West Point men become first to marry at academy

[Jeff]

I sat here reading this and just couldn't feel right about it, IMO this stuff is making our military look like clowns ( we are more interested in being politically correct than we are in being the #1 military in the world)

Two graduates of West Point became the first men to marry each other at the military academy when Larry Choate III married Daniel Lennox Saturday afternoon at the U.S. Military Academy’s Cadet Chapel.
Both men are out of the Army and both wore tuxedoes for the ceremony. About 20 guests attended, some in uniform. There have been two previous gay marriages performed at the Cadet Chapel but they involved females.

http://allenbwest.com/2013/11/west-p...YSTZQ9vm30W.99

[fj1200]

( we are more interested in being politically correct than we are in being the #1 military in the world)

One doesn't preclude the other.

[Missileman]

One doesn't preclude the other.

Everybody knows gays don't shoot "straight"!

[jimnyc]

[fj1200]

Everybody knows gays don't shoot "straight"!

But that's a good thing right?

[Arbo]

One doesn't preclude the other.

That some think that is interesting, but of more interest is the simple homophobia behind the 'outrage' of this story.

[aboutime]

Both are....thankfully, out of the Army. But the Obama plans to slowly, and deliberately destroy our Military cannot be denied.

Another FLAG OFFICER has been fired by Obama.

And, take note. I did not say BOTH MEN are....thankfully out of the Army.

I await the politically correct, new definitions of MEN, compared to WUSS'S.

Like the "W-USS" Navy, Army, Air Force, Marines, and Coast Guard, Obama Forces.

Any questions. "We must now observe, and follow the Obama Removal of D.A.D.T."

[jimnyc]

That some think that is interesting, but of more interest is the simple homophobia behind the 'outrage' of this story.

You might be able to make an argument for people being outraged over something like this when it perhaps isn't something worthy of being outraged over. With that said, save the "homophobia" term meant to vilify those against homosexuality. I don't know of anyone myself that has any type of fear over homosexuality or gay marriage. There is no fear here, only disgust, disagreement and differences. Twisting a term like this to suit ones own agenda was wrong and transparent on day one and remains so today.

You can call me "anti gay marriage" maybe. Or one who disagrees with homosexuality. But you would be wrong if you stated or implied that there was any type of fear at all involved. Using terms like that is like when liberals refer to those in the tea party as "teabaggers". It's a label only meant to degrade the opponent or person who disagrees.

[Arbo]

You might be able to make an argument for people being outraged over something like this when it perhaps isn't something worthy of being outraged over. With that said, save the "homophobia" term meant to vilify those against homosexuality. I don't know of anyone myself that has any type of fear over homosexuality or gay marriage. There is no fear here, only disgust, disagreement and differences. Twisting a term like this to suit ones own agenda was wrong and transparent on day one and remains so today.

You can call me "anti gay marriage" maybe. Or one who disagrees with homosexuality. But you would be wrong if you stated or implied that there was any type of fear at all involved. Using terms like that is like when liberals refer to those in the tea party as "teabaggers". It's a label only meant to degrade the opponent or person who disagrees.

Considering you defended the term 'queers' as if it was not being used in a derogatory manner, that it was just fine… well…

As for you saying that this is worthy of being outraged over. OMG, two guys got married! They served there country and it is outrageous they would ever be free to do such a thing.

[jimnyc]

Considering you defended the term 'queers' as if it was not being used in a derogatory manner, that it was just fine… well…

As for you saying that this is worthy of being outraged over. OMG, two guys got married! They served there country and it is outrageous they would ever be free to do such a thing.

So somehow out of that you figure I have some sort of fear about gay people? You're calling people names that are factually inaccurate. It's obvious that it's more the person not liking another members position on an issue, so they label them as homophobic as a result. Someone disagreeing with homosexuality and/or gay marriage comes nowhere in the same universe as meaning they therefore are afraid of either.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

So somehow out of that you figure I have some sort of fear about gay people? You're calling people names that are factually inaccurate. It's obvious that it's more the person not liking another members position on an issue, so they label them as homophobic as a result. Someone disagreeing with homosexuality and/or gay marriage comes nowhere in the same universe as meaning they therefore are afraid of either.

