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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    1% of this country is sane. just about every presidential election is a lose lose
    As an estimation I'd say its closer to about 12% that are totally sane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    If you can't tell the difference between that drivel and a reviewed source, god help your soul.



    word.

    You are trying to avoid the point I made. Are you saying the Washington Post, and censuses, are unreliable? They are both referenced in the article. Even if your bias won't allow you to notice that in the article, I have pointed it out to you.
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    Im not worried about America going Muslim. I dont see it as prevelant problem.

    We have a bigger problem with the nation going socialist.
    If we were as industrious to become good as to make ourselves great, we should become really great by being good, and the number of valuable men would be much increased; but it is a grand mistake to think of being great without goodness; and i pronounce it as certain that there was never yet a truly great man that was not at the same time truly virtuous." - Ben Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    Im not worried about America going Muslim. I dont see it as prevelant problem.

    We have a bigger problem with the nation going socialist.
    The socialists/dems have an alliance with the Muslims. That makes it a double problem as they team together to help destroy the foundation of this nation. Both groups hate this nation as it was founded. Fact..-Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    Im not worried about America going Muslim. I dont see it as prevelant problem.

    We have a bigger problem with the nation going socialist.
    Those who are busy seeing boogie men under their beds with towels on their heads, are not generally in touch with the actual problems this nation faces.

    It doesn't matter where the article is from, it's amazingly laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    The guy that got less than one percent of the vote. I simply do not keep up with small fry like that.
    That's ironic considering that, according to the demographic sources in the OP the US muslim population is less than 1%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    That's ironic considering that, according to the demographic sources in the OP the US muslim population is less than 1%.
    Nothing ironic about it since the subject was voting and a third party candidate not terrorism and those who support it. Perhaps not trying to mix apples and oranges would help you in life. Context is a very important factor in a comment you know. However now that you touched on the subject I ask how large was the number of muslims that did the deed on 9/11 and how great was the damage(over 3,000 murdered)? So small fry when the subject is voting and small fry when the subject is deliberate murder of innocent people by muslims are not comparable. I am sure you already know and understand that which is why your reply to me had me wondering what you are truly getting at.. Care to explain? Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    That's ironic considering that, according to the demographic sources in the OP the US muslim population is less than 1%.
    1%! That's the breaking point! You are being overun!!!!
    اشهد ان لا اله الا الله و اشهد ان محمدا رسول الله

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Nothing ironic about it since the subject was voting and a third party candidate not terrorism and those who support it. Perhaps not trying to mix apples and oranges would help you in life. Context is a very important factor in a comment you know. However now that you touched on the subject I ask how large was the number of muslims that did the deed on 9/11 and how great was the damage(over 3,000 murdered)? So small fry when the subject is voting and small fry when the subject is deliberate murder of innocent people by muslims are not comparable. I am sure you already know and understand that which is why your reply to me had me wondering what you are truly getting at.. Care to explain? Tyr
    Why sure. I thought the subject was a growing number of Muslims in America....
    What I meant was that despite the reference to demographic data in support of the premises "America is going muslim", curiously omitted were actual numbers. Why? I'll tel you what I think, it's because the numbers don't actually support the premise. I can look at those same data and more easily support the premises 'America is becoming more secular, or less Christian or even America is going Mormon'. Yet curiously, that's not the subject. Why? I imagine that fails to encompass the narrative, replete with bias rather than actual facts-- Care to explain otherwise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    That's ironic considering that, according to the demographic sources in the OP the US muslim population is less than 1%.


    logroller. Sounds great, probably impresses the daylights out of you...being able to make such a wonderful announcement to belittle someone else.

    Funny how you intentionally failed to mention how...on September 11th, 2001. Only a dozen Muslims...from that 1 percent you so proudly mentioned....managed to CHANGE AMERICAN LIFE FOREVER.

    But then again. Why would you say such a thing? You have nothing else but your own ego to impress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    logroller. Sounds great, probably impresses the daylights out of you...being able to make such a wonderful announcement to belittle someone else.

    Funny how you intentionally failed to mention how...on September 11th, 2001. Only a dozen Muslims...from that 1 percent you so proudly mentioned....managed to CHANGE AMERICAN LIFE FOREVER.

    But then again. Why would you say such a thing? You have nothing else but your own ego to impress.
    Has nothing to do with how it sounds or who it impresses. The numbers speak for themselves, and they kill the narrative of the OP.

    How many people it takes to pull off a terrorist plot has zero to do with a 'muslim takeover of America' in terms of the OP, but keep flailing.

