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    Default It's just the same old third world birthrate problem again

    Like everthing else that is happening in the world, avoid the rhectoric, morality questions, historical ( and hysterical ) context and the rest of the liberal blah blah blah, to understand what is happening, get hold of a good reference book which will give the populations of various parts of the world in the 40s and compare those with the present numbers.
    In particular look at the figures for the West Bank and Gaza at the time of the creation of the Jewish state. The vast increases are due to an abnormally high birthrate which has been generated courtesy of the UN. This means a corresponding vast number of young men ( and children ) who have nothing else to do with their lives but to try to kill Israelis. The increase in the Jewish population on the otherhand has been simple migration of the SAME ETHNIC PEOPLE ( unlike that of the US ) which has been supported by Israel's ability to create high tech employment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky Dicky View Post
    The vast increases are due to an abnormally high birthrate which has been generated courtesy of the UN.
    Link?

    Birthrates are tied to economic development; Israel has it, WB and Gaza don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
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    Birthrates are tied to economic development; Israel has it, WB and Gaza don't.
    Not always true, see Africa. Where adverse conditions cause early death we see greater birth rates to compensate. True in Africa the greater birth rate is because they live in such poor conditions that sex is likely the only pleasure they can indulge in without having killed somebody to get the means to do so. Other factors exist to promote higher birth rate there ,religion being one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
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    Birthrates are tied to economic development; Israel has it, WB and Gaza don't.
    ..and government handouts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Not always true, see Africa. Where adverse conditions cause early death we see greater birth rates to compensate. True in Africa the greater birth rate is because they live in such poor conditions that sex is likely the only pleasure they can indulge in without having killed somebody to get the means to do so. Other factors exist to promote higher birth rate there ,religion being one.
    Africa proves my posit. People have more children when they are necessary to support the earlier generation. Plenty of religious folk don't have kids even as they're religion frowns upon birth control.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    ..and government handouts?
    Not so much. Besides I was speaking to the country, though not exactly country, level in the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    ..and government handouts?
    No they haven't got any government handouts - it's handouts from the American tax payer

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    The question we should be asking is whether quantity is greater than quality. A couple of thousand more Israeli Muslims will shift the political landscape but the Jews won't give up their seat of power easily.

    AIPAC lobbyists are decreasing every decade Isreal should look to convert some of the Chinese to Judaism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by defectiverepresentative View Post
    The question we should be asking is whether quantity is greater than quality. A couple of thousand more Israeli Muslims will shift the political landscape but the Jews won't give up their seat of power easily.

    AIPAC lobbyists are decreasing every decade Isreal should look to convert some of the Chinese to Judaism.
    What? So they can go to the apartheid state and be treated as badly as the white Jews treat the black Jews?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky Dicky View Post
    No they haven't got any government handouts - it's handouts from the American tax payer
    My point was that economic development is not the only contributor to increased birth rates. Government handouts also add to it, imo. This is generally speaking. I was not being country-specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky Dicky View Post
    Like everthing else that is happening in the world, avoid the rhectoric, morality questions, historical ( and hysterical ) context and the rest of the liberal blah blah blah, to understand what is happening, get hold of a good reference book which will give the populations of various parts of the world in the 40s and compare those with the present numbers.
    In particular look at the figures for the West Bank and Gaza at the time of the creation of the Jewish state. The vast increases are due to an abnormally high birthrate which has been generated courtesy of the UN. This means a corresponding vast number of young men ( and children ) who have nothing else to do with their lives but to try to kill Israelis. The increase in the Jewish population on the otherhand has been simple migration of the SAME ETHNIC PEOPLE ( unlike that of the US ) which has been supported by Israel's ability to create high tech employment.

    Tricky Dicky. All you need to do is visit DETROIT, PHILADELPHIA, NEW YORK CITY, BALTIMORE, CHICAGO, and hundreds of other U.S. Cities. You sound like a wannabe spokesperson for CHINA, and their ONE CHILD rule to control the birthrate.
    Too bad nobody considered that...prior to your Birthday.
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