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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    You don't have to be religious to be married. You don't have to get married in a church.
    My sister is not religious. She was legally married in a civil ceremony.

    The government says you have to be legally married for either of the partners receive certain benefits.
    Several members of my mother's family live in Germany. Except for one of my aunts, they are all married. Germans have nothing against marriage.

    I doesn't matter if you think homosexuality is disgusting. It's not against the law. Therefore, there should be nothing saying that homosexuals shouldn't get married.
    Gabby, I don't care if you go down to the supermarket, and buy a carton of milk and the pimply kid behind the counter unites you to your same sex partner and you call it marriage. It's just a label. I don't care. The word Marriage or any form thereof should not appear in a single government document.

    The word CONTRACT should and could cover every conceivable situation. The government should be required to accept ANY contract that does not violate the law. Since the word married is not in any government documents it stands to reason that no laws against any marriages may exist.


    loons that keep screaming that kids would be getting married, get real. There are age of consent laws in regards to contracts in every state in the union, as well as statutory rape laws.

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    No one has presented a valid legal reason why two adults of either sex can't marry each other.
    There are already laws concerning minors and bestiality. My original posts specifically refers to adults.

    This country specifically divides church and state. Religion should not dictate how people should live, since not all people share the same religious beliefs. Or any beliefs at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert A Whit View Post





    I was discussing her plan. In a marriage, child support is related to marriage. She calls for the government stepping aside from marriage. And if the children are step children, the law will not force the step dad to pay for their child support. So not saying you are wrong, but I am saying she will not be pleased if the government goes out of the marriage bueiness.
    you logic still fails. Family courts don't care about the marital relationship between mother and father when considering the issue of child support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert A Whit View Post
    I was discussing her plan. In a marriage, child support is related to marriage. She calls for the government stepping aside from marriage. And if the children are step children, the law will not force the step dad to pay for their child support. So not saying you are wrong, but I am saying she will not be pleased if the government goes out of the marriage bueiness.
    Her plan would be of no consequence to what you bring up. Child support could/would still be an issue if the parents have a dispute. I'm sure family courts would still intervene if the parents could not come to an agreement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert A Whit View Post
    Non responsive to my actual point. I agree with the above remark.
    Responsive it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert A Whit View Post
    Non responsive to my actual point. I agree with the above remark.




    his post was dead on point to yours

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    If we were as industrious to become good as to make ourselves great, we should become really great by being good, and the number of valuable men would be much increased; but it is a grand mistake to think of being great without goodness; and i pronounce it as certain that there was never yet a truly great man that was not at the same time truly virtuous." - Ben Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
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    I noticed you did not include the State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    No one has presented a valid legal reason why two adults of either sex can't marry each other.
    There are already laws concerning minors and bestiality. My original posts specifically refers to adults.

    This country specifically divides church and state. Religion should not dictate how people should live, since not all people share the same religious beliefs. Or any beliefs at all.
    Marriage is a religious term. If you're not religious, WHY THE HELL DOES IT MATTER????

    It's for your church to decide. And even then, it's for your religion to decide as well.

    After that, get a civil union, who cares?

    Don't shove that gay crap on my religion. All religions are against it. (Yes I'm discounting "Scientology")

    This is how I and most religious folk view it, keep it out of my church, and we won't have a problem.

    Besides, what's the point? It's not like you can have kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    No one has presented a valid legal reason why two adults of either sex can't marry each other.
    There are already laws concerning minors and bestiality. My original posts specifically refers to adults.

    This country specifically divides church and state. Religion should not dictate how people should live, since not all people share the same religious beliefs. Or any beliefs at all.

    Gabby. What official U.S. Document 'specifically divides church and state'.....In those words?
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cadet View Post
    Besides, what's the point? It's not like you can have kids.
    Gays have kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    You don't have to be religious to be married. You don't have to get married in a church.
    My sister is not religious. She was legally married in a civil ceremony.

    The government says you have to be legally married for either of the partners receive certain benefits.
    Several members of my mother's family live in Germany. Except for one of my aunts, they are all married. Germans have nothing against marriage.

    I doesn't matter if you think homosexuality is disgusting. It's not against the law. Therefore, there should be nothing saying that homosexuals shouldn't get married.
    More logic for you.

    Homosexuals nor anybody should get special benefits from the Feds given they have no laws about marriage at all.

    If you mean state benefits, states somehow have sneaked in their right to govern marriage. But the Feds also snuck in some benefit over marriage and over children.

    Each human has to be treated equal. And your claim they can restrict due to age makes no sense since you want the government out of marriages to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadet View Post
    Marriage is a religious term. If you're not religious, WHY THE HELL DOES IT MATTER????

    It's for your church to decide. And even then, it's for your religion to decide as well.

    After that, get a civil union, who cares?

    Don't shove that gay crap on my religion. All religions are against it. (Yes I'm discounting "Scientology")

    This is how I and most religious folk view it, keep it out of my church, and we won't have a problem.

    Besides, what's the point? It's not like you can have kids.

    LOL, of course that statement isn't true.




    also PS wanting you to shut up about them wanting to call their unions marriages, is NOT I repeat NOT shoving gay down your religion's throats.

    You mind your business, they mind theirs, everyone is happy, at least theoretically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Gays have kids.
    Show me one gay couple that's managed to HAVE kids. Not adopt, not sperm donate, HAVE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    That's not my point. I want to know why the government shouldn't sanction same sex marriage.
    Individuals can think and do what they believe.
    Why should government sanction any marriage? I thought you wanted government out of marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadet View Post
    Show me one gay couple that's managed to HAVE kids. Not adopt, not sperm donate, HAVE.
    Not the point. You need to get out more.
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