Thunderstruck

[jimnyc]

Knowing that terrorists and scumbags are on the receiving end of this display of force makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside!

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[jimnyc]

Another cool video, telling us more about the beast known as the Black Hawk

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[jimnyc]

And this sucker is awesome too, the Apache Longbow!!

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[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Too bad that Hamas doesnt get a good taste of what those weapon systems can do!
Maybe it would limit how many rockets they get to launch to murder Israeli civilians.
We should be generous and just give Israel a couple dozen of those babies. Tell 'em to give Iran a good taste too. Tyr

[James]

Knowing that terrorists and scumbags are on the receiving end of this display of force makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside!

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Sorry if I don't share your enthusiasm. It makes me sad that the US has devolved into a nation that values the absurd displays of force we heap upon enemies.

[jimnyc]

Sorry if I don't share your enthusiasm. It makes me sad that the US has devolved into a nation that values the absurd displays of force we heap upon enemies.

No need to apologize, it's cool if you disagree. I'm just happy AND proud that we have the strongest military in the world with the best technology. And when that might gets used against terrorists and other known enemies, I am thrilled and make zero apologies for that.

[James]

No need to apologize, it's cool if you disagree. I'm just happy AND proud that we have the strongest military in the world with the best technology. And when that might gets used against terrorists and other known enemies, I am thrilled and make zero apologies for that.

Do you share that elation when using it against civilians and when toppling regimes that don't serve this country's interests? From a moral perspective, we've failed as a global police force and, thus, will continue on as is.

[jimnyc]

Do you share that elation when using it against civilians and when toppling regimes that don't serve this country's interests? From a moral perspective, we've failed as a global police force and, thus, will continue on as is.

I don't believe we target civilians, but they are an unfortunate casualty in war. And if dictators and killers in other countries are busy killing their own citizens or neighbors, I don't have an issue watching them get toppled. But these are 2 separate subjects. I was championing our military, and they simply follow orders. One could love the military and technology and still disagree with the things you point out.

[aboutime]

Sorry if I don't share your enthusiasm. It makes me sad that the US has devolved into a nation that values the absurd displays of force we heap upon enemies.

Hard to believe someone who seems to condone, and even studies anarchists would have something negative to say like this.

By the way. The US hasn't devolved any more than any other nation with displays of force. If we didn't have the capabilities. YOU might not be able to enjoy talking about it, either way.

[James]

I don't believe we target civilians, but they are an unfortunate casualty in war. And if dictators and killers in other countries are busy killing their own citizens or neighbors, I don't have an issue watching them get toppled. But these are 2 separate subjects. I was championing our military, and they simply follow orders. One could love the military and technology and still disagree with the things you point out.

Yes, I suppose we can debate military history later on(In the meantime, I recommend you do some reading in to Vietnam and our conflicts within Central America.) My original post was merely meant as a critique of the ethics behind our cultural idealization of the use of force.

[James]

Hard to believe someone who seems to condone, and even studies anarchists would have something negative to say like this.

By the way. The US hasn't devolved any more than any other nation with displays of force. If we didn't have the capabilities. YOU might not be able to enjoy talking about it, either way.

I do seemed to have made you angry. How childish to be so bothered by another's belief system.

Briefly, one of the primary reason I embrace AC is my opposition to this country's past use of military.

[aboutime]

I do seemed to have made you angry. How childish to be so bothered by another's belief system.

Briefly, one of the primary reason I embrace AC is my opposition to this country's past use of military.

And you have every right to voice your opinion here. But the phony excuse..."opposition to this country's past use of military" is actually laughable. Considering your statement about embracing AC.

[SassyLady]

Sorry if I don't share your enthusiasm. It makes me sad that the US has devolved into a nation that values the absurd displays of force we heap upon enemies.

When we live in a world that only respects power, then it behooves one to have more power if they want to stay at the top of the food chain.

It makes me sad that there are still people in the world that want to bring America to her knees ... which necessitates using force on our "enemies". If they were not "enemies" we would not have to use force, now would we?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

When we live in a world that only respects power, then it behooves one to have more power if they want to stay at the top of the food chain.

It makes me sad that there are still people in the world that want to bring America to her knees ... which necessitates using force on our "enemies". If they were not "enemies" we would not have to use force, now would we?

And Sassy, that is the one line that defeats all the talk coming from liberals/leftists and anti-American haters of all stripes!!! That they present we haven't the right to defend ourselves while they promote everybody else's right to do so! Which is silly as hell. Next they toss out but its unfair that we have the best weapons! As if the concept of winning and surviving do not exist ! The hypocrisy is simply off the charts on that reasoning. When enemies want to kill you and kill/enslave your family the ideal that fairness and equality within the fight are of importance is ridiculous.. As your quote so rightly stated..---Tyr

[CSM]

Sorry if I don't share your enthusiasm. It makes me sad that the US has devolved into a nation that values the absurd displays of force we heap upon enemies.

Hmm ... I suppose the US as a nation should value the displays of force our enemies wish to heap upon us. In truth, there are many who do exactly that. Yes, there are many who celebrated the attack on Pearl Harbor, the destruction of the Twin Towers on 911 and still celebrate every time some terrorist launches a missile, sets off an IED or saws the head off an innocent. Yeah, it makes one sad.