Denny's Manager: Customer saw gun - you must leave the restaurant (to COPS)

[darin]

Unreal.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=33459

Five on-duty but out of uniform detectives were in the middle of their meal at the Denny’s. The restaurant chain said a customer spotted one of the officers carrying a gun and alerted the manager. The manager told the detective she would have to leave or secure the gun in her car, that guns are not allowed in Denny’s. Even after the officers explained they were cops they were still told they could not carry their weapons in the business. Captain Sax said, “I’ve never known anybody that didn’t want a police officer present in an establishment in a business it’s added security it’s absolutely what they want.”

[tailfins]

Unreal.

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I bet if there is a call to that restaurant, other calls will take a higher priority. McDonald's used to not even charge cops for their meal.

[fj1200]

IF they have that policy, there's no exception for on duty officers?

[logroller]

I bet if there is a call to that restaurant, other calls will take a higher priority. McDonald's used to not even charge cops for their meal.

I've no doubt that happens, but that borders on corruption.
Discounts I can understand, but free is tantamount to bribery.

IF they have that policy, there's no exception for on duty officers?

So long as their badge is visible, seems an exception would be warranted.

[gabosaurus]

Denny's has been backpedaling ever since. But I am guessing that the damage has been done.
In the area I grew up, police officers got free coffee and drink refills at 7-11. A small donut place gave police officers free coffee and a donut.

I have never been to Denny's. They are well known for discriminatory practices.

[aboutime]

Unreal.

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dmp. That manager must like chasing customers away. If I was one of those cops. I'd say..."Fine. We'll leave. And...by the way. We'll tell the rest of the DEPARTMENT not to stop here. Thank you very much."

[tailfins]

Denny's has been backpedaling ever since. But I am guessing that the damage has been done.
In the area I grew up, police officers got free coffee and drink refills at 7-11. A small donut place gave police officers free coffee and a donut.

I have never been to Denny's. They are well known for discriminatory practices.

I don't know about their discriminatory practices, but their food tastes like frozen then thawed.

[Little-Acorn]

If you have a silly rule about "no guns in this restaurant", who says there has to be any limit to the silliness?

Such rules, of course, are obeyed only by the law-abiding, leaving criminals free to bring in guns, assault people, even murder people etc. Most mass shootings you've heard of, take place in these silly "gun free zones", including Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut, the theater in Aurora, CO, and others. Criminals prefer them for obvious reasons.

I've always been curious:

If some store owner puts a "no guns" rule in place at his store (as is his right), and some crook violates it, brings in a gun, and shoots somebody... does the store owner assume responsibility for the customers' safety since he forbade them to bring the tools to defend themselves?

Or do the customers themselves still have the responsibility, since no one forced them to go into that store, they did it voluntarily? Meaning, the store owner is giving customers the choice between giving up their ability to defend themselves against that crook, or never patronizing that store at all?

[Thunderknuckles]

It's not all that bad. There's plenty of fake cop robberies that happen to make me nervous like the manager. We had some fake cops robbing people in their homes a little while back in my neck of the woods. Discussed it with my wife and told her never let anyone in the house. If they say they are cops, get their badge numbers and call the PD to verify before opening the door. Which is what I would have done with the detectives at the Denny's.

[fj1200]

If some store owner puts a "no guns" rule in place at his store (as is his right), and some crook violates it, brings in a gun, and shoots somebody... does the store owner assume responsibility for the customers' safety since he forbade them to bring the tools to defend themselves?

No, we're always told it's the fault of the criminal right?

[darin]

No, we're always told it's the fault of the criminal right?

No, we are always told it's the fault of whatever method the criminal used. It's not - NEVER a human depravity problem. We're "Evolved" right? :-/

[Kathianne]

If you have a silly rule about "no guns in this restaurant", who says there has to be any limit to the silliness?

Such rules, of course, are obeyed only by the law-abiding, leaving criminals free to bring in guns, assault people, even murder people etc. Most mass shootings you've heard of, take place in these silly "gun free zones", including Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut, the theater in Aurora, CO, and others. Criminals prefer them for obvious reasons.

I've always been curious:

If some store owner puts a "no guns" rule in place at his store (as is his right), and some crook violates it, brings in a gun, and shoots somebody... does the store owner assume responsibility for the customers' safety since he forbade them to bring the tools to defend themselves?

Or do the customers themselves still have the responsibility, since no one forced them to go into that store, they did it voluntarily? Meaning, the store owner is giving customers the choice between giving up their ability to defend themselves against that crook, or never patronizing that store at all?

That is exactly what happened at Luby's, I think it was Jim that posted a video by the daughter of two of the victims, testifying at a Congressional Committee hearing.

[fj1200]

No, we are always told it's the fault of whatever method the criminal used. It's not - NEVER a human depravity problem. We're "Evolved" right? :-/

Right, sorry. I meant from the pro-2nd people.

[jimnyc]

I think Log may be on to something about the visibility. I admit I have no read the entire article. Did they KNOW this was a police officer? Could she have just wore ID or a badge and remained with her weapon? Even after the ID was known, Denny's wouldn't make a concession for police officers? I'll have to read more about this. But if they stand their ground on this issue, I hope cops then boycott their restaurant. I think this is a pretty stupid decision.

[Marcus Aurelius]

Unreal.

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Most off duty police are REQUIRED to have a weapon on their person. No idea what this Denny's manager was thinking.