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    Americans REALLY need to outta this mind set that we can stop terrorism by fighting like we did in WWII. Forget it folks. Accept the fact the even America who spends billions of defense is vulnerable to isolated yet devestating acts of terrorism. Dropping nukes on the homes of suspected bomb makers ain't gonna cut it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Americans REALLY need to outta this mind set that we can stop terrorism by fighting like we did in WWII. Forget it folks. Accept the fact the even America who spends billions of defense is vulnerable to isolated yet devestating acts of terrorism. Dropping nukes on the homes of suspected bomb makers ain't gonna cut it.
    Nobody has suggested using nukes on small , scatterred targets . Stop being ridiculous.
    However dropping nukes on Mecca and Medina would cut it . In fact , a real threat to do that would have huge impact in starting Islam to clean its own house of the radical murderers that are now rampaging around the globe.This excuse of not being "able" to confront their own is pure bullshit, its not being "willing" to confront their own instead. A strong motivation to make them more willing is called for and just making a valid threat to obliterate their two holy cities would do the trick.
    Your suggestion and stand seems to be to just ignore them . Thats how farmer Jones lost his leg and then his life to gangrene amigo by ignoring the problem. Some things only get worse when hiding ones head in the sand. I call for decisive and agressive action , you call for inaction and appeasement. One of us is dead wrong!-Tyr
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    ^ explain to me how destroying Islamic holy cities is any different than Iranian leadership calling for the destruction of Israel?
    He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.AeschylusRead more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...zeMUwcpY1Io.99

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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    ^ explain to me how destroying Islamic holy cities is any different than Iranian leadership calling for the destruction of Israel?
    It is a disincentive to perpetrate terrorist attacks on the US. Israel has been the recipient, not the perpetrator of attacks targeted to civilians. There's no reason to "get used to" the TSA and the "Patriot Act".
    Last edited by tailfins; 09-11-2012 at 03:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    ^ explain to me how destroying Islamic holy cities is any different than Iranian leadership calling for the destruction of Israel?
    No difference. Saudi Arabia would demand a retraction were Tyr a signifcant figure in the US. They would also be perfectly justified to ramp up their missle defense systems and be downright uncooperative with us on anything.You can't scare fanatics or suicidal maniacs. They've lost battles before and didn't whine about Allah being weak and forgetting them bla bla bla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    No difference. Saudi Arabia would demand a retraction were Tyr a signifcant figure in the US. They would also be perfectly justified to ramp up their missle defense systems and be downright uncooperative with us on anything.You can't scare fanatics or suicidal maniacs. They've lost battles before and didn't whine about Allah being weak and forgetting them bla bla bla.
    It seems destroying their "holy cities" would slow them down considerably. It's time for US society to stop living under the shadow of the terrorist threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    ^ explain to me how destroying Islamic holy cities is any different than Iranian leadership calling for the destruction of Israel?
    No difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    It is a disincentive to perpetrate terrorist attacks on the US. Israel has been the recipient, not the perpetrator of attacks targeted to civilians. There's no reason to "get used to" the TSA and the "Patriot Act".
    Excuse me? There is a huge list of civilian massacres and decades of human tragedy, suffering and tyranny all from Israel. Wake up!

    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    It seems destroying their "holy cities" would slow them down considerably. It's time for US society to stop living under the shadow of the terrorist threat.
    Terrorists don't have holy cities. All you would do is create 1.5 billion new enemies. Myself included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    It seems destroying their "holy cities" would slow them down considerably. It's time for US society to stop living under the shadow of the terrorist threat.
    How is that? Do they keep their their camels in there ? Even in the middle of WWII armies knew to avoid destoying sites that would enrage the enemy's citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    How is that? Do they keep their their camels in there ? Even in the middle of WWII armies knew to avoid destoying sites that would enrage the enemy's citizens.
    ^^^ Dresen Germany, Hiroshima, Nagasaki any of that ring bell!!??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    ^^^ Dresen Germany, Hiroshima, Nagasaki any of that ring bell!!??
    Those are cities not sites. None of them were considered sacred. You lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    ^ explain to me how destroying Islamic holy cities is any different than Iranian leadership calling for the destruction of Israel?
    The fact that you need an explaination says so much. They will not want to take that risk. A real threat that they believe could happen will force change in their world domination policy. Will force them to stop encouraging and demanding Jihad against the Western world.-Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    ^^^ Dresen Germany, Hiroshima, Nagasaki any of that ring bell!!??
    Tyr, destroying Mecca and Medina would increase the threat against you so much that no matter how many billions you spend on your great army, you would never be safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Those are cities not sites. None of them were considered sacred. You lose.
    Life is sacred pedro. Lost city = massive loss of life . Only with Islam its very different as those two cities are considered the holiest of holies. With muslims its the actual site that is holy. Nuke it melt it, a big no no, will destroy their faith in Allah. They will make changes to avoid facing that possibility. When a nuke melts those holy sites it will show that Allah has no power over infidels. You get it but want to pretend you dont because you think it a bad plan. I think simply the treat yeilds results if they elieve it wil be done.-Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by jafar00 View Post
    Tyr, destroying Mecca and Medina would increase the threat against you so much that no matter how many billions you spend on your great army, you would never be safe.
    Myself, Im prepared to die for my family, my country. But it'll be after a damn hard fight. I aint no snowflake hoss!
    I got Injun and Viking blood in me ! Cowardly bastards that murder helpless women and children would fall to me like blades of grass to a sharp blade. No brag just a damn fact.. You dont know me.-Tyr
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    You might be ready to die but there are a lot of people in the world who aren't. Show some sanity, respect other people and quit acting like a drunk cowboy.

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