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    In America, where we bend over backwards to cater to minority groups, small numbers can actually be an advantage. Gay marriage, for just one example, is gaining ground every day. Not to mention how Phil Robertson temporarily lost his gig over his opinion of gayness.

    Btw, genuine question- what are the Muslim numbers like in Canada, where I recall there was a movement to invoke Sharia law?

    I understand that some here feel the Muslim threat is looming large, while others think that is an absurd fear. I think the answer lies somewhere in the middle. But isn't it always a good idea to stay on your toes when (as we've seen in the Middle East and Africa) your way of life is possibly threatened? I'm sure at some point the people of Afghanistan and Iraq didn't think they had anything to fear, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    Why sure. I thought the subject was a growing number of Muslims in America....
    What I meant was that despite the reference to demographic data in support of the premises "America is going muslim", curiously omitted were actual numbers. Why? I'll tel you what I think, it's because the numbers don't actually support the premise. I can look at those same data and more easily support the premises 'America is becoming more secular, or less Christian or even America is going Mormon'. Yet curiously, that's not the subject. Why? I imagine that fails to encompass the narrative, replete with bias rather than actual facts-- Care to explain otherwise?
    The OP article was about more than just population growth. It was about cultural and political influence too. The Islamic groups are making huge inroads in that arena. CAIR is no bit player in the political arena. As to your question about the OP ARTICLE in which you ask me this-- \\ .--

    Yet curiously, that's not the subject. Why? I imagine that fails to encompass the narrative, replete with bias rather than actual facts-- Care to explain otherwise?
    I say I didnt write the article. Ask the author is my suggestion. However when you mention bias you do not care to point to the extreme bias the muslims engage in. In fact , nothing they do includes thinking of the rights and welfare of any group that is not muslim. Strange how you miss that elephant in the room while you accuse myself and others of bias! There is no pursued sense of justice and fair play in the way they pursue their agenda. If there was they would not support those that use violence to advance it! You guys can not have it both ways, either they are a huge deal because they are over a billion people worldwide or they are insignificant threat because they are such a small percentage of the U.S. population. Myself I get damn tired of seeing both examples used by the same defenders/appeasers of Islam.. They can not be both IMHO. I GAVE YOU A VERIFIED FACT OF HOW A VERY FEW OF THEM MURDERED OVER 3,00O INNOCENT AMERICANS. YOUR ANSWER TO THAT WAS TO SPEAK OF THE BIAS OF WE THAT OPPOSE THEM WHILE YOU IGNORE THIER BIAS AND ABSOLUTE INTOLERANCE. I find that to be hypocritical . Especially since anybody above moron level can see their agenda is to destroy us and our way of life. All must submit to Allah or die! That is their prime directive. --Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Nero only played , Obama is trucking in tankers of gasoline adding to the fire! And remember his words, "in the end he will always side with Islam". Words his defenders ignore and care not to answer about.
    B. HUSSEIN OBAMA: 'I will stand with the Muslims. . .

    Will injustices in America ever go away completely?

    by: j. grant swank, jr | published: 07 01, 2008

    Note what B. Hussein Obama says in his own words. They are from his books entitled “Dreams of My Father” and “Audacity of Hope.

    In “Audacity of Hope” he writes: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” The quote comes from page 261 of the paperback edition of “The Audacity of Hope.

    B. Hussein was writing about the injustices suffered by some in America. In that context he wrote that sentence.

    Will injustices in America ever go away completely? No. We live in an imperfect world. Therefore, will the situation ever arise by which Muslims in the United States will cry out for B. Hussein to lean in their favor. Of course. And will he?

    Well, he’s already said he will “stand with the Muslims.” Need we go any further?

    More from “Dreams of My Father,” B. Hussein writes: “I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.

    And further in that same book: “I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.

    There is more: “There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.

    Has the Jeremiah Wright twenty year tutoring of anti-white, pro-blackism wedded to B. Hussein’s perspective regarding blacks and whites? No doubt.

    B. Hussein writes in “Dreams of My Father” that “it remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.

    This is particularly telling and frightening: “I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.

    Did you get that? Malcolm X, racist who despises white people, is his hero.

    Concerning his father, note: “He comes from a father who was a Muslim,” said civil rights author Juan Williams of National Public Radio. “I mean, I think that given we’re at war with Muslim extremists, that presents a problem.

    In addition, Obama’s stepfather was a practicing Muslim
    yes, the man will always side with his "brothers".--Tyr
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