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    Default tale of two houses

    I was swnt this today, found it interesting.......

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    Subject: "The Story of Two Houses"
    House #1
    A 20 room mansion ( not including 8 bathrooms ) heated by natural
    gas. Add on a pool ( and a pool house) and a separate guest house, all
    heated by gas.
    In one month this residence consumes more energy than the average
    American household does in a year.
    The average bill for electricity and natural gas runs over $2400.
    In natural gas alone, this property consumes more than 20 times the
    national average for an American home.
    This house is not situated in a Northern or Midwestern "snow belt"
    area. It's in the South.
    ~~~
    House #2
    Designed by an architecture professor at a leading national
    university.
    This house incorporates every "green" feature current home
    construction can provide.
    The house is 4,000 square feet ( 4 bedrooms ) and is nestled on an
    arid, high prairie in the American southwest.
    A central closet in the house holds geothermal heat-pumps drawing
    ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground. The water (
    usually 67 degrees F. ) heats the house in the winter and cools it in the
    summer.
    The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or natural gas and it
    consumes one-quarter electricity required for a conventional heating/cooling
    system.
    Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000
    gallon underground cistern.
    Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground
    purifying tanks and then into the cistern. The collected water then
    irrigates the land surrounding the house.
    Surrounding flowers and shrubs native to the area enable the
    property to blend into the surrounding rural landscape.
    ~~~~~
    HOUSE #1 is outside of Nashville , Tennessee ; it is the abode of the
    "environmentalist" Al Gore.
    *
    HOUSE #2 is on a ranch near Crawford , Texas ; it is the residence the
    of the President of the United States , George W. Bush.
    *
    No matter where I've traveled or how great the trip was, it's always wonderful to return to my country, The United States of America......... me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sitarro View Post
    I was swnt this today, found it interesting.......

    As verified by Snopes:
    Subject: "The Story of Two Houses"
    House #1
    A 20 room mansion ( not including 8 bathrooms ) heated by natural
    gas. Add on a pool ( and a pool house) and a separate guest house, all
    heated by gas.
    In one month this residence consumes more energy than the average
    American household does in a year.
    The average bill for electricity and natural gas runs over $2400.
    In natural gas alone, this property consumes more than 20 times the
    national average for an American home.
    This house is not situated in a Northern or Midwestern "snow belt"
    area. It's in the South.
    ~~~
    House #2
    Designed by an architecture professor at a leading national
    university.
    This house incorporates every "green" feature current home
    construction can provide.
    The house is 4,000 square feet ( 4 bedrooms ) and is nestled on an
    arid, high prairie in the American southwest.
    A central closet in the house holds geothermal heat-pumps drawing
    ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground. The water (
    usually 67 degrees F. ) heats the house in the winter and cools it in the
    summer.
    The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or natural gas and it
    consumes one-quarter electricity required for a conventional heating/cooling
    system.
    Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000
    gallon underground cistern.
    Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground
    purifying tanks and then into the cistern. The collected water then
    irrigates the land surrounding the house.
    Surrounding flowers and shrubs native to the area enable the
    property to blend into the surrounding rural landscape.
    ~~~~~
    HOUSE #1 is outside of Nashville , Tennessee ; it is the abode of the
    "environmentalist" Al Gore.
    *
    HOUSE #2 is on a ranch near Crawford , Texas ; it is the residence the
    of the President of the United States , George W. Bush.
    *
    Fine strong insinuations. Well done.: But think of this. OMHO Al Gore is a nothing person, and allways has been. and his house is a total blight on enviromental issues. HOWEVER. Do you really think George Bush had even the slightest hand in the planning and construction of his house and grounds.??? I don't think he could even build a two hole outhouse. (it would likely have two half moon holes for half@$$ed people.

