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    Default Catholic hospital says fetuses are not people

    In other words: We follow the doctrines of the Catholic Church, unless it will cost us money.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...-case/1863013/

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    I don't think that the Catholic hospitals or church are going to be forced into a death spiral, no matter the chatter from the left.
    Last edited by Kathianne; 01-26-2013 at 02:56 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    In other words: We follow the doctrines of the Catholic Church, unless it will cost us money.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...-case/1863013/
    I don't know about that Gabby. The Church can certainly believe one thing while acknowledging the law. In other words the law has recognized that point A is where life begins Even though the Church believes it begins at Point B, so I hardly find it legal that the legal system could then later say well we're going to ignore Point A in this instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    In other words: We follow the doctrines of the Catholic Church, unless it will cost us money.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...-case/1863013/
    "Under Colorado law, a fetus is not a 'person' and plaintiff's claims for wrongful death must therefore be dismissed," the hospital argued.
    You prefer they create law?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    I don't know about that Gabby. The Church can certainly believe one thing while acknowledging the law. In other words the law has recognized that point A is where life begins Even though the Church believes it begins at Point B, so I hardly find it legal that the legal system could then later say well we're going to ignore Point A in this instance.
    "Under Colorado law, a fetus is not a 'person' and plaintiff's claims for wrongful death must therefore be dismissed," the hospital argued.

    The Colorado lawsuit isn't the first time that a Catholic hospital has argued that it is not liable for the death of a fetus. In 1996, the Florida Supreme Court ruled that a mom there could not sue St. Vincent's Medical Center of Jacksonville over the death of her unborn child.


    William ****z, St. Vincent's trial attorney, defended the hospital's stance at the time.


    "We've never contended that a fetus is not a person," ****z told the Orlando Sentinel in 1996. "We've always said that an unborn person does not have the right to bring a lawsuit in Florida."
    If the unborn have the right to bring a lawsuit.... then there's about 30 million Americans who can sign onto a class action suit against liberals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taft2012 View Post
    If the unborn have the right to bring a lawsuit.... then there's about 30 million Americans who can sign onto a class action suit against liberals.
    The point is, the unborn have no rights at all. Because they are not classified as people.
    You can post all the photos and sonograms you wish. But it doesn't change the law. No one is a person until they are born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    The point is, the unborn have no rights at all. Because they are not classified as people.
    You can post all the photos and sonograms you wish. But it doesn't change the law. No one is a person until they are born.
    nce again I ask you Gabby, how can you say this is not a living and breathing child?


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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    In other words: We follow the doctrines of the Catholic Church, unless it will cost us money.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...-case/1863013/

    According to published reports, a brief filed by the hospital, owned by Englewood, Colo.-based Catholic Health Initiatives, said that the fetuses are not covered by state's Wrongful Death Act.

    "Under Colorado law, a fetus is not a 'person' and plaintiff's claims for wrongful death must therefore be dismissed," the hospital argued.

    A state district court and an appeals court agreed with the hospital. The case, originally filed in 2007, is currently on appeal to the Colorado Supreme Court.
    It isn't the Catholic Church saying the fetus isn't a person it's Colorado Law. That being said, the hospital is being hypocritical by using that defense.

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    My view of the catholic church was totally destroyed by this thread.

    My original view below.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    In other words: We follow the doctrines of the Catholic Church, unless it will cost us money.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...-case/1863013/
    The thread title is a lie. Plain and simple. Not surprising, considering the source of the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius View Post
    The thread title is a lie. Plain and simple. Not surprising, considering the source of the thread.
    Are you serious? This is EXACTLY what the story says. Perhaps you need to improve your reading comprehension skills.

    Cadet, I don't really understand your post. I hope you realize that Monty Python is satire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    you realize that Congress could pass a federal law stating that for the purposes of determining when criminal charges may apply that X is when life begins and that if anyone aborted a child after that they would then be guilty of murder don't you? Tell me, why hasn't that been done at any point in time when the Republicans were in power?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigg View Post
    It isn't the Catholic Church saying the fetus isn't a person it's Colorado Law. That being said, the hospital is being hypocritical by using that defense.
    Perhaps, yet as I said earlier, the law is tending to force such hypocrisy against malpractice.

    Quote Originally Posted by cadet View Post
    My view of the catholic church was totally destroyed by this thread.
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    Well, seems the bishops in CO are looking into the defense, will be interesting to find what they conclude. From this article, sounds like the hospital has much to answer for, though the lower courts so far have disagreed:

    http://www.canoncitydailyrecord.com/...e-that-fetuses


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