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    Default Why didn't Dubya protect our citizens better?

    During the Dubya years, U.S. Consulates and American military were often targets of terrorist attacks. The Bushies did little to protect them.

    http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...-benghazi-many


    2002 - June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb explodes outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.

    2003 - May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers kill 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.

    2004 - May 29–31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including 1 American.

    June 11–19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks.

    Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.

    2005 - Nov. 9, Amman, Jordan: suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility.

    Dec. 11, Algeria: more than 60 people are killed, including 11 United Nations staff members, when Al Qaeda terrorists detonate two car bombs near Algeria's Constitutional Council and the United Nations offices.

    Sept. 16, Yemen: a car bomb and a rocket strike the U.S. embassy in Yemen as staff arrived to work, killing 16 people, including 4 civilians.

    Nov. 26, India: in a series of attacks on several of Mumbai's landmarks and commercial hubs that are popular with Americans and other foreign tourists, including at least two five-star hotels, a hospital, a train station, and a cinema. About 300 people are wounded and nearly 190 people die, including at least 5 Americans

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    I love the link, the title spells it all. Obama's minions, once again looking to Bush for excuses instead of facing the reality in front of them. NOTHING THAT BUSH EVER DID would change anything Obama DIDN'T do in Benghazi. Himself and Hillary, as the superiors, ultimately should take full responsibility for these dead Americans. And rather than handle the current issue, they, and those like yourself, prefer to once again talk about the Bush years.

    In the instances provided, were there 2 months long worth of security requests made directly to the secretary of state? What was done wrong in advance, prior to these incidents? Who dropped the ball?

    I'll concede ahead of time that I would want something done about the incidents, "revenge" if that's what it's called. But we're talking about accountability for someone dropping the ball. I don't see that in any of your examples. FAIL!
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    Sure it needs to be addressed. But Republicans have made it seem like this is the first time an attack like such has ever happened.
    It has happened before and it will happen again.

    If American embassies had been better guarded over the last half century or so, Ronald Reagan would never have been elected president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Sure it needs to be addressed. But Republicans have made it seem like this is the first time an attack like such has ever happened.
    It has happened before and it will happen again.

    If American embassies had been better guarded over the last half century or so, Ronald Reagan would never have been elected president.
    Again, we're talking about the failure to answer to requests and the subsequent deaths, and then subsequent ignoring of anything involved in the situation. NONE of those examples had such failures - NONE.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Sure it needs to be addressed. But Republicans have made it seem like this is the first time an attack like such has ever happened.
    It has happened before and it will happen again.

    If American embassies had been better guarded over the last half century or so, Ronald Reagan would never have been elected president.
    Iran let the Hostages go 1 minute after Reagan was sworn in...

    They feared him...

    The Iranians laughed at Carter

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    During the Dubya years, U.S. Consulates and American military were often targets of terrorist attacks. The Bushies did little to protect them.

    http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...-benghazi-many


    2002 - June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb explodes outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.

    2003 - May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers kill 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.

    2004 - May 29–31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including 1 American.

    June 11–19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks.

    Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.

    2005 - Nov. 9, Amman, Jordan: suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility.

    Dec. 11, Algeria: more than 60 people are killed, including 11 United Nations staff members, when Al Qaeda terrorists detonate two car bombs near Algeria's Constitutional Council and the United Nations offices.

    Sept. 16, Yemen: a car bomb and a rocket strike the U.S. embassy in Yemen as staff arrived to work, killing 16 people, including 4 civilians.

    Nov. 26, India: in a series of attacks on several of Mumbai's landmarks and commercial hubs that are popular with Americans and other foreign tourists, including at least two five-star hotels, a hospital, a train station, and a cinema. About 300 people are wounded and nearly 190 people die, including at least 5 Americans

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    During the Dubya years, U.S. Consulates and American military were often targets of terrorist attacks. The Bushies did little to protect them.

    http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...-benghazi-many


    2002 - June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb explodes outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.

