Cold Case: JFK

[fj1200]

Cold Case JFK
The 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy is re-investigated using modern technology and contemporary scientific techniques. Included: ballistics experts reconstruct the shooting in a test of the "single bullet theory."

I don't have a good link but watched Cold Case: JFK on NOVA tonight. Forensically speaking the single-bullet theory holds up and debunks the possibility of a grassy knoll shooter. It mostly backs up the Warren Commission and criticizes the conclusions of the House Select Committee on Assassinations. Very interesting was the complete bungling of the autopsy and the indepth discussion of the Carcano rifle and bullet.

[revelarts]

Single Bullet theory is BS.

the Bullet found on the stretcher in parkland hospital was Pristine. But the Dr.s and Nurses at the Hospital say they pulled bullet fragments from Connely Wrist and the rest of it from his thigh. couldn't have been on the stretcher.

and the Audio recording from the police radio definitively shows more shots that alleged by Warren.

And you've got 50+ witnesses that say shots were fired from the knoll.

And you've got most of the people who have tried to reproduce the shot LOH was suppose to have fired saying they could not do it. for multiple reason starting with the crappy rifle with slow bolt action. But somehow LOH did it nonchalantly. since he was seen in a lower floor lunch room before and after the the murder.

And you have the later House Select Committee on Assassination, congressional investigation concluding there was a more people involved.

to name a few Items...

oldy but goody


well done modern summery
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[revelarts]

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[fj1200]

Single Bullet theory is BS.

the Bullet found on the stretcher in parkland hospital was Pristine. But the Dr.s and Nurses at the Hospital say they pulled bullet fragments from Connely Wrist and the rest of it from his thigh. couldn't have been on the stretcher.

and the Audio recording from the police radio definitively shows more shots that alleged by Warren.

And you've got 50+ witnesses that say shots were fired from the knoll.

And you've got most of the people who have tried to reproduce the shot LOH was suppose to have fired saying they could not do it. for multiple reason starting with the crappy rifle with slow bolt action. But somehow LOH did it nonchalantly. since he was seen in a lower floor lunch room before and after the the murder.

And you have the later House Select Committee on Assassination, congressional investigation concluding there was a more people involved.

Ballistics test show that the bullet could go through 3 ft of wood and look pristine, it also showed that after going through flesh (ballistics gel) that it comes out in a yaw which corresponds to the entry would on Connely. The bullet also wasn't "pristine," it was squashed to some extent which would explain bullet fragments found in the wounds.

The audio was far from definitive and three shots echoing around Dealey Plaza would mislead one to think that they heard more shots let alone where they came from; there were plenty of witnesses who had no idea where they might have heard shots from. The forensics evidence from reviewing as much of the original information as possible, x-rays, clothes, autopsy photos, etc. doesn't support the kill shot coming from the front anyway.

The House Select committee was fairly well wrong, misreading the evidence will lead to false conclusions.

[revelarts]

Ballistics test show that the bullet could go through 3 ft of wood and look pristine, it also showed that after going through flesh (ballistics gel) that it comes out in a yaw which corresponds to the entry would on Connely. The bullet also wasn't "pristine," it was squashed to some extent which would explain bullet fragments found in the wounds.

The audio was far from definitive and three shots echoing around Dealey Plaza would mislead one to think that they heard more shots let alone where they came from; there were plenty of witnesses who had no idea where they might have heard shots from. The forensics evidence from reviewing as much of the original information as possible, x-rays, clothes, autopsy photos, etc. doesn't support the kill shot coming from the front anyway.

The House Select committee was fairly well wrong, misreading the evidence will lead to false conclusions.

the bullet fragments added up to more than the the extremely small defects of the the bullet.
And again the Bullet was still in Conely's thigh when it was supposedly found on the stretcher.
so that bullet could NOT be the real bullet.

the audio was rigorously reviewed by experts that of course took into account echos that's basic, and the echos were counted and ruled out, for the extra shots.

Do you really want to go into the problems with the x-rays and autopsy photos? it's horrific what was done and redone lost and changed there.

the House select Committee was fairly well right. the Warren commission was a cover up.

[fj1200]

the bullet fragments added up to more than the the extremely small defects of the the bullet.
And again the Bullet was still in Conely's thigh when it was supposedly found on the stretcher.
so that bullet could NOT be the real bullet.

the audio was rigorously reviewed by experts that of course took into account echos that's basic, and the echos were counted and ruled out, for the extra shots.

Do you really want to go into the problems with the x-rays and autopsy photos? it's horrific what was done and redone lost and changed there.

the House select Committee was fairly well right. the Warren commission was a cover up.

