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    Default Obama confirms Iran's right to nuclear technology

    This is a lot like confirming that a known arsonist has the "right" to play with matches in a powder magazine, while piously reciting that he doesn't have the right to blow anything up.

    Even if Iran builds a reactor for the purpose of generating electricity, does anyone in his right mind believe they will never use that technology later to produce fissile material for a bomb?

    How far will we continue this insanity?

    Is it November yet?

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    http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9010171941

    Iran's N. Rights Acknowledged by Obama

    14:13 | 2012-01-21

    TEHRAN (FNA)- Senior Iranian parliamentary sources revealed on Saturday that the Swiss envoy to Tehran has quoted US President Barack Obama as acknowledging Iran's nuclear rights.

    Swiss Ambassador to Tehran Livia Leu Agosti attended a meeting with senior Iranian foreign ministry officials a few days ago to submit a letter from the US president to Tehran leaders.

    Vice-Chairman of the Iranian Parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Hossein Ebrahimi told FNA that during the meeting, Agosti had told the Iranian officials that President Barack Obama recognizes Iran's right of access and use of the nuclear technology.

    "There are a couple of points with regard to this (US) message (to Iran)," Ebrahimi said and added, "Firstly, during the session to submit the message, the Swiss ambassador to Tehran quoted the US president as saying that 'we (the US) recognize your nuclear rights'."

    As regards the second issue, the lawmaker said that the Swiss diplomat had also quoted Obama as saying that "I didn't want to impose sanctions on your central bank but I had no options but to approve it since a Congress majority had approved the decision."

    Iran's Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehman-Parast said on Sunday that Iran has received a US message regarding the Strait of Hormoz via three different channels.

    "The US Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice had handed a letter to Iran's Ambassador to the UN Mohammad Khazayee; the Swiss Ambassador to Tehran (Livia Leu Agosti) also conveyed the same thing; and Iraqi President Jalal Talabani delivered the same message to Iranian officials," he said last Sunday.

    The US letter follows threats by Iran last month to shut off the Strait of Hormoz - the world's most important oil shipping lane - if new US and EU sanctions over its nuclear program halted Iranian oil exports.

    Then the United States said it would not allow Iran to block the Strait, calling it a "red line" for the US military.

    In reply, Lieutenant Commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Brigadier General Hossein Salami dismissed the US warning over the closure of the strategic strait, and stressed that powerful Iran acts on its own and never asks for anyone's permission to carry out what it desires.

    "The US is not in a position" to affect Iran's decisions, Salami told FNA late in December. "Iran does not ask permission to implement its own defensive strategies."

    Meantime, US Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman General Martin Dempsey acknowledged that Iran is able to close the Strait of Hormuz.

    "They've invested in capabilities that could, in fact, for a period of time block the Strait of Hormoz," Dempsey said in an interview aired on the CBS "Face the Nation" program.
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    Default Please forgive me jimnyc!

    Forgive me jimnyc. But.....OBAMA IS A LIAR, AND ASSHOLE!
    Everyone should accept those TWO facts as Honest, and Truthful.

    Obama's eyes are Brown for more reasons than we know.
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    Actually Iran does have the legal right to nuclear power under the NPT which they have signed. Obama is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jafar00 View Post
    Actually Iran does have the legal right to nuclear power under the NPT which they have signed. Obama is correct.
    Does that include locking inspectors out of Parchin? And testing detonators? Are detonators part of the NPT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jafar00 View Post
    Actually Iran does have the legal right to nuclear power under the NPT which they have signed. Obama is correct.
    What part do centrifuges play in the need for nuclear power? Furthermore, with Iran sitting on huge amounts of oil, why would they need nuclear power in the first place?

    And what defensive role do ICBMs play?

    No, we're looking at a country that wants to become a nuclear power and will use that power to annihilate Israel.

    Of course, the problem with that is the Israel also has nuclear weapons and will use them if provoked.

    So there you have it. You're defending increasing the likelihood of a nuclear war in the Middle East.

    It's going to be hard to go to Mecca during the Haaj with all of that nuclear fallout... or haven't you thought of that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    This is a lot like confirming that a known arsonist has the "right" to play with matches in a powder magazine, while piously reciting that he doesn't have the right to blow anything up.

