We're in a Recovery

[Robert A Whit]

I also find it offensive that the only jobs programs that the Republicans can support are oil related. Don't we need to fix our roads and bridges? Don't oil tankers drive over our infrastructure too?

Roads and bridges are oil related. What is your point again?

There is a myth that the Feds send Cash to the oil companies as benefits. The money sent by the Feds is to pay the bill for fuel and oil products to them is all it is. But the Oil companies don't get subsidies.

I made at the time a lot of money on that sort of infrastructure.

Roads are normally under the control of states. I spent 9 years working my way up the ladder on construction jobs to the point I was the manager over a major BART project. I got the bills and took them to Company headquarters. I dealt with inspectors that represented the customer. I never at any point ran into Federal inspectors. I ran into many state or county inspectors though.

Obama has fooled many people talking about such construction jobs.

I got my paycheck from a major construction company. They got paid by the State. I admit that my crews at times had to meet Federal standards such as percentages of minorities.

Do you know, when the negro was worried he might lose his job, he worked as well as any white. But when they found out they were favored over whites, they goofed off.

[aboutime]

First. I am now apologizing to Gabby.
Second. I am now convinced Bingster...not Gabby, is the dumbest member here.

Proof. Just read any of Bingsters posts.

End of story.

[Robert A Whit]

Actually, I'm sorry, it wasn't you who blamed him for stagnant wages. It was one of the earlier posts to push back against the purpose of this thread.

The fact is Obama has always on the side of ecologists who fear climate change. The Keystone project is not dead yet, I just read an article that it's still being studied and a verdict is due in March. He's been against it because it's the dirtiest type of oil in the world and that it would leave a huge carbon footprint. If I was to bet, I would say that the project will go through. A majority of the Senate is now for it.

Gee, climate change eh?

I don't even know why this comes up.

Wanna know why?

The sum total of the warming climate is slight. A bit over 1 degree.

And do you know how it is measured?

Something they call an average. Professor Lindzen of MIT, explained to me that they should not use average but should use mean temperature.

Even so, the change is simply far too tiny.

Then you have the fact for instance that once a huge sheet of ice was over a lot of North America. Do you want the great lakes to freeze again and get covered by a glacier?

Thank your good luck those glaciers that extended to NY City melted due to non man made global warming.

We would not even have much decent farm land in this country had it not warmed up.

I looked over the NASA model of earth heat. And it is not like a blanket, it is like warm and cool globs around the earth.

For them to score points, the ecowhack jobs made the temp go from blue to orange in about 1 degree.

Then take another look at the hockey stick.

The graph would be virtuallya flat line were the dates and temps showed in proper scale.

You can use a graph to fool people.

And they keep trying to pull that same stuff.

They are not honest.

I think I will send Professor Lindzen a note and one to Professor Mueller. I want to see what they say about that hocky stick. I call it hocky shit.

[gabosaurus]

If there is anything that ultra conservative jackasses can even remotely blame on Obama, they are going to do it. Again and again.
But when Dems did the same thing to Dubya, they were labeled as unpatriotic haters.
The hypocrisy never fails to amaze me.

[Robert A Whit]

If there is anything that ultra conservative jackasses can even remotely blame on Obama, they are going to do it. Again and again.
But when Dems did the same thing to Dubya, they were labeled as unpatriotic haters.
The hypocrisy never fails to amaze me.

I only blame Obama for being incompetent. At least when you had Clinton, he came to DC with real experience and was an expert on how to manage government.

Bush slashed taxes for all of us. But he got no credit for the good economy and only when the home industry crashed the economy, greatly helped by Democrats and of course buyers that agreed to tell lies merely to get a loan, did Democrats give him credit for anything, to wit they bawled that he ruined the economy. The same policy that helped the econmy could not also ruin the economy.

I don't get why democrats are so dumb they can't spot a phony that simply using bull shit managed to occupy the white house. Worse, no matter how he screwed up, they continue to support him.

A feckng Mazing.

He shows up a community organizer. My god, per Democrats he now knows just how to be a state senator. ROFLMAO

Next he talks a lot and poof, he ends up on Capitol Hill acting the part time role of a US Senator. Voting present is not what a decent Senator should do.

[aboutime]

If there is anything that ultra conservative jackasses can even remotely blame on Obama, they are going to do it. Again and again.
But when Dems did the same thing to Dubya, they were labeled as unpatriotic haters.
The hypocrisy never fails to amaze me.