I don't recall what they said about the bullet in the stretcher and bullets apparently will generate two sound waves, one for the supersonic bullet and one for the muzzle blast.

I already stated that there were plenty of problems but modern forensics can make up much for much of what was done wrong 50 years ago. And no, I don't really want to watch any videos about x-rays and photos. I fully grant you that you can find alternative conclusions to anything that you want.

[revelarts]

I don't recall what they said about the bullet in the stretcher and bullets apparently will generate two sound waves, one for the supersonic bullet and one for the muzzle blast.

I already stated that there were plenty of problems but modern forensics can make up much for much of what was done wrong 50 years ago. And no, I don't really want to watch any videos about x-rays and photos. I fully grant you that you can find alternative conclusions to anything that you want.

Sure i could find alternative versions of plenty stories if i just want to find stories. but what we're talking about are here are things that have real forensic weight one way or the others.

and as i often say let look at all of the evidence. not just what favors one side or the others.
To me the more i looked at the JFK killing the more obvious it becomes that the commission covered up lots of contrary evidence. you and other may say they were doing it "for the good of the country" but to me once someone lies to me i want to know what else was a lie.
and the deeper you dig the smeller it gets.

so it's fine to wipe our hands and say the gov't report tells the basic story and not poke around at the loose ends and bend over backwards to believe everything that is at the bleeding edge of physical creditability and gloss over fudged docs, film, and other evidence added to altered and ignored testimonies just because ..well the warren story basically hold up.

But it bugs me. so I toss out the few monkey wrench I'm aware of into the conversation.
you should take a look at some of the vids i posted. interesting to say the least.

[soupnazi630]

Single Bullet theory is BS.

the Bullet found on the stretcher in parkland hospital was Pristine. But the Dr.s and Nurses at the Hospital say they pulled bullet fragments from Connely Wrist and the rest of it from his thigh. couldn't have been on the stretcher.

and the Audio recording from the police radio definitively shows more shots that alleged by Warren.

And you've got 50+ witnesses that say shots were fired from the knoll.

And you've got most of the people who have tried to reproduce the shot LOH was suppose to have fired saying they could not do it. for multiple reason starting with the crappy rifle with slow bolt action. But somehow LOH did it nonchalantly. since he was seen in a lower floor lunch room before and after the the murder.

And you have the later House Select Committee on Assassination, congressional investigation concluding there was a more people involved.

to name a few Items...

oldy but goody


well done modern summery
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The single bullet fact is well proven and has never been debunked.

The claims you make concerning this bullet have long since been proven false.
First of all it was NEVER pristine it was damaged and missing mass in a manner perfectly consistent with a bullet which struck two men. It is endless CTs who claim it was pristine but that is simple a lie.

The audio recording from one officers shoulder microphone was found to have no sounds of any gunfire on it whatsoever and has no evidence supporting any theory.

You have 50+ witnesses TODAY claiming they heard gunfire from the knoll. Only a few made such a claim immediately after the shooting. The rest came forward and changed there testimony after extensive prompting and leading from conspiracy theorists they have NO credibility. In the end the vast majority of witnesses heard 3 and only 3 shots coming from the TSBD. Of course many others heard something different which is normal whenever there is more than one witness.

In fact nearly every expert or even average shooter is easily able to match or exceed Oswalds shooting. Furthermore nearly anyone can take the time he took to fire 3 shots hide the rifle and WALK calmly to the lunchroom where he was seen after the shooting. He was not seen there before the shooting.

The House select committee concludced that there was a PROBABLE conspiracy not a certianty.

They based that conclusion on the above mentioned audio tape which has long since been debunked. As this was their only evidence of a second shooter they have no evidence of such a shooter whatsoever. The ORIGINAL conclusion of the HSCA was that Oswald acted alone this is the proper conclusion to reach. They changef that conclusion only after the audio recording was introduced and then they disbanded before any others could examine it which is when it was proven wrong.

[namvet]

the magic bullet wasn't really magic



if I had to point a finger its at the Dallas PD or someone connected to them. they screwed the pooch here big time. add to it Kennedy was not liked at all in TX because of his stand on civil rights and communism, he had a lot of enemies there. if I had to point a finger IMO Ozwald did it. alone

he also had lots a bitch's and whore's



and he sealed his own fate by riding in the rag top

[revelarts]

So...
It seems like there's more evidence that the CIA was involved in the JFK assassination.
even though you wouldn't know much from the MSM.

