidel Castro's).

See the difference in the two stories about how the reaL CROCODILE DUNDEE died?
Which one do you believe? I believe the one I read about on another site but forgot to bookmark. The one that stated he refused to give up his guns and fought it out with the police over their gun cinfiscation! . The man was right nobody has the right to disarm a law abiding citizen. Let them confiscate every single gun from every single criminal then we can talk about, thinking about , maybe pondering about, if we will even consider foolishly stupidly given up ours! They can not even disarm criminals so why should we foolishly volunteer to be unarmed victims!???-Tyr

Here is the link to the second story.^^^^^^
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...ile_dundee.htm

[taft2012]

He chose to shoot it out with the police instead of quietly surrendering the arms and civilly arguing his case in court.

He *KILLED* a police sergeant, who might have had a wife and children. A police sergeant who was following the law of the land.... I don't know if Australia has any such 2nd Amendment rights,

but irregardless, this POS chose to *KILL* a law enforcement officer, who the POS commentator compares to a Nazi at Nuremberg.

Sorry, but I'm glad he's dead and hope he's been assigned a particularly hot spot in hell.

[Voted4Reagan]

try to take my Guns....I'll take out more then one of them.....I promise you that!

[taft2012]

I appreciate the message of the Tea Party as much as anyone, but one important distinction between the Tea Party of the 18th century and today's Tea Party is critical to remember:

THESE ARE NOT LAWS BEING ENACTED BY A FOREIGN POTENTATE AND ENFORCED AT BAYONET POINT BY TROOPS SHIPPED ACROSS THE OCEAN TO OPPRESS US.

These are our laws, being passed by our duly elected representatives, Constitutionally representing our will. These laws are being enforced by our neighbors, not redcoats. Our failure to achieve desired results at the ballot box does not open the door to fire upon our neighbors.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

He chose to shoot it out with the police instead of quietly surrendering the arms and civilly arguing his case in court.

He *KILLED* a police sergeant, who might have had a wife and children. A police sergeant who was following the law of the land.... I don't know if Australia has any such 2nd Amendment rights,

but irregardless, this POS chose to *KILL* a law enforcement officer, who the POS commentator compares to a Nazi at Nuremberg.

Sorry, but I'm glad he's dead and hope he's been assigned a particularly hot spot in hell.

Gun confiscation will likely cause many deaths if its tried here. A damn shame that it lead to the police officer getting killed there. Likely the cover story put out for general consumption there didn't tell the entire story of it being about gun confiscation , instead they tried to make it about an ambush he supposedly set up using two high powered rifles. If thats true , how did the ambushed police kill him so quickly after he shot the first one. Its not like he was an amateur and not a fine shot. Give me a high powered rifle and I could if ambushing anybody easily do away with more than one before the other reacted get him too. Something stinks about this cover story! Ansell died too and its too bad anybody has to die because nobody has the right to disarm a law abiding citizen by confiscating his guns law or no law! F-that! Here its absolutely Unconstitutional and will be fought regardless of who tries to enforce it! Our founders understood that and specificly made sure we as citizens were not to be disarmed! Police officers and military had better understand that and refuse to enforce such an Unconstitutional order if given it. If they aid those trying to usurp our Constitution they will have to face the consequences, just that simple. I am all for Law and Order but not for tyranny and unlawful usurping of our Constitution and God given rights! F- anybody that tries that crap!-Tyr

[CSM]

I appreciate the message of the Tea Party as much as anyone, but one important distinction between the Tea Party of the 18th century and today's Tea Party is critical to remember:

THESE ARE NOT LAWS BEING ENACTED BY A FOREIGN POTENTATE AND ENFORCED AT BAYONET POINT BY TROOPS SHIPPED ACROSS THE OCEAN TO OPPRESS US.

These are our laws, being passed by our duly elected representatives, Constitutionally representing our will. These laws are being enforced by our neighbors, not redcoats. Our failure to achieve desired results at the ballot box does not open the door to fire upon our neighbors.

