New Mod - Logroller

[fj1200]

'Only Nixon could go to China', was an 'old Vulcan proverb', according to Spock in 'Undiscovered Country'.

My inner geek required I set the record straight on that.

Oh snap. Don't know where my head was on that one.

[Drummond]

My most immediate reaction to this decision was astonishment.

Jim, I will persevere with this forum - to an extent, anyway - to see how this pans out. But I'll be honest enough to make it very clear that I see this as Aboutime does.

We shall see where this new status quo leads. And ... even FJ has made a point I can take on board (!). We do, indeed, 'live in interesting times'.

I absolutely have to say this, even if I earn censure for it ... I remain stunned by this decision.

[fj1200]

But...it's no accident that I....and possibly several other members here. Have heard the very same words spoken by others in the past.

Jim, I will persevere with this forum - to an extent, anyway - to see how this pans out. But I'll be honest enough to make it very clear that I see this as Aboutime does.

Perchance it isn't the board that was at issue. Considering all this uproar over 1 mod addition.

[jimnyc]

My most immediate reaction to this decision was astonishment.

Jim, I will persevere with this forum - to an extent, anyway - to see how this pans out. But I'll be honest enough to make it very clear that I see this as Aboutime does.

We shall see where this new status quo leads. And ... even FJ has made a point I can take on board (!). We do, indeed, 'live in interesting times'.

I absolutely have to say this, even if I earn censure for it ... I remain stunned by this decision.

Are you astonished because I made a decision that you think is harmful to the board, or because I chose someone that you don't particularly have a lot of love for?

What "I" want out of this board, and the freedoms I've afforded without crazy moderation, will NOT be changing. Even if between the worst of enemies, staff is not allowed to do anything I wouldn't do myself. To put it bluntly, I have ideas of where I would like to see the board go and how I would want it ran - and staff is an extension of that, to basically do what I would do.

People have been telling me for 10 years now how my patience and dedication to freedom of speech won't last. But it has. And it's not going to change. The day I become overbearing and more interested in moderating than provoking good discussion, I'll sell off or give the board away.

If I thought for a NYC second that Logroller would ever moderate unfairly, I wouldn't have asked him to come aboard. With that said, it can't fail. For starters, I wouldn't allow it too, as I love this place and will always stick to my principles. Secondly, and more important, give him a chance outside of a debate to see how he moderates. He's proved his fairness and maturity to me for a few years. Being polar opposites on some heated topics doesn't mean you guys can't agree on what is best for the board.

[aboutime]

Actually. I'm prepared for Gabby to be announced as the next Mod.

I've seen this kind of stuff before. Nothing new. Guess Jim will just have to learn the hard way.

[jimnyc]

Actually. I'm prepared for Gabby to be announced as the next Mod.

I've seen this kind of stuff before. Nothing new. Guess Jim will just have to learn the hard way.

What is the WORST case scenario? I think that would be a moderator banning people for no reason at all. Or even moderating regularly for no reason at all. A moderator running wild.

But this won't happen. I have every bit of faith in Logroller and am more than extremely confident that he will be fair in moderating. I can also personally assure everyone that this board would never turn in that manner and it simply won't be happening.

I understand there might be bad blood between a few. But hell, I don't think he even reported others posts, and certainly never got overtly personal with others. I see absolutely no reason to believe that this will change now. I give my guarantees as I know personally I would never allow unfairness to take over here, and I think Log and the rest of staff will echo me in saying that this isn't an interest of staff. Our sole interest is helping the board grow and get better.

Judge my decisions should you want to, I'm used to it, but at least give Logroller a chance to moderate for awhile before judging.

[aboutime]

What is the WORST case scenario? I think that would be a moderator banning people for no reason at all. Or even moderating regularly for no reason at all. A moderator running wild.

But this won't happen. I have every bit of faith in Logroller and am more than extremely confident that he will be fair in moderating. I can also personally assure everyone that this board would never turn in that manner and it simply won't be happening.

I understand there might be bad blood between a few. But hell, I don't think he even reported others posts, and certainly never got overtly personal with others. I see absolutely no reason to believe that this will change now. I give my guarantees as I know personally I would never allow unfairness to take over here, and I think Log and the rest of staff will echo me in saying that this isn't an interest of staff. Our sole interest is helping the board grow and get better.

Judge my decisions should you want to, I'm used to it, but at least give Logroller a chance to moderate for awhile before judging.

I fully understand what you are saying Jim. Not trying to diminish your decisions here in any way.
But...it's no accident that I....and possibly several other members here. Have heard the very same words spoken by others in the past.
We were given all the same reassurances. Then... You'll see.
POLITICS and Internet Forums are so similar. GOOD LUCK.

[Marcus Aurelius]

What is the WORST case scenario? I think that would be a moderator banning people for no reason at all. Or even moderating regularly for no reason at all. A moderator running wild.

But this won't happen. I have every bit of faith in Logroller and am more than extremely confident that he will be fair in moderating. I can also personally assure everyone that this board would never turn in that manner and it simply won't be happening.

I understand there might be bad blood between a few. But hell, I don't think he even reported others posts, and certainly never got overtly personal with others. I see absolutely no reason to believe that this will change now. I give my guarantees as I know personally I would never allow unfairness to take over here, and I think Log and the rest of staff will echo me in saying that this isn't an interest of staff. Our sole interest is helping the board grow and get better.

Judge my decisions should you want to, I'm used to it, but at least give Logroller a chance to moderate for awhile before judging.

any unfair (opinion of coures) bannings by anyone can by appealed to Jim directly. it's his board. if he thinks someone oversteps, he'll say so.

[Bbcoop]

Just accepted Log's invitation to join DP. I will try and be a testament to his ability to be moderator. Libertarian, him... That's funny! I guess I would say that he believes in the doctrine of free will part of the definition, but he's no omniscient.

[Kathianne]

Just accepted Log's invitation to join DP. I will try and be a testament to his ability to be moderator. Libertarian, him... That's funny! I guess I would say that he believes in the doctrine of free will part of the definition, but he's no omniscient.

Welcome!

[revelarts]

Just accepted Log's invitation to join DP. I will try and be a testament to his ability to be moderator. Libertarian, him... That's funny! I guess I would say that he believes in the doctrine of free will part of the definition, but he's no omniscient.

Welcome BBcoop!

do you know anything about terraforming by chance?

[Drummond]

Just accepted Log's invitation to join DP. I will try and be a testament to his ability to be moderator. Libertarian, him... That's funny! I guess I would say that he believes in the doctrine of free will part of the definition, but he's no omniscient.

Hello, Bbcoop - welcome. Hope you enjoy the forum.

I see that you say you've accepted Logroller's invitation to join this forum ? Interesting.

What would you say particularly recommended the invitation ? Are you and he friends ? Comrades ? Do you know each other from other forums or mutual interests ?

[jimnyc]

Just accepted Log's invitation to join DP. I will try and be a testament to his ability to be moderator. Libertarian, him... That's funny! I guess I would say that he believes in the doctrine of free will part of the definition, but he's no omniscient.

Welcome, Coop! I was going to call you BB, but we have a BillyBob here and I would be confused. Or maybe I can type out the entire 6 characters?

Welcome to DP

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Hey, hey what is the beef here? So log is a mod now. Its not like godhood will be bestowed upon him. He is still the same guy and still wrong about so many issues. I must admit to taking a couple days to see how things would change but Jim gives his word it will not suddenly become a Gestapo party around here,

so bat 'er up lets play ball!!

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Log, you still need my old dog teachings so I've decided to continue my education process that I began so generously in the recent past.---Tyr