The only thing that should trump our Freedoms is family

[Robert A Whit]

Our country didn't have any issues, social, criminal, deviancy, otherwise in the 50's? Hmm, interesting hypothesis.

I suppose that would be your definition of family as well.

I had planned to just read this thread until that was stated.

I lived in those days. As a Teen.

Show me where the OP made the statement you just made? TY.

I had more time for family as a Teen because I did not have a computer to dick around with all day long. When I was in High School, I learned what a TV was and Dad got a 12 inch set. Black and White. Try watching that all damned day long.

Playing sports with my pals was more interesting. We used to spend a lot of time in our local hills and camping out. Kept the fat off. Nobody ran around then whining the country was obese.

While there was crime, we often left doors unlocked since the fear was very minor. I went to church too. With the family.

[fj1200]

in public places were children or welcome yes absolutely, any place you can go with your children should not be detrimental to them, Family and children is family and children, do your have various definitions

I was referring to family as a unit. You know with kids, should they have a stable home environment? I'm out with my kids all the time in situations I do not feel is detrimental to them. If I felt otherwise I could take them somewhere else.

im sure we did, those issues have always been a part of society, but to what, do you attribute to the Moral and Traditional values decay in this country, i mean in Texas its still against the law to use foul language in the presents of women and children, that seems useless now, sense they are some of the worst offenders

Bad government. They have essentially destroyed the lower class with bad policy that greatly minimizes employment opportunities. That and school monopolies granted by government.

So in TX no one swears in front of kids? I'm sure that gets enforced all the time.

[fj1200]

I had planned to just read this thread until that was stated.

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Show me where the OP made the statement you just made? TY.

You should have kept reading; it was answered.

[Larrymc]

I was referring to family as a unit. You know with kids, should they have a stable home environment? I'm out with my kids all the time in situations I do not feel is detrimental to them. If I felt otherwise I could take them somewhere else.



Bad government. They have essentially destroyed the lower class with bad policy that greatly minimizes employment opportunities. That and school monopolies granted by government.

So in TX no one swears in front of kids? I'm sure that gets enforced all the time.

did i not say its useless anymore, the point being that we used to have respect for women and children, but the rolling of the eyes tell me you are clueless about such things, which is really the point of my post

[fj1200]

did i not say its useless anymore, the point being that we used to have respect for women and children, but the rolling of the eyes tell me you are clueless about such things, which is really the point of my post

Yeah, "it seems useless." still works. I have respect and I know many people with respect and I'm sure there were plenty that didn't even back then but what you're proposing is instituting your opinions and definitions on everyone. Yeah, I'm clueless but you think you can legislate respect.

[Larrymc]

I was referring to family as a unit. You know with kids, should they have a stable home environment? I'm out with my kids all the time in situations I do not feel is detrimental to them. If I felt otherwise I could take them somewhere else.



Bad government. They have essentially destroyed the lower class with bad policy that greatly minimizes employment opportunities. That and school monopolies granted by government.

So in TX no one swears in front of kids? I'm sure that gets enforced all the time.

point is you shouldn't have to leave, people should respect your kids, but im guessing you don't do much leaving for your kids sac??

[Larrymc]

point is you shouldn't have to leave, people should respect your kids, but im guessing you don't do much leaving for your kids sac??

i agree with you on the bad Government

[fj1200]

point is you shouldn't have to leave, people should respect your kids, but im guessing you don't do much leaving for your kids sac??

My kids "sac"?

So I take my kids into a biker bar, they should have to change their behavior because I take my 5-year old in or I should know what to expect in a biker bar? Hmm, seems the latter.

[Larrymc]

My kids "sac"?

So I take my kids into a biker bar, they should have to change their behavior because I take my 5-year old in or I should know what to expect in a biker bar? Hmm, seems the latter.

sorry some times i draw a blank, kids sake, if you take your kids into a biker bar, that's your on stupidity, i tried to stop you from wasting our time, did i not say im not talking about adult venues,

[fj1200]

sorry some times i draw a blank, kids sake, if you take your kids into a biker bar, that's your on stupidity, i tried to stop you from wasting our time, did i not say im not talking about adult venues,

Gee, it's a good thing I don't go into any biker bars with my kids then. So when are you going to define your versions of family, appropriateness etc.? Are you in favor of a stable home environment for kids?

[Larrymc]

Gee, it's a good thing I don't go into any biker bars with my kids then. So when are you going to define your versions of family, appropriateness etc.? Are you in favor of a stable home environment for kids?

of course kids also need a stable home environment, Family a mom a dad and children, but i think your trying to force an opinion on Gay's with kids, so hear ya go, kids are resilient and can do ok in many diverse situations, it will never be a Traditional family, and will never be as optimal for raising children, sense the optimal way is influence from a Mom and a Dad

[fj1200]

of course kids also need a stable home environment, Family a mom a dad and children, but i think your trying to force an opinion on Gay's with kids, so hear ya go, kids are resilient and can do ok in many diverse situations, it will never be a Traditional family, and will never be as optimal for raising children, sense the optimal way is influence from a Mom and a Dad

That's a fine opinion. So what's your rationale for not providing a more stable home environment for kids with two moms?

[aboutime]

That's a fine opinion. So what's your rationale for not providing a more stable home environment for kids with two moms?

Better yet, fj. How bout you tell us about your TWO MOMS, and how life has been for you....without a Father figure?

[Larrymc]

That's a fine opinion. So what's your rationale for not providing a more stable home environment for kids with two moms?

were have i advocated for not providing a stable home for any children, i have in fact advocated for stable environment for kids even in public, so IDK what your talking about

[fj1200]

Better yet, fj. How bout you tell us about your TWO MOMS, and how life has been for you....without a Father figure?

It took you long enough to start in with the unsubstantiated, and false btw, claims. You must have been chomping at the bit.

were have i advocated for not providing a stable home for any children, i have in fact advocated for stable environment for kids even in public, so IDK what your talking about

You are against marriage for some who are raising kids together and you have yet to set forth your definitions by which to legislate.