    ( and just for the sake of my personal disenters: No, I haven't been invited HEH HEH)
    Last edited by Doniston; 05-27-2007 at 12:43 PM.
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    Even when the President does everything right he is criticised by the left. No Doniston, he may not have built the house himself, he would have been criticized for that too(how can he justify building a house when there are so many more important issues out there?!) But it was built and it is not only incredibly efficient, it is also not a palace that one would expect a person that, according to the left, is only worried about money.

    Here is an idiot writer's take..........


    http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0429-03.htm


    Sunday, May 27, 2007

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    Published on Sunday, April 29, 2001 in the Chicago Tribune
    Bush Loves Ecology -- At Home
    by Rob Sullivan

    The 4,000-square-foot house is a model of environmental rectitude.
    Geothermal heat pumps located in a central closet circulate water through pipes buried 300 feet deep in the ground where the temperature is a constant 67 degrees; the water heats the house in the winter and cools it in the summer. Systems such as the one in this "eco-friendly" dwelling use about 25% of the electricity that traditional heating and cooling systems utilize.

    A 25,000-gallon underground cistern collects rainwater gathered from roof runs; wastewater from sinks, toilets and showers goes into underground purifying tanks and is also funneled into the cistern. The water from the cistern is used to irrigate the landscaping surrounding the four-bedroom home. Plants and flowers native to the high prairie area blend the structure into the surrounding ecosystem.

    No, this is not the home of some eccentrically wealthy eco-freak trying to shame his fellow citizens into following the pristineness of his self-righteous example. And no, it is not the wilderness retreat of the Sierra Club or the Natural Resources Defense Council, a haven where tree-huggers plot political strategy.

    This is President George W. Bush's "Texas White House" outside the small town of Crawford.

    Yes, the same George W. who believes arsenic and drinking water might not be such a bad combo, the same man who reneged on his campaign promise to lower carbon dioxide emissions from power plants, the same man who is doing everything in his power to fling open the Alaskan Natural Wildlife Refuge to oil drilling.

    How does the President reconcile an eco-friendly abode for his own family with his persistent stand against anything that smacks of an environmentally friendly agenda for the nation as a whole? The answer to that perplexing question is a real mystery.

    Perhaps sound ecological practices are only for those who can afford them: as a self-proclaimed strict constructionist of the U.S. Constitution, Bush must be aware that clean air and clean water are not guaranteed in that glorious document. Perhaps in Bush's Brave New Corporate World, clean natural resources are merely commodities in a free-market economy: if you can pay for them, fine; if not, tough. The rest of us will just have to put up with more toxic dumps and more public lands being turned over to logging, mining and oil companies.

    According to David Heymann, the house's architect and associate dean of the University of Texas architecture department, Heymann designed the house so that "every room has a relationship with something in the landscape that's different from the room next door. Each of the rooms feels like a slightly different place."

    In a USA Today interview, Heymann said, "There's a great grove of oak trees to the west that protects it from the late afternoon sun. Then there is a view out to the north looking at hills, and to the east out over a lake, and the view to the south . . . out to beautiful hills."

    I suppose in George W.'s architectural world only the rich and powerful have views; vistas that the public owns as part of its shared heritage are up for lease and sale.

    Heymann also termed the house "stunningly small." Really? Would it be stunningly small for a single mother in South Central Los Angeles? How stunningly small would it be for an immigrant Latino family in San Antonio Maybe in the rarified heights where second homes are the norm, 4,000 square feet is small and on a stunning scale as well, but in Main Street America that much elbow room is pretty big for the first and only home.
    No matter where I've traveled or how great the trip was, it's always wonderful to return to my country, The United States of America......... me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sitarro View Post
    Even when the President does everything right he is criticised by the left. No Doniston, he may not have built the house himself, he would have been criticized for that too(how can he justify building a house when there are so many more important issues out there?!) But it was built and it is not only incredibly efficient, it is also not a palace that one would expect a person that, according to the left, is only worried about money.

