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    Default Warrantless, Annual Searches of Your Home

    Forget police drones flying over your house. How about police coming inside, once a year, to have a look around?

    As Orwellian as that sounds, it isn’t hypothetical. The notion of police home inspections was introduced in a bill last week in Olympia...
    “They always say, we’ll never go house to house to take your guns away. But then you see this, and you have to wonder.”

    That’s no gun-rights absolutist talking, but Lance Palmer, a Seattle trial lawyer and self-described liberal who brought the troubling Senate Bill 5737 to my attention. It’s the long-awaited assault-weapons ban, introduced last week by three Seattle Democrats...

    “In order to continue to possess an assault weapon that was legally possessed on the effective date of this section, the person possessing shall ... safely and securely store the assault weapon. The sheriff of the county may, no more than once per year, conduct an inspection to ensure compliance with this subsection.”

    In other words, come into homes without a warrant to poke around. Failure to comply could get you up to a year in jail.

    “I’m a liberal Democrat — I’ve voted for only one Republican in my life,” Palmer told me. “But now I understand why my right-wing opponents worry about having to fight a government takeover...”

    I spoke to two of the sponsors. One, Sen. Adam Kline, D-Seattle, a lawyer who typically is hyper-attuned to civil-liberties issues, said he did not know the bill authorized police searches because he had not read it closely before signing on...

    Misstep in gun bill could defeat the effort | Local News | The Seattle Times
    They claim it was a "misstep," but what else would they say?

    It strikes me as something they would put in the bill in hopes that no one would notice it. Hell, one of the sponsors barely even read the damn bill, a perfect example...
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    Frightening.


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    I can hear it now.

    "But if you have nothing to hide..."

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    It looks to me like the inspection is just to ensure the weapon is stored securely. I see nothing wrong with it. If you don't have such a weapon, they have no inspection to do anyway.
    اشهد ان لا اله الا الله و اشهد ان محمدا رسول الله

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    Quote Originally Posted by jafar00 View Post
    It looks to me like the inspection is just to ensure the weapon is stored securely. I see nothing wrong with it. If you don't have such a weapon, they have no inspection to do anyway.
    An example of cultural differences.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jafar00 View Post
    It looks to me like the inspection is just to ensure the weapon is stored securely. I see nothing wrong with it. If you don't have such a weapon, they have no inspection to do anyway.
    Sure.

    And no other possible legal infraction(s) on the premises will be noted and logged, for future possible enforcement actions.
    Last edited by Esox; 02-18-2013 at 06:40 PM.

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    The only thing I have to say to this is :
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiccanLiberal View Post
    The only thing I have to say to this is :
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
    Unless, of course, it's your banking records (IRS ans Patriot Act), roving cell wiretaps (ditto), Medical records (ObammyCare), you trying to get on an airliner (TSA), internet communications (Echelon and Carnivore), reputed roadside sobriety checks, random highway vehicle searches. The list goes on and on.

    The 4th Amendment is dead.
    Last edited by Esox; 02-18-2013 at 06:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiccanLiberal View Post
    The only thing I have to say to this is :
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    But...we are all learning. Almost daily. How the Obama administration is ignoring, or intentionally avoiding the RIGHTS of WE THE PEOPLE. Look at the number of times Obama and Friends have already sidestepped, and avoided obeying the constitution.

    Quoting any Constitutional Amendment means nothing to Obama, or Holder.
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jafar00 View Post
    It looks to me like the inspection is just to ensure the weapon is stored securely. I see nothing wrong with it. If you don't have such a weapon, they have no inspection to do anyway.
    See this is where you are wrong!!!!!!!!!!!! Today its an inspection, tomorrow it's a confiscation.. You and your ilk don't get the slippery slope you are treading on with this type of behavior.. When have YOU ever known the govt to give up anything its starts!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    See this is where you are wrong!!!!!!!!!!!! Today its an inspection, tomorrow it's a confiscation.. You and your ilk don't get the slippery slope you are treading on with this type of behavior.. When have YOU ever known the govt to give up anything its starts!!!

    Nukeman. You must be old enough to remember the expression about "A man's home is his castle".?

    If someone like Obama, or someone in his administration, or congress is permitted to violate the constitution with such inspections. I do hope the INVADED CASTLE...has an owner there...armed, and willing to protect his property according to the 2nd Amendment.
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
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    scared me for a minute......I thought you said anal......
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    scared me for a minute......I thought you said anal......
    Only is Massachusetts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    Only is Massachusetts...

    And even there, only in P-Town.

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    This is so typical of the left and how they SLOWLY expand their power over the people; and they say it is for the common good

    With Obama's reelection, the left is even more arrogant and more power hungry so for the next 4 years libs will go for broke to achieve their utopia dreams

    and they have the US Constitution in their crosshairs


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