I would agree with you EXCEPT that in current times, our elected representatives have chosen to ignore the Constitution (never mind "the will of the people"), are more concerned with the accumulation and sustainment of power and are aggressively pursuing the elimination of individual rights. At what point then, do the citizens of this nation actively rebel, knowing that the ballot box is no longer effective and, we, as a nation, have degenerated into a country ruled by the "elite nobility". No longer is America ruled by fellow countrymen who have the best interest of the people and this nation of primary concern. Heck, one cannot even run for office unless one is wealthy because of the system put in place by the very despots who rule; aided and abetted by the media, the unions and socialists of all stripes. It is my opinion that this nation is in decline and said decline will only accelerate as we continue down the current path.

Our founding fathers believed that NO government is sacrosanct just because it is the government (duly elected or not) but that is exactly the philosophy now ingrained by many. This indoctrination has largely been fostered because of social programs which make the people dependent on that government. Unless that changes, unless you are one of the "elite nobility" then you are doomed to be a peasant entirely beholden to the ruling class.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I appreciate the message of the Tea Party as much as anyone, but one important distinction between the Tea Party of the 18th century and today's Tea Party is critical to remember:

THESE ARE NOT LAWS BEING ENACTED BY A FOREIGN POTENTATE AND ENFORCED AT BAYONET POINT BY TROOPS SHIPPED ACROSS THE OCEAN TO OPPRESS US.

These are our laws, being passed by our duly elected representatives, Constitutionally representing our will. These laws are being enforced by our neighbors, not redcoats. Our failure to achieve desired results at the ballot box does not open the door to fire upon our neighbors.

Our 2nd amendment can not be simply outlawed like that. Even were it actually REPEALED the principle still stands as valid as it ever was . It boils down to either we make a stand on our rights or let em be chipped away until we basicly have none IMHO. Disarmimg law abiding honest citizens point to a tyrannical government that needs to be replaced by any means that it forces to be used.--Tyr

[taft2012]

try to take my Guns....I'll take out more then one of them.....I promise you that!

If I thought for a second you actually had the balls (which I know you don't), or even the guns (which you probably don't) I'd call you a "cop killing piece of shit."

But why bother shouting at the wind?

[taft2012]

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[taft2012]

I would agree with you EXCEPT that in current times, our elected representatives have chosen to ignore the Constitution (never mind "the will of the people"), are more concerned with the accumulation and sustainment of power and are aggressively pursuing the elimination of individual rights.

That's fine.

But what sense does it make to wait until one of your neighbors shows up wearing a blue uniform, doing his job enforcing the law, and shooting *HIM*? ... all while the real culprits in your scenario are safely somewhere else enjoying the fruits of their Constitutional abuses?

If this is really how you feel, I suggest you pre-empt the above scenario and go shoot yourself a few politicians or judges. You don't have to wait for anyone to show up, there's nothing holding you back...

I'm joking of course, because I know internet balls when I see them.

So let's stop the fuckin' "I'm gonna kill me a cop" bullshit talk because somewhere, some lone crackpot reads this shit and isn't smart enough to realize it's a bunch of internet bullshit talking points, and some fine police officer somewhere may have to make the ultimate sacrifice for silly internet bloviating.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I would agree with you EXCEPT that in current times, our elected representatives have chosen to ignore the Constitution (never mind "the will of the people"), are more concerned with the accumulation and sustainment of power and are aggressively pursuing the elimination of individual rights. At what point then, do the citizens of this nation actively rebel, knowing that the ballot box is no longer effective and, we, as a nation, have degenerated into a country ruled by the "elite nobility". No longer is America ruled by fellow countrymen who have the best interest of the people and this nation of primary concern. Heck, one cannot even run for office unless one is wealthy because of the system put in place by the very despots who rule; aided and abetted by the media, the unions and socialists of all stripes. It is my opinion that this nation is in decline and said decline will only accelerate as we continue down the current path.

