It's actually relatively simple. You can support the troops but not the mission so long as you are vocal only about the former and not the latter.
When you damn the mission, calling it illegal and immoral (which is factually incorrect, btw), you are telling the troops what they are doing is immoral and illegal.
You call THAT support?
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
I understand your point. I am just saying the troops are out there, doing a job, and I wouldn't blame them personally for the whole War ...
Please explain how I am facutally incorrect. Also, telling the troops what they are doing is immoral and illegal is being honest more than anything else. To be quite frank, no-one should have to even TELL them that ...
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Who else is as much a Bush-basher as I???
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Saddam Hussein signed a cease-fire agreement with the US that stated among other things that hostilites could be resumed if he failed to comply with its terms. So much for the legality.
You consider removing a despot from power to be immoral? They must teach different "morals" where you come from.
You call it being honest to justify to yourself doing it. The fact is, the statement "I support the troops but not the illegal and immoral war" is a contradiction in terms.
There's NO quicker way to fuck with a troop's head than to tell him/her what he/she is doing is illegal or immoral. While you sit back here being an expert on everything and thinking "I support the troops but not the illegal and immoral war" is a "Get Out of Jail Free" card, those troops are looking down the barrel of loaded weapons at other human beings in the name of their cause and their Nation, and they, not you, have to drop that hammer.
And you're calling them murderers.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
Did I say I speak for the majority? I speak from having been a fucking troop ... get THAT? I speak from being the son of Vietnam vet and watching what you dimbulbs and your lies and bullshit did to their heads, not to mention almost tearing this Nation apart even as you're trying to now.
You don't like the war? me niether. I don't like ANY war. Some peopel have to die and there's always those that have to kill them, and there's times when I'm not so sure being the former isn't better than being the latter.
When you walk a mile in my fucking combat boots and carry my fucking load, THEN you can presume to tell me what fucking troops think.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
I know people who support Dale Earnhardt Jr, they just don't think he should race.
That agreement was hardly signed on equal terms - if Saddam didn't sign the agreement, the US would never have stopped the first war. The agreement was made purely on American terms, and was not fair. Someone could put a gun to your head tomorrow and force you to give up your wallet, but that doesn't mean you want to or that the implicit agreement in giving up your wallet is in anyway legal.
I consider waging a war against another nation solely for the purpose of milking it's resources (oil) highly immoral and imperalistic.
Yes.
I disagree. In fact, it's a good way to tell the troops to voluntarily LEAVE ...
I did not claim to be an expert on anything.
It isn't anything of the sort. I am simply saying I don't believe in bashing the soldiers personally, rather, the administration and it's stupid policies.
You expect me to feel sorry? Or what? They are in a war zone - it's pretty obvious people would be pointing weapons at them ... If they don't like it, they should not have GONE in the first place.
After all, it's not Iraq invaded the US and they are simply defending their country. It's the other way around - the US is the aggressor here.
When making an absurd claim, it helps to provide a source. Where is yours?
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I suppose then you support mafia hitmen too?... oh and how about george bush, you support him too, it is his job as commander in chief and surely someone has told him it has to be done.
with people that always talk about honor and character it's amazing how anyone who believes in those things can say "their just doing their jobs"... they are, and that is my point... I quit the military because i couldn't be a mindless drone who killed on command.
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When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.
You get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you do with just a kind word.
The lies propagated by the left during those years far out do the lies of the administrations of the time. The communist supported left, aka democrats, were responsible for the debacle of Vietnam, both begining and end. They also were responsible for demonizing the military. I DO know what went on then as I lived through it. I am a combat vet and I despise the left with a passion.
When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.
You get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you do with just a kind word.