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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Which brings us back to barbera boxer and when life gains the protection of the constitution.
    Not until the infant arrives home from the hospital.
    Her exact words.
    The liberal belief!
    The liberal forces of abortion believe they may legally take and kill infants in hospital or on route home from hospital with the protection of the law.
    The nurses in the Kennedy incident intended to kill Bo Kennedy, I have no doubt in my mind that this was their intent.

    I know that when our second child is born in may, I will be ready to defend his or her life!
    As I am now with my 9 month old, my 24 year old and my 22 year old!
    I am prepared to defend my family from all threats, any attacker will be seen as a murderous threat and will be neutralused!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Which brings us back to barbera boxer and when life gains the protection of the constitution.
    Not until the infant arrives home from the hospital.
    Her exact words.
    The liberal belief!
    The liberal forces of abortion believe they may legally take and kill infants in hospital or on route home from hospital with the protection of the law.
    The nurses in the Kennedy incident intended to kill Bo Kennedy, I have no doubt in my mind that this was their intent.

    I know that when our second child is born in may, I will be ready to defend his or her life!
    As I am now with my 9 month old, my 24 year old and my 22 year old!
    I am prepared to defend my family from all threats, any attacker will be seen as a murderous threat and will be neutralused!
    Now that there folks is the reclusive "INTERNET TOUGH GUY". See how he postures for no reason at all when caught in the cross hairs..

    So you were there?? saw everything?? to quote Abouttime!!!

    By the way you left out this little tidbit right here. The REASON he fell was the dumbass was kicking a woman!!!!!!!

    While holding the child in his right arm, Kennedy kicked Luciano in the pelvis with his right foot, knocking her backward onto the floor, police said. As he did this, Kennedy fell onto the floor with the baby in his arms. Kennedy then got up and ran "down the stairs with the infant until he was stopped by security and escorted back to the infant's room," the police report said.


    I find it funny that when MALE security is called he calms down but he is all for abusing/ attacking women!!! Sounds like he would get along swell with Abouttime!?!?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    Now that there folks is the reclusive "INTERNET TOUGH GUY". See how he postures for no reason at all when caught in the cross hairs..

    So you were there?? saw everything?? to quote Abouttime!!!

    By the way you left out this little tidbit right here. The REASON he fell was the dumbass was kicking a woman!!!!!!!




    I find it funny that when MALE security is called he calms down but he is all for abusing/ attacking women!!! Sounds like he would get along swell with Abouttime!?!?!?!
    He was calm, the nurses were violently trying to kidnap his infant with murderous intent.
    he did not attack the women, he fought off their attack.
    who said the security were male?
    show me where that bit was written?
    when you have armed people pointing guns at you threatening to kill you and your child you tend to hand over the child in the hope they might allow it to live.
    it is for this reason I practice my legal right to carry a firearm at all times.
    not being a tough guy, just keeping it safe!
    you got nothing but insults, I've got freedom!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    He was calm, the nurses were violently trying to kidnap his infant with murderous intent.
    he did not attack the women, he fought off their attack.
    who said the security were male?
    show me where that bit was written?
    when you have armed people pointing guns at you threatening to kill you and your child you tend to hand over the child in the hope they might allow it to live.
    it is for this reason I practice my legal right to carry a firearm at all times.
    not being a tough guy, just keeping it safe!
    you got nothing but insults, I've got freedom!!
    WOW... just WOW.. "kidnap", "muder". where the hell do you get that from these articles???? Seriously dude where??? the primary job of the nursing staff is to protect that baby and be sure its safe.

    now if i had to infer what was said, he asked to get his child some air and the nurse said sure, meaning walk around the maternity floor NOT OUTSIDE. there are safety protocols in place to be sure a newborn is kept safe prior to release from hospital not to mention devices that set off alarms that inform the staff that a infant has left the dept without permission. IF he was concerned for the SAFETY of his baby as YOU claim he would not have been fighting with anyone over a "little fresh air". He would have returned quitely and and come to a REASONABLE accomodation with the staff and would have kept EVERYONE safe and EVERYOEN woulld be aware of what was going on instead of some hot head runing out of the building trying to kidnap a baby! Now if they said they were taking him to cut off his arm you would have a valid point but right now you have NOTHING!!!!!!!!

    As for the "male" security I will use one of your quotes.. "it is infered" due to the fact that MOST security is male....

    This whole murder, kidnap crap is JUST that CRAP!!!!!! YOU have NOT proven once where that intent was ther!! PERIOD!!!!!!

