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That has more weight to it when the ones speaking out against such corruption are very few. Now that the numbers are growing sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo massively it doesn't. However nice try . Too much evidence against Obama by his deeds and his true character for that lead balloon to float now IMHO.-TyrOriginally Posted by logroller
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I thought that's what I said on page one.Fair enough answer. Man, have to draw 'em out of you. Like squeezing juice out of an orange.Methinks you have one of those rare fetishes-- "Squeeze fetish".
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Not really interesting. It's from fool.com as in Motley Fool. Following the money is their raison d'etre.
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One must take into considerations the other acts by the traitor in chief when looking at these things. And one must also consider the type of scum he puts into power positions to help him weaken our military. The primary point is his weakening our military. One which nobody has proven to be false. Much evidence that shows it has been his doing has been chalked up to simple mistakes by him or blame placed upon one of his many fall guys but the old adage , "the buck stops here", applies to his sorry worthless lying ass just as it did to other Presidents. Too many people ignore that fact IMHO. -Tyr
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18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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Is there any proof that doesn't tie back to WND?
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Yes, will try to post tomorrow. Must take some pain meds and hit the hay now. Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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Google Military industrial complex: Capitalism has its flaws.
Its extensive :http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppos...o_the_Iraq_WarSeveral prominent members of the military and national security communities, particularly those who favor a more realist approach to international relations, have been critical of both the decision to invade Iraq and the prosecution of the War.
On July 28, 2002, eight months before the invasion of Iraq, the Washington Post reported that "many senior U.S. military officers" including members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff opposed an invasion on the grounds that the policy of containment was working.[8]
A few days later, Gen. Joseph P. Hoar (Ret.) warned the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that the invasion was risky and perhaps unnecessary.
Morton Halperin, a foreign policy expert with the Council on Foreign Relations and Center for American Progress warned that an invasion would increase the terrorist threat.[9]
In a 2002 book, Scott Ritter, a Nuclear Weapons Inspector in Iraq from 1991–98, argued against an invasion and expressed doubts about the Bush Administration’s claims that Saddam Hussein had a WMD capability.[10] He later accused the Bush administration of deliberately misleading the public.
I think [The Bush Administration] has stated that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, and that's as simple as they want to keep it. They don't want to get into the nitty-gritty things such as if you bury a Scud missile to hide it from detection, there is a little thing called corrosion. Where do you hide the fuel, how do you make this stuff up, how do you align it. Because when you disassemble it, there is a process called re-alignment. There is a factory involved in that. And then you have to test launch it to make sure that the alignment works, and that's detectable, and they haven't done that. There is a lot of common sense things that go into consideration of whether or not Iraq has a operational weapons of mass destruction capability.[11]
Brent Scowcroft, who served as National Security Adviser to President George H.W. Bush was an early critic. He wrote an August 15, 2002 editorial in The Wall Street Journal entitled "Don't attack Saddam," arguing that the war would distract from the broader fight against terrorism and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which should be the U.S.'s highest priority in the Middle East.[12] The next month, Gen. Hugh Shelton, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, agreed that war in Iraq would distract from the War on Terrorism.[13]
Retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, former head of Central Command for U.S. forces in the Middle East and State Department's envoy to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, echoed many of Scowcroft's concerns in an October 2002 speech at the Middle East Institute. In a follow-up interview with Salon, Zinni said he was "not convinced we need to do this now," arguing that deposing Saddam Hussein was only the sixth or seventh top priority in the Middle East, behind the Middle East peace process, reforming Iran, our commitments in Afghanistan, and several others.[14]
By January 19, 2003, TIME Magazine reported that "as many as 1 in 3 senior officers questions the wisdom of a preemptive war with Iraq."[15]
On February 13, 2003 Ambassador Joseph Wilson, former chargé d'affaires in Baghdad, resigned from the Foreign Service and publicly questioned the need for another war in Iraq.[16] After the War started, he wrote an editorial in the New York Times titled What I Didn't Find in Africa that claimed to discredit a Bush Administration claim that Iraq had attempted to procure uranium from Niger.[17]
John Brady Kiesling, another career diplomat with similar reservations, resigned in a public letter in the New York Times on February 27.[18] He was followed on March 10 by John H. Brown, a career diplomat with 22 years of service,[19] and on March 19 by Mary Ann Wright, a diplomat with 15 years of service in the State Department following a military career of 29 years.[20] The war started the next day.
Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski (Ret.) was political/military desk officer at the Defense Department’s office for Near East South Asia (NESA) in the months before the war. In December 2003 she began to write an anonymous column that described the disrupting influence of the Office of Special Plans on the analysis that led to the decision to go to war.[21]
On June 16, 2004 twenty seven former senior U.S. diplomats and military commanders called Diplomats and Military Commanders for Change issued a statement against the war.[22] The group included:
William J. Crowe, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under President Ronald Reagan
Joseph Hoar, former Commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East
H. Allen Holmes, former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations
Donald McHenry, former Ambassador to the United Nations
Merrill McPeak, former Air Force Chief of Staff
Jack F. Matlock, Jr., a member of the National Security Council under Reagan and former Ambassador to the Soviet Union
John Reinhardt, former Director of the United States Information Agency
Ronald I. Spiers, Under Secretary General of the United Nations for Political Affairs and a former Ambassador
Stansfield Turner, former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency
Richard Clarke, former chief counter-terrorism adviser on the National Security Council for both the latter part of the Clinton Administration and early part of the George W. Bush Administration, criticized the Iraq war along similar lines in his 2004 book Against All Enemies and during his testimony before the 9/11 Commission. In addition to diverting funds from the fight against al-Qaeda, Clarke argued that the invasion of Iraq would actually bolster the efforts of Osama bin Laden and other Islamic radicals, who had long predicted that the U.S. planned to invade an oil-rich Middle Eastern country.
Similar arguments were made in a May 2004 interview[23] and an August 2005 article by Lt. Gen. William Odom, former Director of the National Security Agency.[24]
In April 2006, six prominent retired generals publicly criticized Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld's handling of the war, and called for his resignation.[25] The group included two generals who commanded troops in Iraq: Maj. Gen. Charles H. Swannack, Jr. (Ret.) and Maj. Gen. John Batiste (Ret.).[26] One of the generals, Lieut. Gen. Greg Newbold (Ret.), who served as the Pentagon's top operations officer during the months leading up to the invasion, also published an article that month in Time Magazine entitled "Why Iraq Was a Mistake."[27]
Uh,, lemming guess that your sources are more prominent or numerous than mine...with all due respect, that's BS. He's a shitty pres, no doubt, but the facts you present don't support your assertion of intentionally weakening the military. Nice try though.
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Sorry logroller, but I fail to see how anti-war sentiment from a war fought applies to the point I was making about Obama deliberately weakening our military. If you care to give me some clues how it is pertinent be my guest. Additionally , accumulated evidence from a massive anti-war media campaign and its allies that targeted Rumsfield and Bush prove only that it's proponents sought to destroy by any means(primarily propaganda swaying public opinion) that which they could not conquer. I am sure there has already been many threads on that very subject. -Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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How about a lucky 13 for starts fj. And there are lots more. -Tyr2. Bryan1. “Obama deliberately weakens America by gutting military”, One ...
http://www.onenewsnow.com/.../obama-...utti...
Aug 1, 2013 - If America is to be brought down, our military must be emasculated, neutered, feminized, and weakened beyond repair. That process is ...Fischer: "Obama deliberately weakens America by gutting ...
http://www.examiner.com/.../bryan-fi...meri...
Aug 1, 2013 - This time, Fischer's charge is that Obama is deliberately gutting the military, which "-is happening at warp speed under the direction of our ...3. Blaze Sources: Obama Purging Military Commanders | TheBlaze.com
http://www.theblaze.com/.../military...g-co...
