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    Default Why don't we see Islamic attacks in Latin America?

    Any ideas why?
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    Latin America is almost 100% Catholic

    To Muslims and Islamist fundamentalists it is not worth it to try and convert people or set up operations.

    They'd stand out too much.

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    Good question.

    It'd be easy enough. Just attack them at noon when they're all asleep under them big dopey hats.
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    http://www.amazon.com/Dying-Win-Stra...0/lewrockwell/
    Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism

    ...I have compiled a database of every suicide bombing and attack around the globe from 1980 through 2003—315 attacks in all.1 It includes every attack in which at least one terrorist killed himself or herself while attempting to kill others; it excludes attacks authorized by a national government, for example by North Korea against the South. This database is the first complete universe of suicide terrorist attacks worldwide. I have amassed and independently verified all the relevant information that could be found in English and other languages (for example, Arabic, Hebrew, Russian, and Tamil) in print and on-line. The information is drawn from suicide terrorist groups themselves, from the main organizations that collect such data in target countries, and from news media around the world. More than a “list of lists,” this database probably represents the most comprehensive and reliable survey of suicide terrorist attacks that is now available.

    The data show that there is little connection between suicide terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism, or any one of the world’s religions. In fact, the leading instigators of suicide attacks are the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, a Marxist-Leninist group whose members are from Hindu families but who are adamantly opposed to religion. This group committed 76 of the 315 incidents, more suicide attacks than Hamas.

    Rather, what nearly all suicide terrorist attacks have in common is a specific secular and strategic goal: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from territory that the terrorists consider to be their homeland. Religion is rarely the root cause, although it is often used as a tool by terrorist organizations in recruiting and in other efforts in service of the broader strategic objective....
    Dying to Win is a startling work of analysis grounded in fact, not politics, that recommends concrete ways for states to fight and prevent terrorist attacks now. Transcending speculation with systematic scholarship, this is one of the most important studies of the terrorist threat to the United States and its allies since 9/11.

    “Invaluable . . . gives Americans an urgently needed basis for devising a strategy to defeat Osama bin Laden and other Islamist militants.”
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    “Provocative . . . Pape wants to change the way you think about suicide bombings and explain why they are on the rise.”
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    “Enlightening . . . sheds interesting light on a phenomenon often mistakenly believed to be restricted to the Middle East.”
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    “Brilliant.”
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    doesn't fit the picture painted in the US by some politicians and the media.
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    ...Three general patterns in the data support my conclusions. First, nearly all suicide terrorist attacks occur as part of organized campaigns, not as isolated or random incidents. Of the 315 separate attacks in the period I studied, 301 could have their roots traced to large, coherent political or military campaigns.

    Second, democratic states are uniquely vulnerable to suicide terrorists. The United States, France, India, Israel, Russia, Sri Lanka, and Turkey have been the targets of almost every suicide attack of the past two decades, and each country has been a democracy at the time of the incidents.

    Third, suicide terrorist campaigns are directed toward a strategic objective. From Lebanon to Israel to Sri Lanka to Kashmir to Chechnya, the sponsors of every campaign have been terrorist groups trying to establish or maintain political self-determination by compelling a democratic power to withdraw from the territories they claim. Even al-Qaeda fits this pattern: although Saudi Arabia is not under American military occupation per se, a principal objective of Osama bin Laden is the expulsion of American troops from the Persian Gulf and the reduction of Washington’s power and influence in the region....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    Any ideas why?
    Could be because those hot headed people there would kill 'em as soon as they started. The fools prefer to die on a suicide blast and get their 72 gay virgins.

    Hunted down or shot done in the streets may not get 'em that paradise full of women victims that the savages desire to be able to rape for eternity. -Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Could be because those hot headed people there would kill 'em as soon as they started. The fools prefer to die on a suicide blast and get their 72 gay virgins.

    Hunted down or shot done in the streets may not get 'em that paradise full of women victims that the savages desire to be able to rape for eternity. -Tyr
    They're there, they just keep a low profile. The border with Paraguay is a headquarters for bootleg merchandise and is corrupt through-and-through. There would be an uproar if it were shut down because people couldn't get their counterfeit iPads.

    Brazil is home to one of the largest Arab populations outside the Middle East, with most living in Sao Paulo and in Foz do Iguacu, a hotbed of smuggling and contraband in the so-called Tri-Border region near Argentina and Paraguay.
    U.S. officials have been concerned for years that the Tri-Border region could be a fundraising center for Hezbollah and Hamas — although a recent U.S. State Department report said there was no confirmation "that these or other Islamic extremist groups had an operational presence in the region."

