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    Default Muslim Prayer Coming to a School Near You

    How disgusting is this , you cant say a Christian prayer in school but I guess its ok for our kids to pray to a child molester


    http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2013/20130530003-muslim-prayer-


    But then again this is in DC , I am sure the land of fruits and nuts will follow shortly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    How disgusting is this , you cant say a Christian prayer in school but I guess its ok for our kids to pray to a child molester


    http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2013/20130530003-muslim-prayer-


    But then again this is in DC , I am sure the land of fruits and nuts will follow shortly
    Christian children can indeed pray in school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Christian children can indeed pray in school.
    Are they "accommodated" and excused from class in order to do so? I've yet to see any schools allow Christians to do so. As far as I know, they are allowed to pray so long as they do it silently and to themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Are they "accommodated" and excused from class in order to do so? I've yet to see any schools allow Christians to do so. As far as I know, they are allowed to pray so long as they do it silently and to themselves.
    The prayer requirements for Christians doesn't involve a rug and facing toward Mecca. Allowing the Muslims to leave the classroom to attend to their prayers prevents disruption for the remaining students.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post

    The prayer requirements for Christians doesn't involve a rug and facing toward Mecca. Allowing the Muslims to leave the classroom to attend to their prayers prevents disruption for the remaining students.
    And why do they have to pray during class time? How about causing no disruption at all by praying during none-class time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    And why do they have to pray during class time? How about causing no disruption at all by praying during none-class time?
    I agree, but some will say because Muslims have specific times to pray 5 times per day. I don't care if their religion calls for this or not, it's still the school accommodating their religious beliefs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    And why do they have to pray during class time? How about causing no disruption at all by praying during none-class time?

    Because muslims are special.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    The prayer requirements for Christians doesn't involve a rug and facing toward Mecca. Allowing the Muslims to leave the classroom to attend to their prayers prevents disruption for the remaining students.
    What if they simply want privacy during the day to do their prayers? An accommodation for one religion and not another, is favoring one. Either give equal access and accommodations, or none for any. The fact that some scream and whine about a Catholic prayer in school, and then defending Muslims getting out of class to have a prayer rug and able to face Mecca, is kind of funny. The reason always given is that prayer shouldn't be in school, but somehow it's acceptable for Muslims AND acceptable to get out of class for the prayer no less? Christians like the group prayer, the way it used to be. The schools should allow for the Christians to meet somewhere in the early morning hours and have a group prayer, which is and used to be quite popular at events, and school.

    But ANY exception to one religion, and not all, is simply favoritism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    What if they simply want privacy during the day to do their prayers? An accommodation for one religion and not another, is favoring one. Either give equal access and accommodations, or none for any. The fact that some scream and whine about a Catholic prayer in school, and then defending Muslims getting out of class to have a prayer rug and able to face Mecca, is kind of funny. The reason always given is that prayer shouldn't be in school, but somehow it's acceptable for Muslims AND acceptable to get out of class for the prayer no less? Christians like the group prayer, the way it used to be. The schools should allow for the Christians to meet somewhere in the early morning hours and have a group prayer, which is and used to be quite popular at events, and school.

    But ANY exception to one religion, and not all, is simply favoritism.
    Where are all the libtard whiners who claimed Christian prayer in school is a violation of the separation of church and state? Where is the ACLU to come in and rattle their sabers at Islamic prayer in schools?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    The prayer requirements for Christians doesn't involve a rug and facing toward Mecca. Allowing the Muslims to leave the classroom to attend to their prayers prevents disruption for the remaining students.
    What if other children walk by and see those children praying?! Gasp! Surely as much a violation of the so-called "separation of church and state" as a nativity in the town square, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    What if other children walk by and see those children praying?! Gasp! Surely as much a violation of the so-called "separation of church and state" as a nativity in the town square, no?
    And since the article doesn't say Catholics can't pray, so we assume they can, the school won't mind of course when the Christian kids get on bended knee and fold their hands right their in class, so long as they pray to themselves, then give the sign of the cross. Since that would/should be allowed, then I would say the Muslim kids should certainly be allowed to pray as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    What if other children walk by and see those children praying?! Gasp! Surely as much a violation of the so-called "separation of church and state" as a nativity in the town square, no?
    Or a solstice festival.
    I prayed at school. My kids pray at school. Admittedly I have been blessed to live in a more affluent neighborhood, and I'm thinking such animosity is fed to some degree by socioeconomic challenges. Re: OP, it's in DC and the one standard I saw mentioned was that the kid needed to have high grades and the suggestion was it inspired those who wished to pray to raise their grades. IMO, the idea that religious expression is used as a carrot is problematic. I have no issue with extracurriculars being contingent upon academic/behavioral performance; but should prayer be treated as an extracurricular activity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    What if other children walk by and see those children praying?! Gasp! Surely as much a violation of the so-called "separation of church and state" as a nativity in the town square, no?
    Nope. As I stated earlier, there's a difference between praying IN school and praying AT school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Christian children can indeed pray in school.

    My kids in grammar school where told they couldn't bless there food before eating , but yes after I went to the school and explained they will bless there food they where then allowed to do so
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post

    My kids in grammar school where told they couldn't bless there food before eating , but yes after I went to the school and explained they will bless there food they where then allowed to do so
    They were unable to 'bless their food' without speaking out loud?
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