    Even if Iran builds a reactor for the purpose of generating electricity, does anyone in his right mind believe they will never use that technology later to produce fissile material for a bomb?

    How far will we continue this insanity?

    Is it November yet?

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    http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9010171941

    Iran's N. Rights Acknowledged by Obama

    14:13 | 2012-01-21

    TEHRAN (FNA)- Senior Iranian parliamentary sources revealed on Saturday that the Swiss envoy to Tehran has quoted US President Barack Obama as acknowledging Iran's nuclear rights.

    Swiss Ambassador to Tehran Livia Leu Agosti attended a meeting with senior Iranian foreign ministry officials a few days ago to submit a letter from the US president to Tehran leaders.

    Vice-Chairman of the Iranian Parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Hossein Ebrahimi told FNA that during the meeting, Agosti had told the Iranian officials that President Barack Obama recognizes Iran's right of access and use of the nuclear technology.

    "There are a couple of points with regard to this (US) message (to Iran)," Ebrahimi said and added, "Firstly, during the session to submit the message, the Swiss ambassador to Tehran quoted the US president as saying that 'we (the US) recognize your nuclear rights'."

    As regards the second issue, the lawmaker said that the Swiss diplomat had also quoted Obama as saying that "I didn't want to impose sanctions on your central bank but I had no options but to approve it since a Congress majority had approved the decision."

    Iran's Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehman-Parast said on Sunday that Iran has received a US message regarding the Strait of Hormoz via three different channels.

    "The US Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice had handed a letter to Iran's Ambassador to the UN Mohammad Khazayee; the Swiss Ambassador to Tehran (Livia Leu Agosti) also conveyed the same thing; and Iraqi President Jalal Talabani delivered the same message to Iranian officials," he said last Sunday.

    The US letter follows threats by Iran last month to shut off the Strait of Hormoz - the world's most important oil shipping lane - if new US and EU sanctions over its nuclear program halted Iranian oil exports.

    Then the United States said it would not allow Iran to block the Strait, calling it a "red line" for the US military.

    In reply, Lieutenant Commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Brigadier General Hossein Salami dismissed the US warning over the closure of the strategic strait, and stressed that powerful Iran acts on its own and never asks for anyone's permission to carry out what it desires.

    "The US is not in a position" to affect Iran's decisions, Salami told FNA late in December. "Iran does not ask permission to implement its own defensive strategies."

    Meantime, US Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman General Martin Dempsey acknowledged that Iran is able to close the Strait of Hormuz.

    "They've invested in capabilities that could, in fact, for a period of time block the Strait of Hormoz," Dempsey said in an interview aired on the CBS "Face the Nation" program.
    I told all you guys that obama plays for the freaking other teams, especially the ones that are prayerrug masters!!--Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlMarx View Post
    What part do centrifuges play in the need for nuclear power? Furthermore, with Iran sitting on huge amounts of oil, why would they need nuclear power in the first place?
    I think for them, it has become a matter of national pride.

    Quote Originally Posted by KarlMarx View Post
    And what defensive role do ICBMs play?
    Are they the only ones to build missiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by KarlMarx View Post
    No, we're looking at a country that wants to become a nuclear power and will use that power to annihilate Israel.
    There is no evidence to confirm that statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by KarlMarx View Post
    Of course, the problem with that is the Israel also has nuclear weapons and will use them if provoked.
    Yes. The Samson option. We are all targets of Israel. Israel has also never been inspected by UN inspectors.

    Quote Originally Posted by KarlMarx View Post
    So there you have it. You're defending increasing the likelihood of a nuclear war in the Middle East.

    It's going to be hard to go to Mecca during the Haaj with all of that nuclear fallout... or haven't you thought of that?
    The prevailing winds blow the other way over that part of Asia. It's more likely that Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan would get most of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jafar00 View Post
    I think for them, it has become a matter of national pride.



    Are they the only ones to build missiles?



    There is no evidence to confirm that statement.



    Yes. The Samson option. We are all targets of Israel. Israel has also never been inspected by UN inspectors.



