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    Default Sharia law: A threat to our Constitution, yes or no?

    http://www.valleyfamilyforum.org/ind...stitution.html

    Shariah Law: A Threat to the U.S. Constitution

    One need look no further than Saudi Arabia's well-documented, appalling record of human right abuses and their oppression of women, to see that Sharia Law directly opposes the principles and ideals stated in the United States Constitution: Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness.

    Sharia Law strips the people of the right to elect their own leaders, installing a select group of religious leaders who reign supreme over all. This select ruling group appoints, establishes, and controls the network of judges; makes all laws; defines harsh punishments for every infraction; and enforces its will through the use of "religious police".

    Specifically, Sharia Law in any capacity violates the First Amendment to the Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...". Moreover, it violently stifles any opposition, whether that be in speech, in the press, or public demonstration. Under Sharia Law, there is no such thing as petitioning the government for "redress of grievances"(First Amendment to the Constitution). To do so would be suicide.
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    Sharia law stands in direct opposition to our Constitution yet muslims recently gathered in Charlotte NC to protest recent anti-Sharia laws being passed here in America! As if we MUST allow destruction of our Constitution by this religious insanity! Who are these vermin that think that their insane garbage should be allowed to destroy our lives, our culture and our nation!!?? Folks, wake up soon or you may just wake up with your head on a muslim chopping block!-Tyr
    18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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    Our country doesn't practice Sharia law. Nor do we accept it.
    So how does it threaten our constitution?

    Your extreme right wing blogger is grasping at straws (again).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Our country doesn't practice Sharia law. Nor do we accept it.
    So how does it threaten our constitution?

    Your extreme right wing blogger is grasping at straws (again).
    I think it's clear actually. Many, many Muslims feel that they should be able to resolve disputes based on their own laws instead of the laws of the country they reside in. If you haven't seen the tons of stories, then you are out of touch and naive. Do I think they'll be successful in altering our COTUS in favor of Shariah? Nope. But there are already instances of Muslims handling matters themselves, based on Islamic law, and avoiding our courts. They need to understand, that if they live on our soil, they need to adhere to our laws.

    If they had their way, they would have large areas (like Indian reservations) and have their own societies and legal systems. Not gonna happen, but that doesn't mean that they won't try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    I think it's clear actually. Many, many Muslims feel that they should be able to resolve disputes based on their own laws instead of the laws of the country they reside in. If you haven't seen the tons of stories, then you are out of touch and naive. Do I think they'll be successful in altering our COTUS in favor of Shariah? Nope. But there are already instances of Muslims handling matters themselves, based on Islamic law, and avoiding our courts. They need to understand, that if they live on our soil, they need to adhere to our laws.

    If they had their way, they would have large areas (like Indian reservations) and have their own societies and legal systems. Not gonna happen, but that doesn't mean that they won't try.
    In the interest of full disclosure, this has been going on for years in Hasidic Jewish communities in Brooklyn. Pedophile rabbis manage to evade the criminal justice system in this manner.

    It is not officially endorsed by elected officials, but the Kings County District Attorneys Office does an awful lot of winking and nodding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    I think it's clear actually. Many, many Muslims feel that they should be able to resolve disputes based on their own laws instead of the laws of the country they reside in. If you haven't seen the tons of stories, then you are out of touch and naive. Do I think they'll be successful in altering our COTUS in favor of Shariah? Nope. But there are already instances of Muslims handling matters themselves, based on Islamic law, and avoiding our courts. They need to understand, that if they live on our soil, they need to adhere to our laws.

    If they had their way, they would have large areas (like Indian reservations) and have their own societies and legal systems. Not gonna happen, but that doesn't mean that they won't try.
    Absolutely thats what they want. They can want in one hand amd shit in the other. Sharia law is in direct opposition to the cotus and so will never happen. Ergo no threat

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Absolutely thats what they want. They can want in one hand amd shit in the other. Sharia law is in direct opposition to the cotus and so will never happen. Ergo no threat
    Never say never... Sure thing , no threat. Just like Islam wasn't a "real" threat until they knocked down the twin towers and murdered over 3,000 Americans. A religion totally dedicated to destroying by any means all that oppose it isn't a threat?? right...

    Just like all this is fantasy and lies , right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Absolutely thats what they want. They can want in one hand amd shit in the other. Sharia law is in direct opposition to the cotus and so will never happen. Ergo no threat
    While I admire your total confidence that bad things will never happen, I do not share it. I am sure we can all think of things happening in this country today that we would have said 20 years ago would never happen. And so it goes. As long as we have a Marshall court review of our laws, almost anything is possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    While I admire your total confidence that bad things will never happen, I do not share it. I am sure we can all think of things happening in this country today that we would have said 20 years ago would never happen. And so it goes. As long as we have a Marshall court review of our laws, almost anything is possible.
    Right you are Abbey. Radical change is in the air and obama is the greatest culprit in that.
    I find it simply amazing today that anybody can simply declare that there is --no threat-- as if denial is reality!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    While I admire your total confidence that bad things will never happen, I do not share it. I am sure we can all think of things happening in this country today that we would have said 20 years ago would never happen. And so it goes. As long as we have a Marshall court review of our laws, almost anything is possible.
    Things are always changing Abbey. But change is one thing. Outright throwing the COTUS away is another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Our country doesn't practice Sharia law. Nor do we accept it.
    So how does it threaten our constitution?

    Your extreme right wing blogger is grasping at straws (again).
    Gabby I never thought the Federal government would take over private companies, ignore set Bankruptcy laws, force citizens to buy a product/service under the threat of fines and jail

    So do not dismiss this so easily


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    We already have cases of American liberal judges consulting Sharia law to render verdicts. Also those same azzhat judges consulting foreign laws to render verdicts when the oath that they swore was based upon Constitutional considerations as the foundation to be considered when the Rule of Law is not so easily settled in a case.
    Now we have muslims active in politics demanding that Sharia Law be allowed here! With leftists/libs joining in to cater to them! This was exactly how it started in Britain and looked how FUBAR that place has become! Dont be so quick to claim that it can not happen here! It can and will if we do not vigorously and absolutely oppose it!-Tyr
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    It's only a threat to our constitution if those obligated to defend it ignore the threat. Then impeachment would be in order.

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    It's only a threat to our constitution if those obligated to defend it ignore the threat. Then impeachment would be in order.
    I agree with that. But how much is over the line? What if they use Shariah line of thinking but American law to render a verdict? For example, a judge saying "I can see based on Shariah law, how this type of action can be so insulting" and then renders a guilty verdict on a charge of harassment. And if no Muslim in the case, and it's just one guy insulting another guy, it most likely wouldn't rise to the level of a criminal offense. Of course they are made up scenarios. But what about a judge even taking other law into account when coming up with verdicts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Our country doesn't practice Sharia law. Nor do we accept it.
    So how does it threaten our constitution?

    Your extreme right wing blogger is grasping at straws (again).
    Simple: Set it up as binding arbitration using an arbitrator that adheres to Sharia law. I hope I'm not giving anybody ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    Simple: Set it up as binding arbitration using an arbitrator that adheres to Sharia law. I hope I'm not giving anybody ideas.
    Two consenting adults already have ideas and an arbitrator cannot come up with a settlement that is against CONUS anyway.

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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