Our founding fathers believed that NO government is sacrosanct just because it is the government (duly elected or not) but that is exactly the philosophy now ingrained by many. This indoctrination has largely been fostered because of social programs which make the people dependent on that government. Unless that changes, unless you are one of the "elite nobility" then you are doomed to be a peasant entirely beholden to the ruling class.

Great post, I agree 100%.
Our founding fathers were indeed very, very wise men. No current government has the authority to usurp our Constitution or else we as a people ,as a nation , would have no security at all! Our Bill of Rights has been and currently is under heavy attack by a government hellbent on stripping us of our rights. This points to only one thing--Tyranny ! Jefferson had many brilliant words on what to do about such tyranny! I believe I'll side with Jefferson over any of the powermad ,sold out, corrupted politicians and government leeches of today's world! Its called standing on principle. A shame that so many Americans today never heard of that! Sold out and bleating for destruction is no way to go through life IMHO.-Tyr

[taft2012]

... and for the record, anyone who poses a threat to my life or the lives of any officers working with me with deadly physical force, during the course of us acting duly and doing our legal duties, shouldn't be surprised if they're rewarded with a consolation prize of an eternal plot of real estate like the gentleman won outside the Empire State Building yesterday.l

[taft2012]

Here is a simple question for gun owners: how many of you gun owners own licensed firearms?

If owning a firearm is a right it shouldn't be licensed then, should it? I mean, you don't have a license to come onto debatepolicy.com and use your freedom of speech, do you? Your pastor doesn't have a license to preach religion, does he? You don't need a license to go to church every Sunday, do you? The New York Times doesn't need a license to print a newspaper everyday, does it?

So if you're all truly the cop-killing desperadoes you claim to be, why do you acquiesce to this government intrusion upon your rights and allow your firearms/handguns to be registered and licensed? When you buy a gun, shouldn't you shoot the guy who hands you the registration/license form? Why wait until a cop shows up to arrest you for not having the firearm licensed/registered?

If you were a Catholic would you allow the government to account for every Communion wafer you've received? Would you sign a receipt for every newspaper you purchase for entry into a government database?

Right now the government is forcing the Catholic Church to violate its own sacred doctrines, and its barely causing a ripple in the public discourse. But merely mention the 2nd Amendment and people start frothing at the mouth that they're going to shoot their friends and neighbors.

Help me out here, what is it about the 2nd Amendment that drives otherwise normal people to the brink of insanity?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

http://catb.org/~esr/guns/quotes.html

Quotes on Firearms Rights
Here are some of my favorite quotes on the right to bear arms.

When only cops have guns, it's called a "police state".

Love your country, but never trust its government.

-- Robert A. Heinlein.


-- Chief Justice John Marshall, 1819.
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action, according to our will, within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others."

-- Thomas Jefferson
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"

-- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good"

-- George Washington
"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."




"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759.
"Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficient... The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding."

-- Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Tolerance in the face of tyranny is no virtue."

-- Barry Goldwater
"I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical."

-- Thomas Jefferson, Letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787
The people of the various provinces are strictly forbidden to have in their possession any swords, short swords, bows, spears, firearms, or other types of arms. The possession of unnecessary implements makes difficult the collection of taxes and dues and tends to foment uprisings.

-- Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Shogun, August 1588
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it."

-- Abraham Lincoln, 4 April 1861
"One of the ordinary modes, by which tyrants accomplish their purposes without resistance, is, by disarming the people, and making it an offense to keep arms."

-- Constitutional scholar Joseph Story, 1840
"The bearing of arms is the essential medium through which the individual asserts both his social power and his participation in politics as a responsible moral being..."

-- J.G.A. Pocock, describing the beliefs of the founders of the U.S.
Men trained in arms from their infancy, and animated by the love of liberty, will afford neither a cheap or easy conquest.

-- From the Declaration of the Continental Congress, July 1775.
"As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives [only] moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion to your walks."

-- Thomas Jefferson, writing to his teenaged nephew.
No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.