Jim, those that defend and want gay marriage to be viewed as normal are messed up cases themselves! Two guys butt banging ain't never going to be ok with any decent human being . When face to face with such indecent minded jacknaps I get to put 'em in their place. This agenda to force we that know (what an evil perversion and sickass insanity it is) to accept it as normal is itself a damn perversion!! About 9 years ago one of my good friends came over to my home for a visit and brought a friend from work with him. After about twenty minutes I knew the guy was gay. I called my buddy into the kitchen away from his new friend and asked him if he knew the dude was gay. He replied ,yes but he is a cool guy. I then told my friend, leave take your perverted friend with you because I do not allow such scum as that in my home. Should you ever come here to visit me again and bring such as that into my home I'll break you like a damn twig! Now its not a damn matter of being scared of gays. Its a matter of not wanting to be embracing or associating with such perversion. They have not made the damn man that I am afraid because I learned a long time ago this from my dad. "If you are going to be man enough to deliver a damn good ass stomping you had better be man enough to carry one. Because sure as hell there is always a man that can give you one no matter how damn tough you are!" From that principle comes the this, don't worry about the consequences if it comes time to beat a man's ass . Just do what is required and face the music later. So when some loon tries to say I am homophobic I laugh because that person hasn't a damn clue what being a real man is.. I allow no such perversion around me or mine. No force on earth can force me to view that crap as normal. I pity any that give it a serious try.. --Tyr

[Arbo]

Jim, those that defend and want gay marriage to be viewed as normal are messed up cases themselves! Two guys butt banging ain't never going to be ok with any decent human being .

Not only are children more tolerant than you, they are more intelligent. How civil of you to suggest todays youth are not 'decent' human beings. Real classy. Thankfully ignorant dinosaurs like yourself won't be around much longer.

The world won't miss such people when gone.

You serious are part of the problem in this world… you are just like Islamists and Communists that stand against gay's. Not a bit of difference. Yes, you are just like those you hate. I irony is indeed sweet.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

WHY DONT THE JACKNAPS THAT SUPPORT IT EVER EXPLAIN HOW THE SEX ACTS ENGAGED IN BY GAYS ARE NORMAL, ARE SAFE AND/OR ARE SANITARY!?? OR DO THOSE (GUYS) THAT SUPPORT GAYS SO DAMN MUCH VIEW THEM AS GOOD AND MAYBE LIKE TO FANTASIZE ABOUT BEING A WILLING RECEPTICLE FOR THE GAY ACTIVITIES? One has to wonder why so many supposedly straight men are so ardent and committed in their feverish support .. I bet some of those supporters are just fantasizing ....... the poor weak minded fools. Even if some of them had a job that fostered that crap it's still no excuse IMHO.. --Tyr

[fj1200]

WHY DONT THE JACKNAPS...

Actually I think it's up to the other jacknaps to explain the state's compelling interest in denying privileges to some that they grant to others.

[aboutime]

WHY DONT THE JACKNAPS THAT SUPPORT IT EVER EXPLAIN HOW THE SEX ACTS ENGAGED IN BY GAYS ARE NORMAL, ARE SAFE AND/OR ARE SANITARY!?? OR DO THOSE (GUYS) THAT SUPPORT GAYS SO DAMN MUCH VIEW THEM AS GOOD AND MAYBE LIKE TO FANTASIZE ABOUT BEING A WILLING RECEPTICLE FOR THE GAY ACTIVITIES? One has to wonder why so many supposedly straight men are so ardent and committed in their feverish support .. I bet some of those supporters are just fantasizing ....... the poor weak minded fools. Even if some of them had a job that fostered that crap it's still no excuse IMHO.. --Tyr

Tyr. My oldest son's father-in-law is a retired Major of the Marines. Privately. He quietly laughs, and takes great pleasure in reminding THIS OLD SAILOR how I wouldn't recognize today's NEW NAVY. I asked him, and joked with him about the Marines, and he said he's not worried. New WEEDS that sprout up, barely make it through the Paris Island Summer training period.
He also admits. Obama's D.A.D.T. really has changed the Readiness Factor. Which also helps to explain why Obama is firing so many from the Upper Ranks at the Pentagon.
Those officers see the WRITING ON THE WALL, and are taking their retirements early.
That's what normally happens to Our Military when the C-I-C isn't a Leader.