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    This had me wondering yesterday, as some seem to think there are very strict requirements to be a Christian and gain entry into heaven. I think this picture tells the story best.

    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Kinda hammers home much of what i find off putting about religions, making people think they are weak, wicked, and sick.
    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Kinda hammers home much of what i find off putting about religions, making people think they are weak, wicked, and sick.
    That's retarded, knowing that I have admitted my faults to God and have sought forgiveness, and have allowed Christ to be my guide, makes me think I am stronger, way less wicked and healthier. How you can read about someone admitting their faults in this world and following the path of Christ, as somehow making them weak and sick, is way beyond me. Quite frankly, I would see those who refuse to acknowledge sin, refuse to acknowledge God, refuse to see that they are not perfect, refuse to acknowledge Christ as our savior - those are the people I pity and see as weak.

    Absolutely amazing how you can look at someone else's religion and then tell those people that they should feel weak, wicked and sick. Maybe it would be wiser to simply not follow another persons religion if you disagree instead of continually finding new and newer ways to insult? Someone that can't find a way to let others live their lives without popping their nose in to tell them they are "wrong" in some sense seems more the definition of weak, wicked and sick to me.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Quite frankly, I would see those who refuse to acknowledge sin, refuse to acknowledge God, refuse to see that they are not perfect, refuse to acknowledge Christ as our savior - those are the people I pity and see as weak.
    This is my point.
    People who are religious are made to feel that humans are weak, sick etc, and only through god can be strong, healthy etc.

    The above part I quoted shows this perfectly. If you see me as weak because i don't believe in a god, that is because of the impression you have of humans by the belief in god that you have.
    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    This is my point.
    People who are religious are made to feel that humans are weak, sick etc, and only through god can be strong, healthy etc.

    The above part I quoted shows this perfectly. If you see me as weak because i don't believe in a god, that is because of the impression you have of humans by the belief in god that you have.
    No one is made to feel any way at all. That's not the Bible you are reading but one person's excellent description of how they define a Christian. All humans have weaknesses, ALL of us. Some of us aren't afraid to admit it is all. This is US admitting our faults and sins and allowing our faith to make us stronger. You see it as a bad thing as you have nothing to make you stronger, you are empty inside and are convinced when life ends you spend eternity in blackness in the dirt. That's your choice, I'm sure not trying to convince you otherwise.

    And we sure can be strong and healthy via good eating and working out, no one said anything different, other than you making things up. Hell, no offense, but I'd say living your life the way you do has left you weaker and less healthy.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    No one is made to feel any way at all.
    Its a shame you missed the talks the priests gave at our school, telling us that we were ill, but Jesus was the greatest doctor who ever lived etc etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    ]you are empty inside
    There's some more of that condescending talk, so i'm weak, empty inside, and worthy of pity, anything else? ^,^
    Last edited by Noir; 10-11-2012 at 11:21 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    This is my point.
    People who are religious are made to feel that humans are weak, sick etc, and only through god can be strong, healthy etc.

    The above part I quoted shows this perfectly. If you see me as weak because i don't believe in a god, that is because of the impression you have of humans by the belief in god that you have.
    Christians are not weak, sick or oppressed. Just forgiven in the eyes of God.

    The ONLY requirement to be a Christian is to confess your sins and give your life to God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Kinda hammers home much of what i find off putting about religions, making people think they are weak, wicked, and sick.
    Only weaker, more wicked and sicker than an omnipotent God. Christians are merely acknowledging their mortality.

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post

    Only weaker, more wicked and sicker than an omnipotent God. Christians are merely acknowledging their mortality.
    I don't think you'll find any atheists who don't acknowledge their own mortality.

    Far from it - when an athiest dies, we don't then expect immorality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Kinda hammers home much of what i find off putting about religions, making people think they are weak, wicked, and sick.
    that's okay, Noir.....maybe someday you'll also come to realize you're just like the rest of us.....
    ...full immersion.....

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    What's your neck size Noir, like a 13?


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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    What's your neck size Noir, like a 13?

    Noir put weight on? Started eating meat like normal people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Noir put weight on? Started eating meat like normal people?
    LOL So he's a veeeee gun as well as a libtard and an atheistard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    This had me wondering yesterday, as some seem to think there are very strict requirements to be a Christian and gain entry into heaven. I think this picture tells the story best.
    That's a popular misconception. A pastor once taught that it's as simple as "ABC"...

    Accept Christ as your Lord and Savior
    Believe Christ is the Son of God and came to die for your sins
    Confess your sins

    there... you are saved....

    Not by works, but by Grace
    How do you tell a Communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin. - Ronald Reagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    This had me wondering yesterday, as some seem to think there are very strict requirements to be a Christian and gain entry into heaven. I think this picture tells the story best.

    I like that. Whoever wrote it is probably one of those decent Christians, who doesn't judge and treats everyone as equals.
    "You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders – The most famous of which is “never get involved in a land war in Asia” – but only slightly less well-known is this: “Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line”! - Vizzini (The Princess Bride)
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