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High Court invalidates Defense of Marriage Act
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A very narrow ruling by the court that is going to set up some nasty battles at the state level.
Essentially the court ruled that marriage is a state's rights issue. If a state says gay marriage is legal, the federal government will recognize it. However, if a state rules gay marriage illegal, then the federal government may not recognize it.
Overall, I think it was a good call because I'm a state's right kinda guy, but you can see the looming legal battles that will be fought among states that have not legalized gay marriage.
We will see this issue coming back to the Supreme Court sometime in the future and I suspect that at that point they will make a more general ruling and call gay marriage the law of the land to put an end to the issue once and for all.
As for mine and Gabby's state of California, the fight is over with the court's ruling on prop 8. Gay marriage is now legal in California whether you like it or not.
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Thunderknuckles, you make some good points. Despite what anyone thinks of gay marriage, it should be a personal choice. The government needs to get out of the business of telling ADULTS (over the age of 18) what they can do. Notice I said ADULTS. Not children, not animals, not refrigerators. Two consenting adults.
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To be clear, I'm personally against gay marriage but ultimately I have to agree with you.Originally Posted by gabosaurus
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Oh well, we have to, unfortunately, stand by what the SCOTUS decides. But hopefully now we'll see battles in the states, and hopefully the states will let the people decide and not politicians and activists. Thing is, if the people even do get to decide, then those against it will further push for the courts to decide.
Like I said a long, long time ago though, they really didn't "win" anything today. While I'm sure there is celebrating over the ability to get married, or to receive federal benefits, their true goal is to be accepted as equals, not just to receive benefits. Nothing has changed in that respect. Those supporting queers and gay marriage likely still feel the same way. Those opposed likely still feel the same way. But for those that simply wanted benefits, I do congratulate them.
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You..... dumbass!!!
According to the linked article, they did not rule DOMA in it's entirety unconstitutional.
Not sure what else is in there that really matters in this, but the onlt part that was struck down was the denial of benefits to married same-sex couples.The Supreme Court struck down a key part of the federal Defense of Marriage Act on Wednesday and declared that same-sex couples who are legally married deserve equal rights to the benefits under federal law that go to all other married couples.
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I thought Doma had a provision for other states not beig required to recognize other states' same-sex marriages. Seems odd that would stand though, privileges and immunities.
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True. Seems like it denies equal protection when one couple is looked at differently, Federally speaking, than other couples whose only difference is state of residence.
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According to Liberals, Democrats, Progressives, Gays and Lesbians. This is all Good!
Will they now just shut up, and let the rest of us alone?
I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
So, this is for them.
GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !
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How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
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Libs like Chris Matthews were gushing over Obama yesterday - not that this is anything new. But libs like Chris do like to take their assessments of Obama to new heights of hyberbole
How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
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Yeah, this is about how I figured it was gonna go for the ruling, with the Scotus kicking it back to a states' rights issue. Sure, there are going to be challenges and legal fights, but that was gonna happen regardless.
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Bottom lin is gays could not accomplish what they wanted at the ballot box so they have to get what they want via judicial activism
How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
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Leave it to Chris Matthews to compare a fellow liberal to a criminal who was hanged fro his crimes and play the slavery card all in one diatribe
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How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
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Educate man, Liberate man
Pardon my language here but....Matthews is nothing but a pure SHIT HEAD!
I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
So, this is for them.
GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !
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