    You sound like a liberal... Tell a lie enough and everyone should beleive it, is that waht your attempting to do take a plan from the liberal playbook??? REALLY!?!?!?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    The liberal forces of abortion believe they may legally take and kill infants in hospital or on route home from hospital with the protection of the law.
    The nurses in the Kennedy incident intended to kill Bo Kennedy, I have no doubt in my mind that this was their intent.
    Per direction of the union bosses I'm sure. As soon as you get to the hospital it might help you to start profiling the nurses to see which ones have spent years in the medical profession training to save lives in order to bring about their treacherous, and apparently legal, views on infanticide; you can't be too safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    when you have armed people pointing guns at you threatening to kill you and your child you tend to hand over the child in the hope they might allow it to live.
    it is for this reason I practice my legal right to carry a firearm at all times.
    !!
    So even if a business states "No weapons" you would break the law by carrying anyway!! Say a lot about YOUR character!!!!!! "Rules be damned I do what I want" Yep that nice..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    WOW... just WOW.. "kidnap", "muder". where the hell do you get that from these articles???? Seriously dude where??? the primary job of the nursing staff is to protect that baby and be sure its safe.

    now if i had to infer what was said, he asked to get his child some air and the nurse said sure, meaning walk around the maternity floor NOT OUTSIDE. there are safety protocols in place to be sure a newborn is kept safe prior to release from hospital not to mention devices that set off alarms that inform the staff that a infant has left the dept without permission. IF he was concerned for the SAFETY of his baby as YOU claim he would not have been fighting with anyone over a "little fresh air". He would have returned quitely and and come to a REASONABLE accomodation with the staff and would have kept EVERYONE safe and EVERYOEN woulld be aware of what was going on instead of some hot head runing out of the building trying to kidnap a baby! Now if they said they were taking him to cut off his arm you would have a valid point but right now you have NOTHING!!!!!!!!

    As for the "male" security I will use one of your quotes.. "it is infered" due to the fact that MOST security is male....

    This whole murder, kidnap crap is JUST that CRAP!!!!!! YOU have NOT proven once where that intent was ther!! PERIOD!!!!!!

    You sound like a liberal... Tell a lie enough and everyone should beleive it, is that waht your attempting to do take a plan from the liberal playbook??? REALLY!?!?!?!?
    Did the nursing staff try to deny parental right?
    under what federal, state or city law may a stranger undermine parental right?
    The nurse prevented the father and child from leaving, unlawfully imprisoning them.
    the nurse made a grab for the child, attempted kidnap, both nurses were flustered and aggressive, the dr attending said so.
    when a stranger makes a lunge for a child the intent is ALWAYS assumed to be murderous.
    would you stand by and do nothing while a couple of shrieking crazies tried to snatch your child?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    So even if a business states "No weapons" you would break the law by carrying anyway!! Say a lot about YOUR character!!!!!! "Rules be damned I do what I want" Yep that nice..
    A buisness has no right to infringe on my legal rights!
    martin Luther king died to prevent such abuses!

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Per direction of the union bosses I'm sure. As soon as you get to the hospital it might help you to start profiling the nurses to see which ones have spent years in the medical profession training to save lives in order to bring about their treacherous, and apparently legal, views on infanticide; you can't be too safe.
    I refer you to barbera boxers statements on right to life and where it begins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    A buisness has no right to infringe on my legal rights!
    martin Luther king died to prevent such abuses!
    A business has EVERY right to determine who they will serve, and when they place rules governing the use of THIER PRIVATE PROPERTY you have the God given right to NOT frequent said establishment... YOU on the other hand have NO right to go to the PRIVATE PROPERTY of ANY business (they let you). Get your fact straight there slim!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    A business has EVERY right to determine who they will serve, and when they place rules governing the use of THIER PRIVATE PROPERTY you have the God given right to NOT frequent said establishment... YOU on the other hand have NO right to go to the PRIVATE PROPERTY of ANY business (they let you). Get your fact straight there slim!!!!!!!!!
    I have the right to enter any buisness, and yes they have the right to refuse service.
    They may do this providing they do not infringe on my basic human and civil rights, those include the right to bear arms.
    if a buisness put up a sign saying no coloureds you would be fine with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Did the nursing staff try to deny parental right?
    under what federal, state or city law may a stranger undermine parental right?
    The nurse prevented the father and child from leaving, unlawfully imprisoning them.
    the nurse made a grab for the child, attempted kidnap, both nurses were flustered and aggressive, the dr attending said so.
    when a stranger makes a lunge for a child the intent is ALWAYS assumed to be murderous.
    would you stand by and do nothing while a couple of shrieking crazies tried to snatch your child?
    Tell ya what I will make this simple for ya.. IF you leave the hospital without going through th check out procedure where everyone has been instructed with follow up care and everyone has been checked over to be sure they are healthy to leave, that is called "leaving AMA" Leaving Against Medical Advice. You still need to fill out the proper paperwork stating what you are doing so when the bill comes do and YOUR insurance REFUSES because YOU were a dick. They know that YOU were instruced in the fact that you are aware of the circumstances and the ramafications..

    Tell me smart guy, why didn't he just go back to the room and clear up any misunderstanding, why did he take to the next level of assaulting women, and endangering his baby?? He was the one that got into a physical altercation with 2 women who were trying to keep his baby safe. He on the other hand was willing to expose a 1 day old infant to the vile streets of New York. REALLY!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I have the right to enter any buisness, and yes they have the right to refuse service.
    They may do this providing they do not infringe on my basic human and civil rights, those include the right to bear arms.
    if a buisness put up a sign saying no coloureds you would be fine with that?
    NO you do not have the RIGHT to enter!! They allow you to enter. NO ONE takes away your right to bear arms but they can limit it on there property, if you don't like their stance don't go on their property.. If a business wants to place a sign that says "No Colored" taht is theire choice they wont stay in business long and there are civil right issues but ultimately they can choose who they wish to serve.....

