Vote 3rd Party

[revelarts]

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Not my choice of a candidate but the comparison makes a point that's lost on some Republicans and Democrats. That is, that their candidates are not very different in most important areas.

I wish some folks had started a Vote 3rd party campaign, ANY 3rd party,
There are A LOT of people that really don't care for Romney or Obama and if the D's and R's saw close to a 1/3 voting in other parties they'd have to take some notice and at the least throw some bones to the people. And at best really start running candidates and voting in ways that lined up with the constitution and the peoples desires.


It'll get little traction here i suppose but still i'll put it out there.
VOTE 3rd PARTY
ANY 3rd Party

[fj1200]

A pointless endeavor. Americans do not want a third party. They may not want BO or Romney but they're going to want Johnson even less.

[revelarts]

Any 3rd party

[fj1200]

Whom they like even less. It's like shooting blind.

[revelarts]

Whom they like even less. It's like shooting blind.

No, it's pulling real votes from the D's and R's. letting them know that people will not just vote for any candidate they throw in our faces just because they are on the ticket.

The bare differences between the candidates show anyone not joined at the hip the the big 2 that there's really no choice here.

Any 3rd party choice AT LEAST sends a message. Not hoping for a win. But a Awake up call for the powers that be.

[Little-Acorn]

Any 3rd party

Yep, every vote we take away from Romney helps put Obama back in office.

GREAT plan.

Typical of the short-sighted loser cadre, to NOT mount the kind of massive campaign needed to get a win, wait for their "new" candidate to be reduced to insignificance, and then push him weakly at the last moment when they only thing he can do that late is make the least-bad major candidate lose.

These people give a whole new meaning to "fifth column".

[revelarts]

And Romney will change what in office? Go to war with Iran faster?
Fix the economy? are you sure?
Stop the terrorist? Obey the constitution? protect gun rights? Abortion? Are you sure?

The thread where i ask for real differences between the 2 has crickets having babies 3rd and 4th generations at this point.

Any 3rd party

[fj1200]

No, it's pulling real votes from the D's and R's. letting them know that people will not just vote for any candidate they throw in our faces just because they are on the ticket.

But that's exactly what you propose.

Any 3rd party

The bare differences between the candidates show anyone not joined at the hip the the big 2 that there's really no choice here.

Any 3rd party choice AT LEAST sends a message. Not hoping for a win. But a Awake up call for the powers that be.

Fine, you believe there is very little difference, most disagree. I share your desire for more parties/voices to be included in the mix on election day but under our current methods for voting it will not happen. The requirement to simply get the most votes on election day will almost always come down to the big 2. Start calling for election reform that insists on 50% +1 for every federal election, including electoral votes, and you'll automatically eliminate the "throwing away your vote" reasoning for not voting third party. I would know that if I "threw away my vote" on the Libertarians I could make it up on the runoff if it came down to it.

[revelarts]

As long as the votes are counted, the D's and R's will be concerned about the numbers that go to 3rd parties. Even if they "don't count". the numbers will tell a story that can't be ignored.

whether enough people are fed up enough or have the blinders off enough is any story.

[fj1200]

No, they'll be happy that they won. The best you can hope for is if they take honest stock in the tenor of the third party votes, if they're even significant, and they adjust their strategy/message for the next voting cycle.

[revelarts]

No, they'll be happy that they won. The best you can hope for is if they take honest stock in the tenor of the third party votes, if they're even significant, and they adjust their strategy/message for the next voting cycle.

exactly, that would be the bare minimal as as mentioned in my 1st post.

[Abbey Marie]

No, it's pulling real votes from the D's and R's. letting them know that people will not just vote for any candidate they throw in our faces just because they are on the ticket.

The bare differences between the candidates show anyone not joined at the hip the the big 2 that there's really no choice here.

Any 3rd party choice AT LEAST sends a message. Not hoping for a win. But a Awake up call for the powers that be.

Rev, Romney was not "thrown in our faces". We had primaries, and he won.

[tailfins]

If Obama has failed you by not getting a single payer health plan and hasn't done enough for the environment, the Green Party is on the ballot!

http://www.gp.org/index.php

Whether the issue is universal health care, corporate globalization, alternative energy, election reform or decent, living wages for workers, Greens have the courage and independence necessary to take on the powerful corporate interests.

[fj1200]

exactly, that would be the bare minimal as as mentioned in my 1st post.

But any third party will just muffle the message. And even then the only place you can build on those gains would be in the primaries which third partiers have eschewed.

[revelarts]

Yep, every vote we take away from Romney helps put Obama back in office.

GREAT plan.

Typical of the short-sighted loser cadre, to NOT mount the kind of massive campaign needed to get a win, wait for their "new" candidate to be reduced to insignificance, and then push him weakly at the last moment when they only thing he can do that late is make the least-bad major candidate lose.

These people give a whole new meaning to "fifth column".

And BTW what's worse, if the party leaders compromise to what the "enemy" wanted for years? But give lip service to party values. Or a "5th column" that fights for the original goals the party was for in the 1st place?