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    Default Liberman talks to the troops...

    http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/17300884.htm
    Lieberman talks to troops in Baghdad

    BAGHDAD, Iraq - Spc. David Williams, 22, of Boston, Mass., had two note cards in his pocket Wednesday afternoon as he waited for Sen. Joseph Lieberman. Williams serves in the 82nd Airborne Division from Fort Bragg, N.C., the first of the five "surge" brigades to arrive in Iraq, and he was chosen to join the Independent from Connecticut for lunch at a U.S. field base in Baghdad.

    The night before, 30 other soldiers crowded around him with questions for the senator.

    He wrote them all down. At the top of his note card was the question he got from nearly every one of his fellow soldiers:

    "When are we going to get out of here?"

    The rest was a laundry list. When would they have upgraded Humvees that could withstand the armor-penetrating weapons that U.S. officials claim are from Iran? When could they have body armor that was better in hot weather?

    Williams missed six months of his girlfriend's pregnancy when he was given six days' notice to return to Iraq for his second tour. He also missed his baby boy's birth. Three weeks ago, he went home and saw his first child.

    "He looks just like me," he said. "I didn't want to come back. . . . We're waiting to get blown up."
    Williams wasn't sure if he'd say how he really felt. But if he could, he'd ask about body armor.

    "I don't want him to snap his fingers to get things fixed," Williams said, referring to Lieberman. "But he has influence."

    Next to him, Spc. Will Hedin, 21, of Chester, Conn., thought about what he was going to say.

    "We're not making any progress," Hedin said, as he recalled a comrade who was shot by a sniper last week. "It just seems like we drive around and wait to get shot at."

    But as he waited two chairs down from where Lieberman would sit, Hedin said he'd never voice his true feelings to the senator.

    "I think I'd be a private if I did," he joked. "It's just more troops, more targets."

    In the past two months, the unit has lost two men. In May alone, at least 120 U.S. troops died in Iraq, the bloodiest month in 2007 and the highest number since the battles of Fallujah in 2004.

    Spc. Kevin Krasco, 20, of Medford, Mass., and Spc. Kevin Adams, 20, of Moosup, Conn., chimed in with their dismay before turning the conversation to baseball.

    "It's like everything else in this war," Adams said, referring to Baghdad. "It hasn't changed."

    Then Lieberman walked in, wearing a pair of sunglasses newly purchased from an Iraqi market that the military had taken him to in southeast Baghdad. He'd been equipped with a helmet and flak vest when he toured the market, which he described as bustling.

    http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/17300884.htm


    I'm sorry, but the day has come when conservatives need to really stop talking out their asses. The troops do not support this administration, and do not agree with this war.

    They ARE THE WAR, and they understand that we should have NEVER invaded Iraq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obama08 View Post
    http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/17300884.htm
    Lieberman talks to troops in Baghdad

    BAGHDAD, Iraq - Spc. David Williams, 22, of Boston, Mass., had two note cards in his pocket Wednesday afternoon as he waited for Sen. Joseph Lieberman. Williams serves in the 82nd Airborne Division from Fort Bragg, N.C., the first of the five "surge" brigades to arrive in Iraq, and he was chosen to join the Independent from Connecticut for lunch at a U.S. field base in Baghdad.

    The night before, 30 other soldiers crowded around him with questions for the senator.

    He wrote them all down. At the top of his note card was the question he got from nearly every one of his fellow soldiers:

    "When are we going to get out of here?"

    The rest was a laundry list. When would they have upgraded Humvees that could withstand the armor-penetrating weapons that U.S. officials claim are from Iran? When could they have body armor that was better in hot weather?

    Williams missed six months of his girlfriend's pregnancy when he was given six days' notice to return to Iraq for his second tour. He also missed his baby boy's birth. Three weeks ago, he went home and saw his first child.

    "He looks just like me," he said. "I didn't want to come back. . . . We're waiting to get blown up."
    Williams wasn't sure if he'd say how he really felt. But if he could, he'd ask about body armor.

    "I don't want him to snap his fingers to get things fixed," Williams said, referring to Lieberman. "But he has influence."

    Next to him, Spc. Will Hedin, 21, of Chester, Conn., thought about what he was going to say.

    "We're not making any progress," Hedin said, as he recalled a comrade who was shot by a sniper last week. "It just seems like we drive around and wait to get shot at."

    But as he waited two chairs down from where Lieberman would sit, Hedin said he'd never voice his true feelings to the senator.