    2003 - May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers kill 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.

    2004 - May 29–31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including 1 American.

    June 11–19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks.

    Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.

    2005 - Nov. 9, Amman, Jordan: suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility.

    Dec. 11, Algeria: more than 60 people are killed, including 11 United Nations staff members, when Al Qaeda terrorists detonate two car bombs near Algeria's Constitutional Council and the United Nations offices.

    Sept. 16, Yemen: a car bomb and a rocket strike the U.S. embassy in Yemen as staff arrived to work, killing 16 people, including 4 civilians.

    Nov. 26, India: in a series of attacks on several of Mumbai's landmarks and commercial hubs that are popular with Americans and other foreign tourists, including at least two five-star hotels, a hospital, a train station, and a cinema. About 300 people are wounded and nearly 190 people die, including at least 5 Americans
    How many were actually Americans? And, because you are bringing up what happened during the Bush years, perhaps we should bring up what happened in the Clinton years. What say you?
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    Gabby, tell us again how well Obama and Clinton are protecting "our people" at the embassies?

    US Embassy Bombing in Turkey Was Eighth Embassy Attack During Secretary of State Clinton’s Reign

    Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, February 1, 2013, 10:21 AM

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013...lintons-reign/
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    Gabby the shameless hack and propagandist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    I love the link, the title spells it all. Obama's minions, once again looking to Bush for excuses instead of facing the reality in front of them. NOTHING THAT BUSH EVER DID would change anything Obama DIDN'T do in Benghazi. Himself and Hillary, as the superiors, ultimately should take full responsibility for these dead Americans. And rather than handle the current issue, they, and those like yourself, prefer to once again talk about the Bush years.

    In the instances provided, were there 2 months long worth of security requests made directly to the secretary of state? What was done wrong in advance, prior to these incidents? Who dropped the ball?

    I'll concede ahead of time that I would want something done about the incidents, "revenge" if that's what it's called. But we're talking about accountability for someone dropping the ball. I don't see that in any of your examples. FAIL!
    Indeed. In all of these incidents there was either an immediate and deadly attack or kidnappings. I seem to remember some rescues of kidnapped citizens, often at the cost of those that went to save them.

    The issues with Benghazi begin with the long call for additional security; then the long, drawn out attack, where nothing effective was done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Again, we're talking about the failure to answer to requests and the subsequent deaths, and then subsequent ignoring of anything involved in the situation. NONE of those examples had such failures - NONE.
    Bingo.

    I'll just add that none of those incidents occurred on the anniversary of 9/11, when security is inevitably tightened.

    Nor were any of them followed up with an orchestrated lie from the Bush administration about why the attack occurred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    If American embassies had been better guarded over the last half century or so, Ronald Reagan would never have been elected president.
    Yeah, that's why Carter was bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voted4Reagan View Post
    Iran let the Hostages go 1 minute after Reagan was sworn in...
    They feared him...
    The Iranians laughed at Carter


    The Iranians laughed at Reagan as well. Right after they concluded the Arms for Hostages deal with him. Which is why they released the hostages. It had nothing to do with "fearing" Reagan.
    Your boy Reagan negotiated a deal with Islamic extremists behind the backs of the American government. Basically paid them off to win the 1980 election. Very patriotic of him, don't you think?

    http://middleeast.about.com/od/usmid.../me081109f.htm

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    So I suppose you'll ignore my posts, and forget about the fact that you are comparing apples and oranges, and NONE NONE NONE NONE of these examples had requests made like Benghazi where McChimpy and Shrillary dropped the ball and lied about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Again, we're talking about the failure to answer to requests and the subsequent deaths, and then subsequent ignoring of anything involved in the situation. NONE of those examples had such failures - NONE.
    There has been plenty of explaining. Clinton offered all sort of responses at the hearing. Didn't satisfy all the questions, though.
    I believe that, if you go back, previous situations had plenty of failures.

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