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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    Everything? Well that's a little broad IMO. But Its a piece of legislation that governs military members and like most comprehensive law and its quite complicated; convoluted even; but in a nutshell all members of the us military, even retired in some instances are subject to it-- often in spite of constitutional law that applies to citizens. It includes many of the general civil laws (murder, rape etc) and details when military members are subject to civil law or military law . Like many civil laws it proscribes actions, the punishments for such (from letter of reprimand through execution), the process by which an alleged crime is reported (eg a superior officer must recommend charges), the rights of the suspect (eg to appeal an administrative punishment, a right to an attorney in trial, to confront witnesses, present a defense, innocent until proven guilty, not being discharged while the process ensues including being withheld pay etc), process of court martial (how many jurists, submitting a plea, if it's a court martial the option of a jury of like or above rank, if its capital then it must be jury trial etc).
    I can continue, but why--is there something you're curious of? I don't know everything but I can probably find the information you desire.

    To the point: your implication of someone receiving pay being unjustified is wrong because because there is ucmj code to prevent someone from being punished financially due to charges being brought forth out of personal vendetta. Now while Hassan's charges weren't the product of capricious prosecution, ucmj law protects against such would it be the case and the rule is just. Were this rule broken it could be used as grounds for an appeal, possibly overturning the verdict and further extending the time before the punishment is meted out.


    log. Time to dump your bucket. The bucket overflowing with crap. But I bet you really impressed yourself to no end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    . Better watch out or tyr will get onto you about being insulting, he's super consistent that way.
    I do not ever recall being reprimanded in anyway by any mod or any of the administration here for personal insults that crossed the line. You seem to confuse my comments made to the public at large with specific comments I make directly too and about a member here. And if none of my "supposed insults" warranted administrated action why bring them up? Are we not allowed to insult the public citizens and/or politicians here? I am pretty damn consistent with my views and my criticisms leveled against opposition. My insulting murdering Islamists, libs, gays, socialists, criminals, etc. will continue as long as I am alive Hoss. I break my principles for no man or no group of people. Perhaps if you backed up your accusation with some examples of quotes coming from me to the insulted members here in which I was doing more than they were.. If not then its merely your mistaken opinion on the matter. Additionally I must ask if I am so guilty why haven't I ever been banned? I have no special status here Jim can ban me just like anybody else. Members get into heated debate and get very uncivil from time to time. If you can show me being worse at it than those I spoke about go for it. Myself, I loved to see some clear examples to back your accusation. If none are presented , I will just assume that you are bloviating for your own amusement. Which is allowed but hardly a thing to be admired IMHO.--Tyr
    18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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