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,522078,00.html
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    This is pretty easy to answer. Radical Islamic groups would be no match for the drug cartels that control much of South America. Not to mention that the Muslims wouldn't want to pay the brides necessary to do business in Latin American countries.

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    Default We watch left wing news people

    We in this country watch left wing news people.

    If you are able to, watch some international news.

    I do not mean Al Jazera.

    I mean DWTV from Berlin or RT that probably broadcasts in both England and elsewhere.

    Assuming the left wing will tell you the truth about terrorists is a wild stretch.
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    So what is your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    This is pretty easy to answer. Radical Islamic groups would be no match for the drug cartels that control much of South America. Not to mention that the Muslims wouldn't want to pay the brides necessary to do business in Latin American countries.
    "BRIDES?" Gabby. You must be the spell checker at the M & M plant.
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    Easy, they fear the almighty chupacabra!
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    Default Wot the hell?

    Does Gabby think the Muslims are still attacking the USA?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert A Whit View Post
    We in this country watch left wing news people.

    If you are able to, watch some international news.

    I do not mean Al Jazera.

    I mean DWTV from Berlin or RT that probably broadcasts in both England and elsewhere.


    Assuming the left wing will tell you the truth about terrorists is a wild stretch.
    Just to confirm that you're correct. Al Jazeera, available on just about every medium .. Freeview, Sky TV, Cable TV, I think FreeSat as well. DWTV ... Sky Satellite (and, of course, from European satellites like HotBird, which are also available to the UK). RT ... Freeview, Cable, Sky TV.
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    Default Why don't we see Islamic attacks in Latin America?

    Tailfins, et al,

    They are there, we just don't pay much attention.

    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    Any ideas why?
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    Hezbollah, as an example, is believed to have several enclaves in Mexico, Central America and South America. Hezbollah seems to be involved in the drug trade and in trafficking to supplement their funding requirements and to establish a networking web with other criminal elements. They generally don't engage in terrorist activity where they fund raising to avoid unnecessary attention to themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Islamic Terrorism and Organized Crime in Latin America
    In September 2011, for instance, aspiring presidential candidate Michelle Bachman raised eyebrows when she spoke out against normalizing relations with Cuba due to the alleged presence of missile sites on the Island. Former US diplomat Roger Noriega and Foreign Policy’s Jose R. Cardenas have also voiced concerns about the influence of Islamic terrorist groups, co-authoring a paper for the American Enterprise Institute entitled The Mounting Hezbollah Threat in Latin America," which singles out Venezuela as the “principle safe haven” for the Lebanese group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by What is the real threat of Islamic terrorism in Latin America?
    If the relationship between drug trafficking groups and Islamic terrorists were to evolve into longer-term strategic partnerships, perhaps involving Islamic militants working with criminal networks to organize attacks,·this is more likely to take place in the Southern Cone than in Mexico or Venezuela. The tri-border area has long been a hotspot of support for Islamic terrorist groups, owing to a large Arab immigrant community there. US government researchers have identified both Hezbollah and al-Qaeda presence in the tri-border area, and believe the zone to be “highly conducive to the establishment of sleeper cells.” The weak rule of law in the region also makes it an ideal smuggling corridor for drugs and counterfeit goods, which attracts organized criminal groups. This is a dangerous mix, and could pose a major security threat to the hemisphere, especially as Argentina continues to develop into a haven for top drug traffickers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISLAMIC TERRORISTS IN LATIN AMERICA
    A report claimed to provide further evidence that Islamic militant groups are operating in Brazil. It is reported that at least twenty people affiliated with al Qaeda, Hamas and Hezbollah, the Lebanese Shi’ite Muslim group, are operating in the country, using its infamous tri-border region with Paraguay and Argentina as a base from which to plan attacks, raise money and recruit followers. In the most detailed revelation, it was alleged that Khaled Hussein, a Lebanese man who has reportedly lived in Brazil since 1998. Is a central figure in al Qaeda’s propaganda operation and has coordinated extremists in seventeen countries.

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    There are several different flavors of Islamic Terrorists operating in Central and South America. Due to a series of US diplomatic and military failures, the US has to pay a high price for any of these countries to appear as an ally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    This is pretty easy to answer. Radical Islamic groups would be no match for the drug cartels that control much of South America. Not to mention that the Muslims wouldn't want to pay the brides necessary to do business in Latin American countries.
    Muslims do not pay their brides.

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