    "I think I'd be a private if I did," he joked. "It's just more troops, more targets."

    In the past two months, the unit has lost two men. In May alone, at least 120 U.S. troops died in Iraq, the bloodiest month in 2007 and the highest number since the battles of Fallujah in 2004.

    Spc. Kevin Krasco, 20, of Medford, Mass., and Spc. Kevin Adams, 20, of Moosup, Conn., chimed in with their dismay before turning the conversation to baseball.

    "It's like everything else in this war," Adams said, referring to Baghdad. "It hasn't changed."

    Then Lieberman walked in, wearing a pair of sunglasses newly purchased from an Iraqi market that the military had taken him to in southeast Baghdad. He'd been equipped with a helmet and flak vest when he toured the market, which he described as bustling.

    http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/17300884.htm


    I'm sorry, but the day has come when conservatives need to really stop talking out their asses. The troops do not support this administration, and do not agree with this war.

    They ARE THE WAR, and they understand that we should have NEVER invaded Iraq.
    isn't it strange that every time it is a republican commentary, all the troops are happy to be there, but when it is a democratic commentary, all the troops want to come home.

    Could there be something partisan about that??? HEH HEH
    Who else is as much a Bush-basher as I???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doniston View Post
    isn't it strange that every time it is a republican commentary, all the troops are happy to be there, but when it is a democratic commentary, all the troops want to come home.

    Could there be something partisan about that??? HEH HEH

    Exactly how long has it taken for you to figure that out?

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Now why on earth would the troops be upset by being put in harms way while the Democrats were denying the troops the funding they needed to actually do things and giving them the equipment they need to survive so Democrats could play political games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    Now why on earth would the troops be upset by being put in harms way while the Democrats were denying the troops the funding they needed to actually do things and giving them the equipment they need to survive so Democrats could play political games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    Now why on earth would the troops be upset by being put in harms way while the Democrats were denying the troops the funding they needed to actually do things and giving them the equipment they need to survive so Democrats could play political games?
    And another thing..
    The OP finds a few disgruntled troops out of 100,000.....and then tries to say....SEE the troops DON'T support the war.....

    Nice try..I guess......Dumb though..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obama08 View Post
    http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/17300884.htm

    ........30 other soldiers crowded around him with questions for the senator........

    .......The troops do not support this administration, and do not agree with this war. ......

    no wonder we are looooooooooooosing we only have 30 troops there.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    no wonder we are looooooooooooosing we only have 30 troops there.....
    You goof......
    that was Funny
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanie View Post
    You goof......
    that was Funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Exactly how long has it taken for you to figure that out?
    Did you notice the "HEH HEH"?
    Who else is as much a Bush-basher as I???
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    meh..some are unhappy some ain't. can't please everyone. ppl join the military and then get surprised and pissed off when they have to do something. all they wanted was college and to see the world.

    i have a friend who is going over to Iraq for his second volunteer tour

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    Amazing how Liberman gets casted aside by his own but makes astonishing new finds that seems noteworthy for the selective.

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    A family friend reupped while over on his second tour. My nephew reupped while over there on his first tour and has been over for three tours himself.

    The media is still searching all over the country for some draftees that don't want to be there. That damn volunteer army is screwing up all their attempts to make it into another Vietnam.
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    Well the bitching that soldiers do is legitamite. They should not be there patrolling streets because they are just easy targets. And they should have better state of the art armor and equipment than what they have. IMO our military should be on bases and only go out on special seek and destroy missions, not this policing shit that the Iraqis should be doing themselves. Its the policing (setting up roadblocks ect.) thats getting most of our people killed. They also need their hands untied and should be allowed to shoot to kill any threat. Although I agree with toppling Saddam this war is being mismanaged. We need a CNC with some balls thats willing to let the military destroy our enemy regardless of how much the liberals would scream about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theHawk View Post
    Well the bitching that soldiers do is legitamite. They should not be there patrolling streets because they are just easy targets. And they should have better state of the art armor and equipment than what they have. IMO our military should be on bases and only go out on special seek and destroy missions, not this policing shit that the Iraqis should be doing themselves. Its the policing (setting up roadblocks ect.) thats getting most of our people killed. They also need their hands untied and should be allowed to shoot to kill any threat. Although I agree with toppling Saddam this war is being mismanaged. We need a CNC with some balls thats willing to let the military destroy our enemy regardless of how much the liberals would scream about it.
    I would have to conclude that you are the only intelligent conservative on this board.

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