    YOU NEVER have the RIGHT to enter any establishment!! that is a PRIVILEDGE afforded you by the owner of the establishment.... Get your fact straight!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    Tell ya what I will make this simple for ya.. IF you leave the hospital without going through th check out procedure where everyone has been instructed with follow up care and everyone has been checked over to be sure they are healthy to leave, that is called "leaving AMA" Leaving Against Medical Advice. You still need to fill out the proper paperwork stating what you are doing so when the bill comes do and YOUR insurance REFUSES because YOU were a dick. They know that YOU were instruced in the fact that you are aware of the circumstances and the ramafications..

    Tell me smart guy, why didn't he just go back to the room and clear up any misunderstanding, why did he take to the next level of assaulting women, and endangering his baby?? He was the one that got into a physical altercation with 2 women who were trying to keep his baby safe. He on the other hand was willing to expose a 1 day old infant to the vile streets of New York. REALLY!!!!!!!!!!
    take a geography lesson for starters, it was not the streets if New York.
    it was a warm( unseasonably warm) day in January.
    he attacked no one, the only eyewitness at the scene has stated that the nurses were the only aggressors!
    they attempted to grab( kidnap) his baby, he defended his baby.

    he broke no laws, the nurses are guilty ofseveral felonies.

    which federal, state or city laws overturn the constitutionally protected parental right in this case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    take a geography lesson for starters, it was not the streets if New York.
    it was a warm( unseasonably warm) day in January.
    he attacked no one, the only eyewitness at the scene has stated that the nurses were the only aggressors!
    they attempted to grab( kidnap) his baby, he defended his baby.

    he broke no laws, the nurses are guilty ofseveral felonies.

    which federal, state or city laws overturn the constitutionally protected parental right in this case?
    Uhh ck your facts, when HE grabbed the first nurse by the wrist and twisted that was assault, when HE kicked the second nurse in the pelvis that was assault.. He wasn't protecting anyone he was being an ass with a "look who I am I can do whatever I want attitude". IF there was confusion as to what was transpiring he should have calmly returned to the babies room and discussed how to go about doing what he wanted to do instead of being a jackass that not only injured 2 nurses himself but also placed his baby in a dangerous situation. HE ran down the stairs carrying a newborn baby how fing stupid is that!!!?? HE endangered his infant sons life no one else just him.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    Uhh ck your facts, when HE grabbed the first nurse by the wrist and twisted that was assault, when HE kicked the second nurse in the pelvis that was assault.. He wasn't protecting anyone he was being an ass with a "look who I am I can do whatever I want attitude". IF there was confusion as to what was transpiring he should have calmly returned to the babies room and discussed how to go about doing what he wanted to do instead of being a jackass that not only injured 2 nurses himself but also placed his baby in a dangerous situation. HE ran down the stairs carrying a newborn baby how fing stupid is that!!!?? HE endangered his infant sons life no one else just him.....
    He was prevented from going about his lawfull buisness by a shrieking crazy, another shrieking crazy made to grab his infant child, it was self defense.
    what federal, state or city law empowers complete strangers who are shrieking like crazed banshees, to prevent citizens from going about their lives in peace?
    the only eyewitness to the attack on mr Kennedy has said the ONLY aggressors were the nurses!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    He was prevented from going about his lawfull buisness by a shrieking crazy, another shrieking crazy made to grab his infant child, it was self defense.
    what federal, state or city law empowers complete strangers who are shrieking like crazed banshees, to prevent citizens from going about their lives in peace?
    the only eyewitness to the attack on mr Kennedy has said the ONLY aggressors were the nurses!
    So you were there?? witnessed the "shrieking" you saw all this unfold infront of your eyes. I can as easily state he looked inebriated (he is a Kennedy after all) and was attempting to abduct a child. He became beligerant and attacked nursing staff who were protecting his new born child... He was not going about his life in peace, he was in a public setting in a hospital who's primary mission is the safety of all not some morons feeling of doing what ever I want to do.

    Once again, why didn't he calmly walk back to the room to discuss the walk like civilized man and work out any concerns the staff may have had instead of assaulting the nursing staff who were trying to protect a very fragile new born infant??? Why did he over react?? can you at least admit he way OVER REACTED????!!!!??

    AS for the Dr's statement they were aggresive.. I beleive that was VERBAL not physical except to block a door way and to secure the babies head from bouncing around sense Mr. Kennedy didn't seem to be concerned about that or the fact that he choose to fight with a new born in his hands. HE did NOT have his childs best interest at heart and If you believe he did WHY DID HE NOT GO BACK TO THE ROOM AND DISCUSS IT RATIONALY???????
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