Oct 23, 2013 - Nine senior commanding generals have been fired by the Obama ... He's intentionally weakening and gutting our military, Pentagon and ...4. Obama deliberately weakens America by gutting military - The ...
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Aug 3, 2013 - 15 posts - 3 authors
Obama deliberately weakens America by gutting military. ... If America is to be brought down, our military must be emasculated, neutered, ...5. Dr. Charles Ormsby - Is Obama Intentionally trying to Destroy ...
www.valleypatriot.com/VP0611ormsby.htm
Is Obama Intentionally Seeking to Destroy America? .... and their fiefdoms, Obama's weakening of our military, his other debilitating foreign policy decisions, and ...6. Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely: Obama is intentionally weakening and ...
http://www.truthandaction.org/maj-ge...weak...
Nov 5, 2013 - “Obama is intentionally weakening and gutting our military, Pentagon and reducing us as a superpower, and anyone in the ranks who ...7. Obama's Military Purge | FrontPage Magazine
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/arn...-purge/
Oct 28, 2013 - “[Obama is] intentionally weakening and gutting our military, Pentagon and reducing us as a superpower, and anyone in the ranks who ...8. America's New Military | MyPulseNews.com
mypulsenews.com/americas-new-military/
Dec 1, 2013 - “There is no doubt he (Obama) is intent on emasculating the military and will fire ... He's intentionally weakening and gutting our military and the ...9. Obama Weakening and Gutting Our Military – Gen. Paul Vallely on ...
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Oct 30, 2013 - “Obama is intentionally weakening and gutting our military, Pentagon and reducing us as a superpower, and anyone in the ranks who ...10. Obama's Military Purge — The Patriot Post
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Oct 29, 2013 - The list of senior military commanders fired by Obama continues to grow, ... He's intentionally weakening and gutting our military, Pentagon and ...11. Articles: Remaking the Military in the Image of Obama
http://www.americanthinker.com/.../r..._of_...
Nov 14, 2013 - He's [Mr. Obama] intentionally weakening and gutting our military, Pentagon and reducing us as a superpower, and anyone in the ranks who ...12. Obama intentionally weakening our military over politics ...
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Oct 23, 2013 - President Obama has laid off many of our top military commanders and is weakening the United States' status around the world because he ...13. Is the Obama administration deliberately weakening our military ...
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May 12, 2010 - Consider this article from the Weekly Standard. (H/T ECM) Excerpt: When Secretary of Defense Robert Gates went to Chicago last summer to ...
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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log. And nobody here recognizes how you intentionally didn't mention how the ALTERNATIVES to Capitalism...such as Socialism, Communism, and Fascism are FLAWED even more.
But then again. If that's the kind of life you wish to live, under the thumb of others who will do your thinking for you.
ENJOY.
I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
So, this is for them.
GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !
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Nuh uh. It's only flaw is that it's so awesome that every other ideology has to try and tear it down because it's the only one that works.
Now some of its required elements may be hindered to varying degrees, transparency, barriers to entry, etc. but that doesn't inherently mean that capitalism is flawed.
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
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Your links are busted from the copy/paste but did you just google "BO weakening military"? Be honest.
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
Educate man, Liberate man
Your links are busted from the copy/paste but did you just google "BO weakening military"? Be honest.
fj. How bout this kind of proof. Living in one of the largest military places in the U.S., having thousands of neighbors in UNIFORM. All of my neighbors are Military. Most of them know, but are forbidden from going public about how OBAMA, and CONGRESS are tearing them, and their families down...one member at a time.
The links may be bad. BUT FACTS..from REAL HUMAN BEINGS are not.
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So, this is for them.
GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !
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Damn, Sherlock you are good!Your links are busted from the copy/paste but did you just google "BO weakening military"? Be honest.
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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Hey look, another lecture for me. Perhaps I should just say that I'd approve if some other members parents had an abortion, as that appears to be fine discussion, even when it's not related to the discussion at hand.
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