West Point men become first to marry at academy

[jimnyc]

And, that is not what I said.

Wasn't trying to place any words in your mouth, sorry about that. I'm honestly unsure then what it is you're referring to that FJ was speaking for himself about.

[fj1200]

But that stuff is their business, so long as it's behind closed doors (I hope).

And that's the point.

I'm not sure which act you are referring to that heteros do too.

Um...

[jimnyc]

I'm not sure which act you are referring to that heteros do too. But I will say this: Mouths are engineered to be two-way. Not so anal cavities.

Well, heteros engage in anal sex too, as well as the aforementioned act. And while you and I likely are in agreement that it's kinda gross no matter who is having it, I STILL say it's worse and more vile when between 2 men. I suppose it comes down to ones outlook on homosexuality to begin with, IMO.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

We have an NFL tackle running out of the locker room because he's scared/offended, and now this. At least they aren't currently in the army. If this is the state of our men, we women may have to take over.

Well stated. These same people that want to pansy-fy our men are the same ones that want to appease the muslims by surrendering everything they ask for. Such morons haven't a clue about the concept of survival and national security. Even common sense points out one can not give control over to a group that wants to destroy all Christian values and the freedoms insured by our Constitution. Anybody that claims Islam does not seek to do that to this nation are either dumb as hell, gullible as hell, ignorant as hell or a damn liar IMHO! THE DEM/LEFTISTS ALLY WITH ISLAM BECAUSE IT DOES SEEK TO DESTROY ALL CHRITIANITY... --TYR

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

And by "vile sex acts" do you mean the same ones that some straights engage in?

I was speaking of sex acts only two men can do to each other.... Lots of heterosexual men will not do that EVEN to a female. I know I never have and never will and I am no innocent type person when it comes to crazy and wild sexual escapades with many women. God made man and woman and they fit together just perfectly if you know what I mean. The State now sanctioning what used to be a crime makes no sense to me. It was a crime for a reason but these new so-called enlightened idiots see it differently because they are stupid. It should still be a crime simply because it goes against nature and goes against decency. Why should I agree with the State sanctioning it when I do not even believe the State should have authority over marriage? I can not control what society or the State does but I still control what is allowed around me and mine in my home. No gays allowed. That is as firm as granite in my book. Should the State attempt to force me to allow such inside my home I'd rather see how fast my guns can be fired. A man's home is his last refuge. Give that up and your are a slave to the State. A man stands on his principles or else he is not a man.. I bend mine for no man not even myself!! -Tyr

[aboutime]

Not speaking for anyone else in this thread, or on the entire forum for that matter. But...In all my more than SIX decades alive.

I have not, and never considered receiving, or placing any of my body parts in someone else's Pooper...not male, or female. Nor have I ever allowed such a disgusting thing to take place.

To anyone who finds such actions between ANY human being attractive at all.

You have more than Mental Problems going on in your life. And...nobody here needs to hear, or learn how TWISTED your mind is by bragging about such Filthy..(literally) behavior.

[jimnyc]

Not speaking for anyone else in this thread, or on the entire forum for that matter. But...In all my more than SIX decades alive.

I have not, and never considered receiving, or placing any of my body parts in someone else's Pooper...not male, or female. Nor have I ever allowed such a disgusting thing to take place.

To anyone who finds such actions between ANY human being attractive at all.

You have more than Mental Problems going on in your life. And...nobody here needs to hear, or learn how TWISTED your mind is by bragging about such Filthy..(literally) behavior.

Some will tell you that you're wrong because you dislike it based on the "yuck factor". As if there is something wrong with disliking filthy and abnormal behavior.

[aboutime]

Some will tell you that you're wrong because you dislike it based on the "yuck factor". As if there is something wrong with disliking filthy and abnormal behavior.

Right you are Jim. And, it won't be the first time. Nor, will it be the last.

It does sound more disgusting if one considers where something is inserted, then, where it later finds a place to rest???? If that's the appropriate word, or description to use.

