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    Default Chris Christie, America's most overrated governor

    Seems things are not so great in NJ after all. If he seeks the nomination in 2016 he will have a lot of spinning to do


    Yes, he’s a skilled politician and a talented deal-maker who, for his first two years in office, got nearly everything he wanted from the Democratic Legislature.

    But it hasn’t worked. New Jersey’s economy is a mess, even compared with its neighbors. The property tax burden is up sharply. Poverty is rising. And the state’s credit rating has dropped on Christie’s watch as the long-range outlook deteriorates. His successor will inherit a bigger mess than he did.

    Crime is spiking in several of New Jersey’s hard-pressed cities, where loss of state aid has forced massive police layoffs. The state’s home foreclosure rate is the second highest in the nation and Christie fumbled a federal aid program intended to soften the blow. Yet he tried to raid a fund earmarked for affordable housing until the courts stopped him.

    The list goes on. The state’s open space program is essentially dead, with no money and no ideas from the governor on how to fix it. The transportation trust fund is broke as well, so the governor has financed projects mostly by borrowing and by scavenging money that former Gov. Jon Corzine had set aside for the Hudson River tunnel project, which Christie canceled.

    Could he turn this around in a second term? Maybe. But it’s not likely because he’s moving rightward to appeal to voters in the 2016 presidential primaries, shrinking the common ground with Democrats. Christie hasn’t discussed his agenda for a second term, but the era of big bipartisan deals in Trenton may be over.


    http://blog.nj.com/njv_tom_moran/2013/09/post_13.html


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    If he were to run for pres in 2016, there is no way the (R)'s will win the presidency. He is a sham and unelectable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    If he were to run for pres in 2016, there is no way the (R)'s will win the presidency. He is a sham and unelectable.
    Unfortunately, I don't see ANY viable candidates on the republican side as of yet. And all I see on the democrat side is Shrillary and Biden, both potential nightmares, but a nightmare that Shrillary would likely win. Oh my, good times to look forward to.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    If the (R)'s dropped a lot of their social issue stuff from the plank and shifted to saying (when asked about them) they were states rights issues, they'd probably do better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    If the (R)'s dropped a lot of their social issue stuff from the plank and shifted to saying (when asked about them) they were states rights issues, they'd probably do better.
    Oh yea - forget what they stand for - and become Dem light

    That worked well for the party in 2008 and 2012


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Oh yea - forget what they stand for - and become Dem light
    That's not what they did in 2008 and 2012, in those years they kept on about social issues and turned away voters. They do in in 2016, they will lose again.

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    How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Unfortunately, I don't see ANY viable candidates on the republican side as of yet. And all I see on the democrat side is Shrillary and Biden, both potential nightmares, but a nightmare that Shrillary would likely win. Oh my, good times to look forward to.

    I agree. I never in a million years thought I would ever say this, but there's a good chance I won't be voting. I am sick and tired of holding my nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    I agree. I never in a million years thought I would ever say this, but there's a good chance I won't be voting. I am sick and tired of holding my nose.
    You know damn well no matter who the Dems nominate, the liberal media will give non-stop glowing coverage of him/her

    While trashing who ever the R's put up

    It will just as bad - if not worse - then the 2012 election


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    You know damn well no matter who the Dems nominate, the liberal media will give non-stop glowing coverage of him/her

    While trashing who ever the R's put up

    It will just as bad - if not worse - then the 2012 election

    Yep. That's exactly how it will be. I am disgusted, and way discouraged with it all....especially the way the country has gone down in the last few years.
    It will only get worse.

    Gosh I hate to sound like a negative person....but it is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    Yep. That's exactly how it will be. I am disgusted, and way discouraged with it all....especially the way the country has gone down in the last few years.
    It will only get worse.

    Gosh I hate to sound like a negative person....but it is what it is.
    It is not negative if you are telling the truth\

    Journalism died in 2012

    Dems want to increase the number of people dependent on government. They also want to make the millions of illegals their next big voting block

    and we are simply supposed to stand on the sidelines and do/say nothing


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    It is not negative if you are telling the truth\

    Journalism died in 2012

    Dems want to increase the number of people dependent on government. They also want to make the millions of illegals their next big voting block

    and we are simply supposed to stand on the sidelines and do/say nothing


    Agreed, and there doesn't see to be a thing ''we the people'' can do to stop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    Agreed, and there doesn't see to be a thing ''we the people'' can do to stop it.
    Sure there is. We vote

    $ million R's stayed home in 2012 and 3 million Dems did the same

    Perhaps if we got everyone to turn out we would not be facing 3 more years of hope and change


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Sure there is. We vote

    $ million R's stayed home in 2012 and 3 million Dems did the same

    Perhaps if we got everyone to turn out we would not be facing 3 more years of hope and change

    See told ya I was feeling negative. I don't think it will be any different next round. I can't name one person I am willing to vote for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    See told ya I was feeling negative. I don't think it will be any different next round. I can't name one person I am willing to vote for.
    Ditto but could the person we put up be worse then Hillary and Biden?


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