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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    And why do they have to pray during class time? How about causing no disruption at all by praying during none-class time?

    Because muslims are special.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    They're meant to pray before sunrise, after mid-day, late afternoon, just after sunset, and between sunset and midnight.

    Only one of those, midday, falls under school time, and thats probably around the time they have their lunch.
    And considering this would be one of the only public schools in the nation affording this accommodation, it's already been shown that tons and tons of kids have been doing just fine negotiating their Muslim prayers up until now. But again, the bottom line is that if you are going to fight to keep prayers out of the classroom, fight to keep prayers out of speeches, out of games, out of graduations - then you don't turn around and give an accommodation to a different religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Christian children can indeed pray in school.

    My kids in grammar school where told they couldn't bless there food before eating , but yes after I went to the school and explained they will bless there food they where then allowed to do so
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post

    My kids in grammar school where told they couldn't bless there food before eating , but yes after I went to the school and explained they will bless there food they where then allowed to do so
    They were unable to 'bless their food' without speaking out loud?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Let's look at it this way - suppose other recognized religions now talk about what their religion expects of them, or that they have requirements - they too should then get similar accommodations, no? So long as it's a legit religion. I know of a few religious organizations that have group prayer several times per day several times per week. Give these people time out of classes to go the lunchroom or conference room or auditorium in order to have their group prayers. Or will this not be allowed, or perhaps told it's not something they need, because their prayer will revolve around Jesus?
    Do you mean Scientologists shouldn't be allowed to pass bad checks at the school cafeteria?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    They were unable to 'bless their food' without speaking out loud?

    No they blessed there food to themselves with there eyes closed a simple thank you and a hope that it helps give them nourishment and they where told they where not allowed to pray in school , when I went down to the school they said it may offend other children , I asked how is it going to offend another if my boys have there eyes closed for 30 seconds , they finally gave in on that issue and yes my boys do give thanks at every meal including the one at school
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    They were unable to 'bless their food' without speaking out loud?
    You mean to say they SHOULDN'T speak their prayers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob View Post

    You mean to say they SHOULDN'T speak their prayers?
    It would be more polite to do so inwardly imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    It would be more polite to do so inwardly imo.

    OK, as long as schools are consistent. That's the biggest issue here, from what I can see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    What if they simply want privacy during the day to do their prayers? An accommodation for one religion and not another, is favoring one. Either give equal access and accommodations, or none for any. The fact that some scream and whine about a Catholic prayer in school, and then defending Muslims getting out of class to have a prayer rug and able to face Mecca, is kind of funny. The reason always given is that prayer shouldn't be in school, but somehow it's acceptable for Muslims AND acceptable to get out of class for the prayer no less? Christians like the group prayer, the way it used to be. The schools should allow for the Christians to meet somewhere in the early morning hours and have a group prayer, which is and used to be quite popular at events, and school.

    But ANY exception to one religion, and not all, is simply favoritism.
    Where are all the libtard whiners who claimed Christian prayer in school is a violation of the separation of church and state? Where is the ACLU to come in and rattle their sabers at Islamic prayer in schools?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    We have special plans for your type.

    Hell, havent you ever considered that I may have special plans myself?


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob View Post
    Because muslims are special .
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    I can't believe some of you believe it is a bad thing. Kids who are praying are going to be well centred and well behaved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jafar00 View Post
    I can't believe some of you believe it is a bad thing. Kids who are praying are going to be well centred and well behaved.
    Most of us believe it is good, and would like for Christian prayer in schools too, but it's not allowed. It's equality we're speaking of here, if you accommodate and allow one, simply allow others the same/equivalent. I've got no issue if they allow Muslim kids a chance to pray - as soon as they allow Catholics/Christians equal opportunities/accommodations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jafar00 View Post
    I can't believe some of you believe it is a bad thing. Kids who are praying are going to be well centred and well behaved.

    Oh really? Do these jihadists don't seem to be centered or well behaved?


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