Looks like and inside source tell Tucker Carlson that the records show the CIA was involved.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tu...on/ar-AA15l8Ew

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Looks like recently revealed records show that the CIA met with Oswald months before the assassination.


https://www.maryferrell.org

Looks like the the grandfather of all conspiracy theories is true.

At what point are we going to admit that many (most?) "conspiracy theories" are just uncomfortable reality we don't believe yet.

[fj1200]

So...
It seems like there's more evidence that the CIA was involved in the JFK assassination.
even though you wouldn't know much from the MSM.

Looks like and inside source tell Tucker Carlson that the records show the CIA was involved.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tu...on/ar-AA15l8Ew

text

Looks like recently revealed records show that the CIA met with Oswald months before the assassination.

https://www.maryferrell.org

Looks like the the grandfather of all conspiracy theories is true.

At what point are we going to admit that many (most?) "conspiracy theories" are just uncomfortable reality we don't believe yet.

I'm not quite sure that the new documents say what you think they say.

Conspiracies surrounding JFK's killing have piqued the curiosity — and sometimes obsession — of Americans for decades. Nevertheless, White House officials have reportedly indicated that nothing in the documents will support the two most popular conspiracies: That Oswald was not the shooter and that JFK's killing was a government conspiracy.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-...tion-documents

[revelarts]

NO Magic Bullet.
the bullet hit Kennedy in the back and then fell into the back seat.
The Secret Service man there NOW SAYS he pulled it out of the seat as everyone else rushed into the hospital.
He put the bullet in his pocket walked it into the hospital and put it on the gunnery... where it was "found".

(NewsNation) — A former Secret Service agent who witnessed President John F. Kennedy‘s assassination 60 years ago is casting renewed doubt on the so-called “magic bullet” theory.
Paul Landis, 88, was in the car directly behind Kennedy when shots rang out in Dallas’ Dealey Plaza in 1963. The former agent claims that after the president was shot, he found one of the bullets lodged in the back seat of Kennedy’s limo. He says he later placed it on JFK’s stretcher at the hospital.
“I put the bullet in my pocket,” said Landis. “We raced through the lobby of the emergency room. I got pushed right up against the examination table where they had placed President Kennedy. When I was going into the room, they were removing his body from the gurney. And I quickly thought, ‘This is the place where the bullet should be.’ I made a snap decision.”
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According to that theory, one of the bullets hit Kennedy from behind and continued to hit then-Texas Gov. John Connally, who was sitting in front of the president.
“I heard the sound of a high-powered rifle. And just a few seconds after the first (shot), I heard a second shot, and I was looking at the President’s car,” he said. “I saw no movement or disturbance. And I thought that shot had missed. I heard the third shot come very quickly after the second shot I heard.”
Landis believes the bullet only hit Kennedy and subsequently popped out in the back seat.
He said he never questioned the magic bullet theory for “several years” because he initially didn’t know what it was.
Landis now questions whether Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in Kennedy’s killing, which has long been the official stance of the U.S. intelligence community.
“For one single bullet to hit the president in the head and hip. Then Gov. Connolly in the shoulder (and) continues down to hit his wrist and then ends up lodged in his leg. It just didn’t make any sense at all,” Landis said.
He said he was traumatized for months after the shooting.
“I kind of figured that I would be interviewed by the Warren Commission once I heard that it was formed,” he said. “I was a little nervous about being examined because I was afraid I was going to break down. There was a lot of crying with everybody. Nobody talked to each other about this.”
According to Landis, the Warren Commission never interviewed him.

Not enough bullets for Oswald only.

Gov't was lying? say it aint so.
No one should question the gov't.

[fj1200]

A secret service agent was there, found a bullet (was that the pristine one?), put it in his pocket, on a whim tossed it on the gurney, thinks a bullet "popped out," and didn't question the MBT because he didn't know what the Magic Bullet Theory was? Interesting.

Did you watch the forensics episode in the OP?

[revelarts]

A secret service agent was there, found a bullet (was that the pristine one?), put it in his pocket, on a whim tossed it on the gurney, thinks a bullet "popped out," and didn't question the MBT because he didn't know what the Magic Bullet Theory was? Interesting.

Did you watch the forensics episode in the OP?

Go look up what the Secret Service guy said for yourself. i might misread it.

[Black Diamond]

A secret service agent was there, found a bullet (was that the pristine one?), put it in his pocket, on a whim tossed it on the gurney, thinks a bullet "popped out," and didn't question the MBT because he didn't know what the Magic Bullet Theory was? Interesting.

Did you watch the forensics episode in the OP?

I think the bullet on the gurney was in the Oliver stone film.