But. Like a puppy...if it kisses you on the mouth. You have to remember where the puppy's nose may have been with itself, or another puppy first.
"YUCK factor"??? You bet.

[jafar00]

IMO, the act is vile because it's 2 men engaging in it. I agree that it's the same act that hetero couples engage in. I'd guess that many women in relationships have performed a sex act on their man (trying to keep this somewhat clean). While this may still be considered vile in some fashion to some out there, it's almost an accepted act and almost widely accepted that it happens in the majority of hetero relationships. I also think this act between 2 men is vile. But all that really becomes is one mans opinion of what they find "vile". But that stuff is their business, so long as it's behind closed doors (I hope). I'm sure there are some gay people out there who find regular 'ol hetero missionary sex to be vile too.

Yes, it is vile, icky and downright unnatural. I don't have to like it because of PC culture or because it's trendy these days. I accept gays as people and I do business with them but I don't have to accept their deviant lifestyle choices just the same way as if I learned one of my friends had sex with a dog. I would be "dude, that's vile" too.

[tailfins]

Yes, it is vile, icky and downright unnatural. I don't have to like it because of PC culture or because it's trendy these days. I accept gays as people and I do business with them but I don't have to accept their deviant lifestyle choices just the same way as if I learned one of my friends had sex with a dog. I would be "dude, that's vile" too.

Yet, you support political candidates that promote all those things.

[Arbo]

So there are several members that are just like Muslims when it comes to gays. Gotta love it.

[fj1200]

I was speaking of sex acts only two men can do to each other.... Lots of heterosexual men will not do that EVEN to a female. I know I never have and never will and I am no innocent type person when it comes to crazy and wild sexual escapades with many women. God made man and woman and they fit together just perfectly if you know what I mean. The State now sanctioning what used to be a crime makes no sense to me. It was a crime for a reason but these new so-called enlightened idiots see it differently because they are stupid. It should still be a crime simply because it goes against nature and goes against decency. Why should I agree with the State sanctioning it when I do not even believe the State should have authority over marriage? I can not control what society or the State does but I still control what is allowed around me and mine in my home. No gays allowed. That is as firm as granite in my book. Should the State attempt to force me to allow such inside my home I'd rather see how fast my guns can be fired. A man's home is his last refuge. Give that up and your are a slave to the State. A man stands on his principles or else he is not a man.. I bend mine for no man not even myself!! -Tyr

And lots will so you need to at least be consistent IMO. And no, it shouldn't be a crime because the state has no compelling interest in making it so.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

And lots will so you need to at least be consistent IMO. And no, it shouldn't be a crime because the state has no compelling interest in making it so.

The once had a compelling interest. So what has changed? OH YES, the dem/leftist/socialist enlightenment factor. Would that be the same enlightenment that has this nation in such a sad state now? Answer---yes it would be.. Now lets ask why the State would want gays to legally marry and be able to take advantage of the tax breaks it offers when the State always wants more taxes not less. That points to an agenda that seems to counter the State's usually greed and lust for power. Surely an enigma! - --Tyr

[fj1200]

The once had a compelling interest. So what has changed? OH YES, the dem/leftist/socialist enlightenment factor. Would that be the same enlightenment that has this nation in such a sad state now? Answer---yes it would be.. Now lets ask why the State would want gays to legally marry and be able to take advantage of the tax breaks it offers when the State always wants more taxes not less. That points to an agenda that seems to counter the State's usually greed and lust for power. Surely an enigma! - --Tyr

I disagree with your premise that the state once had a compelling interest, we may have had laws but doesn't that validate that the compelling interest was legitimate, and thus I disagree with your conclusion.

[tailfins]

Well, heteros engage in anal sex too, as well as the aforementioned act. And while you and I likely are in agreement that it's kinda gross no matter who is having it, I STILL say it's worse and more vile when between 2 men. I suppose it comes down to ones outlook on homosexuality to begin with, IMO.

In the not very distant past, both were illegal in Missouri.