Do you understand what the New Testament is at all? Or are you pretending this misunderstanding?
The New Testament in the bible teaches love your enemies and live your life as did Jesus. Jesus killed nobody and made war on nobody, he healed the sick and gave of himself. He gave his life to redeem us of our sins, he did not condone stoning , beheading or harming anybody.-Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Show me where I said you said that..I can wait. I Could quote you saying all of Islam is the problem, that they threaten our very way life at home and abroad, that there's no peacful solution to the problem, That they're vermin, along with calls to use weapons of mass destruction against their holy sites...it doesn't take a historian to see the patterned logic of genocide Tyr. Besides, Obama didn't say anything about wanting a "Gestapo", Maine governor Paul Lepage said that of the IRS...but don't let factual accuracy abridge your prejudice and hate.
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.AeschylusRead more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...zeMUwcpY1Io.99
Do I get from this that you'd sum up Jesus as follows:-
'Hello, I'm Jesus. Thought you'd like to know that I'm here for no particular reason, everything's peachy, I'm just here for a bit of a visit, don't mind me, I've nothing to say, oh, and by the way, who fancies some spare fish ?'
It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!
I do believe you are the first true contrarian I've met that never gets tired of pretending to have not understood a single word of the replies given back. The subject of this thread is not the bible. Its Islam, Sharia law and our nation's survival. Want to discuss the bible new and old testament start a thread amigo. Otherwise I suggest you cite what you disagree with in my original post the subject of this thread or Drummund's brilliant presentation that is more than worthy of being debated. Perhaps you agree or disagree with posts made here by others. Go for it . Im done here with this bible discussion.-Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
ok here.
Short term memory loss a real biatch eh? You brought up (rounding them up) not me , then you say that I'd like that ..Originally Posted by logroller
Oh but if he gets a Gestapo, think of how much easier it will to round up all the Muslims.-- you'd like thatOK, SHOW ME ANY QUOTE IN WHICH I INDICATED THAT ROUNDING THEM UP WAS A PLAN. I CAN WAIT.--Tyr
What does that mean exactly? So I asked for you show me where I ever indicated that they should be rounded up. You have not. fail, thanks for playing..-Tyr
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18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
I'm with Tyr. This thread, Dilloduck, is meant to consider Islam and what follows from it, not become some increasingly convoluted Christian Bible study.
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It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!
You advocate violence...not very Christian of you. But you make a good point; as we're a christian nation, why don't we let the old testament followers and quranic followers settle their own disputes in their own manner abroad. I thought manifest destiny was over; why if we are beacon of freedom and good will do we police the world and sell arms to nations prone to violence? It's made us wealthier, but not safer or more free. If our politics violate our Christian beliefs, perhaps we need to reevaluate our policy?
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.AeschylusRead more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...zeMUwcpY1Io.99
This was very insightful information and very helpful indeed in revealing what has been done to Britain. A tragic situation over there where they had to establish a defence league, English Defence League its called right, to try to protect their way of life from being destroyed by the islamists!? Question is, is it too little too late?-TyrFrom my own experience in the UK, it seems perfectly obvious that Islamists have three distinct ways of operating in order to achieve a form of dominance in a Society.
The first is through terrorism .. and not much needs to be said on that score. 9/11, the UK's '7/7' attack in London, the attack at the Atosha station in Spain .. and many more attacks besides, in various parts of the world. Through murder and mayhem, they hope that through acts of terrorism, the will to fight back can be sapped .. and, I'm sorry to say, this sometimes is successful.
The second, pivotal, means (aided and abetted by the Left) is through social incursion. Immigrants arrive, equipped with their cultural and religious identities, they take root in specific areas, form their own communities, all of which pushes out what was in the area they occupy beforehand. Demands are made, all of which serve the requirements of the invading Islamic culture and traditions. Integration is a non-starter ... always, those communities expect OTHERS to bend to THEM.
The third is through exploitation of indigenous freedoms. Demands are made to insist that concession after concession is made to them. Pressure groups form, and always citing either the race card, or the 'bigotry' card, they insist that anyone opposing them must be doing so through unacceptably antisocial means. This is particularly where the Left comes in ... Left-wingers insist that to speak out against them is evidence of racism or bigotry, and pressure groups invariably win out. Laws are passed, such as 'hatespeech' legislation, making strong criticism actionable in law. But more, the indigenous population becomes conditioned to revile anyone not conforming to these socially-conditioned imperatives.
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.