    Here is an idiot writer's take..........


    http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0429-03.htm


    Sunday, May 27, 2007

    Featured Views





    Published on Sunday, April 29, 2001 in the Chicago Tribune
    Bush Loves Ecology -- At Home
    by Rob Sullivan

    The 4,000-square-foot house is a model of environmental rectitude.
    Geothermal heat pumps located in a central closet circulate water through pipes buried 300 feet deep in the ground where the temperature is a constant 67 degrees; the water heats the house in the winter and cools it in the summer. Systems such as the one in this "eco-friendly" dwelling use about 25% of the electricity that traditional heating and cooling systems utilize.

    A 25,000-gallon underground cistern collects rainwater gathered from roof runs; wastewater from sinks, toilets and showers goes into underground purifying tanks and is also funneled into the cistern. The water from the cistern is used to irrigate the landscaping surrounding the four-bedroom home. Plants and flowers native to the high prairie area blend the structure into the surrounding ecosystem.

    No, this is not the home of some eccentrically wealthy eco-freak trying to shame his fellow citizens into following the pristineness of his self-righteous example. And no, it is not the wilderness retreat of the Sierra Club or the Natural Resources Defense Council, a haven where tree-huggers plot political strategy.

    This is President George W. Bush's "Texas White House" outside the small town of Crawford.

    Yes, the same George W. who believes arsenic and drinking water might not be such a bad combo, the same man who reneged on his campaign promise to lower carbon dioxide emissions from power plants, the same man who is doing everything in his power to fling open the Alaskan Natural Wildlife Refuge to oil drilling.

    How does the President reconcile an eco-friendly abode for his own family with his persistent stand against anything that smacks of an environmentally friendly agenda for the nation as a whole? The answer to that perplexing question is a real mystery.

    Perhaps sound ecological practices are only for those who can afford them: as a self-proclaimed strict constructionist of the U.S. Constitution, Bush must be aware that clean air and clean water are not guaranteed in that glorious document. Perhaps in Bush's Brave New Corporate World, clean natural resources are merely commodities in a free-market economy: if you can pay for them, fine; if not, tough. The rest of us will just have to put up with more toxic dumps and more public lands being turned over to logging, mining and oil companies.

    According to David Heymann, the house's architect and associate dean of the University of Texas architecture department, Heymann designed the house so that "every room has a relationship with something in the landscape that's different from the room next door. Each of the rooms feels like a slightly different place."

    In a USA Today interview, Heymann said, "There's a great grove of oak trees to the west that protects it from the late afternoon sun. Then there is a view out to the north looking at hills, and to the east out over a lake, and the view to the south . . . out to beautiful hills."

    I suppose in George W.'s architectural world only the rich and powerful have views; vistas that the public owns as part of its shared heritage are up for lease and sale.

    Heymann also termed the house "stunningly small." Really? Would it be stunningly small for a single mother in South Central Los Angeles? How stunningly small would it be for an immigrant Latino family in San Antonio Maybe in the rarified heights where second homes are the norm, 4,000 square feet is small and on a stunning scale as well, but in Main Street America that much elbow room is pretty big for the first and only home.
    I'm not sure, but your tone seems to indicate we are Both preaching to the choir my point is that the occupants of these houses cannot be adequately compared. They both leave much to be desired. But in diverse directions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doniston View Post
    I'm not sure, but your tone seems to indicate we are Both preaching to the choir my point is that the occupants of these houses cannot be adequately compared. They both leave much to be desired. But in diverse directions.
    one claims to be green and is not....he is the "leader" of the global warming movement yet personally contributes to the problem .....

    the other does not claim to be green but is .....

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

    ~Albert Camus

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    one claims to be green and is not....he is the "leader" of the global warming movement yet personally contributes to the problem .....

    the other does not claim to be green but is .....
    i agree completely witht the first statement.

    But as for the second. I don't think he would know, and as I said, I don't think it is his doing. he's just living there.
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