Gabby. Most of us are really so, so proud of your ability to Perpetuate, and so freely Repeat the known lies, even as you deny the actual facts, and would never admit to feeling Buyers Remorse for your TWO dumb votes in 2008, and 2012. In fact. You, and people like you WROTE THE BOOK on HYPOCRISY.

[Kathianne]

If there is anything that ultra conservative jackasses can even remotely blame on Obama, they are going to do it. Again and again.
But when Dems did the same thing to Dubya, they were labeled as unpatriotic haters.
The hypocrisy never fails to amaze me.

Problem is this is a case of coming home to roost. The 'fun times' for those that claimed to be disenfranchised in 2004, have dome home. Welcome to it. More to come in the future thanks to Pelosi and Reid.

[Esox]

We're in a recovery with an economy that went backwards last quarter.

Innat a peach?

[fj1200]

... the dumbest member here.

You're really not one to talk.

[red states rule]

The president has almost nothing to do with gas prices-remember 2008 before the crash? Rising food prices have to do with gas prices; Wages are still flat for the same reason unemployment numbers are still high-demand has not completely returned. Do Republicans have any excuses for why Europe has done so poorly compared to America?

If Dems could have passed a budget by themselves, they would have. The House Republicans couldn't pass a budget even if the Democrats agreed with them. They don't agree with themselves.

Economy still sucks but the blame isn't all for Obama or all for Republicans. Cynical Obama bashing is neither productive nor realistic.

Since when does the President have nothing to do with gas prices Bing? Lets take a walk down memory lane (thanks to Al Gore's Amazing Internet) and see how Dems looked at high gas prices

First, we have the Holy Bible of the left - the NY Times

From April 2006:

WASHINGTON, April 20 — Democrats running for Congress are moving quickly to use the most recent surge in oil and gasoline prices to bash Republicans over energy policy, and more broadly, the direction of the country.


With oil prices hitting a high this week and prices at the pump topping $3 a gallon in many places, Amy Klobuchar, a Democratic Senate candidate in Minnesota, is making the issue the centerpiece of her campaign. Ms. Klobuchar says it "is one of the first things people bring up" at her campaign stops.


To varying degrees, Democrats around the country are following a similar script that touches on economic anxiety and populist resentment against oil companies.
"It's a metaphor for an economy that keeps biting people despite overall good numbers," said Senator Charles E. Schumer of New York, chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Mr. Schumer said Democratic candidates in 10 of the 34 Senate races this year had scheduled campaign events this week focusing on gasoline prices.


Officials at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which advises House candidates, said they sent a memorandum to candidates on Thursday offering guidance on using the issue to their advantage. The memorandum includes a "sample statement" that recommends telling voters, "Americans are tired of giving billion-dollar tax subsidies to energy companies and foreign countries while paying record prices at the pump."
Increasing gasoline prices have put Republicans on the defensive at a time when they are counting on the economy to help offset the myriad other problems they face, starting with the Iraq war.


Republicans say they have spent years advocating policies that would reduce the reliance on imported oil, largely by promoting more domestic energy production, and they point to the energy bill that President Bush signed last August as a step in that direction. They said that the law encouraged conservation and greater use of ethanol in gasoline and that it would have done more for domestic oil supplies if Democrats had not fought so hard against drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.


http://www.nytimes.com/learning/teac...424monday.html


Then we have the Messiah himself blaming Pres Bush for high gas prices (I doubt if he has anything to say since gas prices have doubled since he took office except it's Bush's fault)

Oh an BTW Bing, Obama still has the drilling ban in the Gulf, he refuses to allow drilling where we knew their is oil, and continues to piss away tax payer money on his failed "green" energy ideas. So it is no wonder libs have nothing to say about high gas prices except this is the new norm in the Obama economy (along with high unemployment

[red states rule]

If there is anything that ultra conservative jackasses can even remotely blame on Obama, they are going to do it. Again and again.
But when Dems did the same thing to Dubya, they were labeled as unpatriotic haters.
The hypocrisy never fails to amaze me.

No Gabby we are holing Obama to the same standards libs like you held Pres Bush to. Which of course you dismiss as hate, racism, and being unpatriotic. Once again you have proven if not for you double standards liberals like you would have no standards at all

BTW do we need to take time and post a list of the threads you started during the Bush years? You were hardly supportive of anything the man did and your side blamed him for the bridge collapse in MN and the divorce of Al and Tipper