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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    What is the WORST case scenario? I think that would be a moderator banning people for no reason at all. Or even moderating regularly for no reason at all. A moderator running wild.

    But this won't happen. I have every bit of faith in Logroller and am more than extremely confident that he will be fair in moderating. I can also personally assure everyone that this board would never turn in that manner and it simply won't be happening.

    I understand there might be bad blood between a few. But hell, I don't think he even reported others posts, and certainly never got overtly personal with others. I see absolutely no reason to believe that this will change now. I give my guarantees as I know personally I would never allow unfairness to take over here, and I think Log and the rest of staff will echo me in saying that this isn't an interest of staff. Our sole interest is helping the board grow and get better.

    Judge my decisions should you want to, I'm used to it, but at least give Logroller a chance to moderate for awhile before judging.

    I fully understand what you are saying Jim. Not trying to diminish your decisions here in any way.
    But...it's no accident that I....and possibly several other members here. Have heard the very same words spoken by others in the past.
    We were given all the same reassurances. Then... You'll see.
    POLITICS and Internet Forums are so similar. GOOD LUCK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderknuckles View Post
    Good choice Jim. Logroller is solid and has his head screwed on straight.
    Congrats/Condolences to Logroller!




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    Welcome, Logroller.
    Is everything your fault yet?
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius View Post
    'Only Nixon could go to China', was an 'old Vulcan proverb', according to Spock in 'Undiscovered Country'.

    My inner geek required I set the record straight on that.
    Oh snap. Don't know where my head was on that one.
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    My most immediate reaction to this decision was astonishment.

    Jim, I will persevere with this forum - to an extent, anyway - to see how this pans out. But I'll be honest enough to make it very clear that I see this as Aboutime does.

    We shall see where this new status quo leads. And ... even FJ has made a point I can take on board (!). We do, indeed, 'live in interesting times'.

    I absolutely have to say this, even if I earn censure for it ... I remain stunned by this decision.
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    But...it's no accident that I....and possibly several other members here. Have heard the very same words spoken by others in the past.
    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Jim, I will persevere with this forum - to an extent, anyway - to see how this pans out. But I'll be honest enough to make it very clear that I see this as Aboutime does.
    Perchance it isn't the board that was at issue. Considering all this uproar over 1 mod addition.
    Last edited by fj1200; 05-31-2013 at 03:03 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    What is the WORST case scenario? I think that would be a moderator banning people for no reason at all. Or even moderating regularly for no reason at all. A moderator running wild.

    But this won't happen. I have every bit of faith in Logroller and am more than extremely confident that he will be fair in moderating. I can also personally assure everyone that this board would never turn in that manner and it simply won't be happening.

    I understand there might be bad blood between a few. But hell, I don't think he even reported others posts, and certainly never got overtly personal with others. I see absolutely no reason to believe that this will change now. I give my guarantees as I know personally I would never allow unfairness to take over here, and I think Log and the rest of staff will echo me in saying that this isn't an interest of staff. Our sole interest is helping the board grow and get better.

    Judge my decisions should you want to, I'm used to it, but at least give Logroller a chance to moderate for awhile before judging.
    any unfair (opinion of coures) bannings by anyone can by appealed to Jim directly. it's his board. if he thinks someone oversteps, he'll say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Perchance it isn't the board that was at issue.
    OK, I'll bite.

    What - exactly - do you mean ?
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    OK, I'll bite.

    What - exactly - do you mean ?
    Sorry, my edit to the above post.

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Considering all this uproar over 1 mod addition.
    What other parties are involved?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Sorry, my edit to the above post.



    What other parties are involved?
    Your reply is far from clear. And besides, what does the number of mods have to do with anything ? If this forum had one more mod, or ten, why would that matter ?
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    the end result is that it is Jim's board. Not mine, yours, or anyone elses.

    If Jim chooses to add 50 mods, his board.

    If Jim chooses to shut the board down, his board.

    No amount of whining, bitching, moaning, pleading, begging, or posting can change the over-riding fact... it is JIM'S BOARD, AND HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE PLEASES WITH IT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    My most immediate reaction to this decision was astonishment.

    Jim, I will persevere with this forum - to an extent, anyway - to see how this pans out. But I'll be honest enough to make it very clear that I see this as Aboutime does.

    We shall see where this new status quo leads. And ... even FJ has made a point I can take on board (!). We do, indeed, 'live in interesting times'.

    I absolutely have to say this, even if I earn censure for it ... I remain stunned by this decision.
    Are you astonished because I made a decision that you think is harmful to the board, or because I chose someone that you don't particularly have a lot of love for?

    What "I" want out of this board, and the freedoms I've afforded without crazy moderation, will NOT be changing. Even if between the worst of enemies, staff is not allowed to do anything I wouldn't do myself. To put it bluntly, I have ideas of where I would like to see the board go and how I would want it ran - and staff is an extension of that, to basically do what I would do.

    People have been telling me for 10 years now how my patience and dedication to freedom of speech won't last. But it has. And it's not going to change. The day I become overbearing and more interested in moderating than provoking good discussion, I'll sell off or give the board away.

    If I thought for a NYC second that Logroller would ever moderate unfairly, I wouldn't have asked him to come aboard. With that said, it can't fail. For starters, I wouldn't allow it too, as I love this place and will always stick to my principles. Secondly, and more important, give him a chance outside of a debate to see how he moderates. He's proved his fairness and maturity to me for a few years. Being polar opposites on some heated topics doesn't mean you guys can't agree on what is best for the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Your reply is far from clear. And besides, what does the number of mods have to do with anything ? If this forum had one more mod, or ten, why would that matter ?
    The number of mods doesn't matter, a big deal is being made over this particular addition that wasn't made over another recent additions. Unfounded, IMO, speculative statements are being made.
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    Damn, I didn't know some people had issues with logroller?
    Always seemed like a straight shooter to me. He's always been civil even in disagreement - at least with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderknuckles View Post
    Damn, I didn't know some people had issues with logroller?
    Always seemed like a straight shooter to me. He's always been civil even in disagreement - at least with me.
    I'm sure we all have a few people that wouldn't mind if we tripped and hit our heads! Believe it or not, I think there are a few here that don't particularly care for me. Yeah, I know, I know, but it's true! And the best part is, although I think a handful of them hate me, they are still more than free to post here and have fun.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius View Post
    the end result is that it is Jim's board. Not mine, yours, or anyone elses.

    If Jim chooses to add 50 mods, his board.

    If Jim chooses to shut the board down, his board.

    No amount of whining, bitching, moaning, pleading, begging, or posting can change the over-riding fact... it is JIM'S BOARD, AND HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE PLEASES WITH IT.

    Absolutely. Don't think anyone disagree's with that.
    This should be Jim's theme music for this forum.
    Just a little humor....
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !

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