    The prevailing winds blow the other way over that part of Asia. It's more likely that Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan would get most of it.
    When Mecca is evaporated who gets the fallout will not do them any good! Your Allah can not stop a nuke blast directly on Satan's city.
    Islam wants its own nukes simply because they know Allah can not protect them or his holy cities. We can break Islam by simply evaporating Mecca and Medina. A neat and fast victory..Think about that.... -Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    When Mecca is evaporated who gets the fallout will not do them any good! Your Allah can not stop a nuke blast directly on Satan's city.
    Islam wants its own nukes simply because they know Allah can not protect them or his holy cities. We can break Islam by simply evaporating Mecca and Medina. A neat and fast victory..Think about that.... -Tyr
    Could you then stop a billion and a half of us spread around the world from exacting a swift and decisive reply?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jafar00 View Post
    Could you then stop a billion and a half of us spread around the world from exacting a swift and decisive reply?


    jafar. There you go. Exposing all of your past lies here. Pretending, and insisting YOU DO NOT HATE. Then you announce your deepest, darkest, secretive, unspoken wishes on anyone who ISN'T LIKE YOU.

    Hypocrisy just leaked from the vacuum between your ears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    jafar. There you go. Exposing all of your past lies here. Pretending, and insisting YOU DO NOT HATE. Then you announce your deepest, darkest, secretive, unspoken wishes on anyone who ISN'T LIKE YOU.

    Hypocrisy just leaked from the vacuum between your ears.
    You do know that he was responding to a (implied) threat to annihilate their holy cities don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    You do know that he was responding to a (implied) threat to annihilate their holy cities don't you?

    Oh. Now I get it. jafar and others are permitted to say almost anything designed to expose their hatred. But anyone who disagree's with such tactics is forbidden, or denounced for FIGHTING FIRE with Fire????

    That sounds very much like a double-standard here. Everyone is free to denounce, and make accusations about Christians. But Christians are forbidden from responding IN KIND, because that is Unfair, and Hateful...if you are not a Christian?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    Oh. Now I get it. jafar and others are permitted to say almost anything designed to expose their hatred. But anyone who disagree's with such tactics is forbidden, or denounced for FIGHTING FIRE with Fire????

    That sounds very much like a double-standard here. Everyone is free to denounce, and make accusations about Christians. But Christians are forbidden from responding IN KIND, because that is Unfair, and Hateful...if you are not a Christian?????
    How would you feel if he suggested that someone "evaporate" the Vatican (or insert your favored holy site here)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jafar00 View Post
    Could you then stop a billion and a half of us spread around the world from exacting a swift and decisive reply?
    H-bombs damn sure could! Neutron bombs do it with less mess and no fallout. We as a nation could destroy all if need be. Thats why muslims want A-bombs because we have the might and the power and your ALLAH CAN NOT DO A DAMN THING ABOUT IT BECAUSE HE IS ONLY A DEMON THAT OBEYS SATAN.
    Don't try to intimidate me pedro, it doesnt work. I have no fear of dying myself.. -TYR
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    jafar. There you go. Exposing all of your past lies here. Pretending, and insisting YOU DO NOT HATE. Then you announce your deepest, darkest, secretive, unspoken wishes on anyone who ISN'T LIKE YOU.

    Hypocrisy just leaked from the vacuum between your ears.
    Don't presume to know me, nor call me a liar. You talked about a threat to "evaporate Mecca and Medina". I merely pointed out the folly of the suggestion.

    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    Oh. Now I get it. jafar and others are permitted to say almost anything designed to expose their hatred. But anyone who disagree's with such tactics is forbidden, or denounced for FIGHTING FIRE with Fire????

    That sounds very much like a double-standard here. Everyone is free to denounce, and make accusations about Christians. But Christians are forbidden from responding IN KIND, because that is Unfair, and Hateful...if you are not a Christian?????
    Are you free to insult us, and threaten us, and kill us, and not expect a response?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    H-bombs damn sure could! Neutron bombs do it with less mess and no fallout. We as a nation could destroy all if need be. Thats why muslims want A-bombs because we have the might and the power and your ALLAH CAN NOT DO A DAMN THING ABOUT IT BECAUSE HE IS ONLY A DEMON THAT OBEYS SATAN.
    Don't try to intimidate me pedro, it doesnt work. I have no fear of dying myself.. -TYR
    Muslims do have the "A-bomb" Tyr. And it's a country being torn by a pack of rabid Taliban. Are you worried yet?

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