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    Default Big Brother's Arm just keep geting longer and longer.

    Facebook to delete posts for illegal gun sales ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — Under pressure from gun control advocates, Facebook agreed Wednesday to delete posts from users seeking to buy or sell weapons illegally or without a background check.

    A similar policy will be applied to Instagram, the company's photo-sharing network, Facebook said. The measures will be put into effect over the next few weeks at the world's largest social network, with 1.3 billion active users.

    "We will remove reported posts that explicitly indicate a specific attempt to evade or help others evade the law," the company said in a statement.

    The move reflects growing alarm that the Internet is being used to sell banned weapons, evade restrictions on interstate sales, and put guns in the hands of convicted felons, domestic abusers, the mentally ill or others barred under federal law from obtaining firearms. Gun control advocates say Facebook has become a significant marketplace, with thousands of firearms-related posts.

    Google Plus and Craigslist already prohibit all gun sales, legal or illegal.

    Facebook said that instead of patrolling its network for violators, it will rely on reports from users and police.

    The new policy was worked out in an agreement with New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, who has been pressing the company along with Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a group backed by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, and Moms Demand Action. Moms Demand Action collected more than 230,000 signatures on petitions calling on Facebook to act.

    "Responsible social media sites know that it is in no one's interest for their sites to become the 21st-century black market in dangerous and illegal goods that place our families and communities at risk," Schneiderman said.

    Chris Cox, executive director of the National Rifle Association's legislative policy arm, portrayed the new policy as a victory for the NRA, saying Bloomberg and his allies tried — and failed — to shut down discussion of gun rights on Facebook.

    "NRA members and our supporters will continue to have a platform to exercise their First Amendment rights in support of their Second Amendment freedoms," Cox said.

    But Tom King, president of the NRA's New York affiliate, warned that the policy could be used to silence gun organizations on Facebook.

    "This is something that could greatly get out of control very quickly," King said.

    In crafting the new policy, Facebook had to confront a patchwork of gun laws around the country. New York, for example, has some of the nation's toughest gun laws. It prohibits the sale of weapons such the AR-15 semi-automatic rifle, and it is one of 16 states that require background checks on buyers making private firearm purchases.

    Under the new policy, Facebook would allow a user to list an AR-15 as long as it wasn't offered for sale in states where the weapon is illegal.

    Also, Facebook will remove any posts in which a gun seller offers to skip a background check, even if such checks aren't required in the seller's state. And it will delete offers to sell guns across state lines without the involvement of a licensed firearms dealer, something required under federal law.

    "This is one of many areas where we face a difficult challenge balancing individuals' desire to express themselves on our services and recognizing that this speech may have consequences elsewhere," Facebook said.

    The company already has systems in place to remove advertising that is false and deceptive, and it prohibits ads for illegal drugs, tobacco and prescription drugs.

    Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, complained that Facebook didn't go far enough.

    "They are talking about a community-based reporting system. Do what these other companies did and shut it down. Shut down the private sales of guns," he said.

    There's no way to know how many guns are sold via Facebook, because the transactions are actually completed offline, said John Feinblatt, chairman of Mayors Against Illegal Guns. But such sales have occurred
    Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, complained that Facebook didn't go far enough.
    Sure thing Dan Grossbutt, they should have had them shot ,right? Right, you worthless piece of communist shat.. -Tyr
    18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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    This reasoning aside, Facebook absolutely sucks when it comes to censorship. I have a few friends that have various pages and they are constantly having those page accounts suspended for the dumbest of reasons, or just outright having things disappear. Often, it's politically based things. They removed the page of the truckers "shut down America" page. A page about Obama arming jihadists. Roger Ebert was censored. Many religious people have complained about posting Bible verses and such only to have them removed. "Patriot Nation", a conservative political group, had their page removed.

    I could go on and on and on, but suffice to say that they are no strangers to censorship and deleting things they disagree with.

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    Where others see despair, I see opportunity. Here's a chance for DP to grow its membership. How about it, Jim? I propose a firearms section on DP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    This reasoning aside, Facebook absolutely sucks when it comes to censorship. I have a few friends that have various pages and they are constantly having those page accounts suspended for the dumbest of reasons, or just outright having things disappear. Often, it's politically based things. They removed the page of the truckers "shut down America" page. A page about Obama arming jihadists. Roger Ebert was censored. Many religious people have complained about posting Bible verses and such only to have them removed. "Patriot Nation", a conservative political group, had their page removed.

    I could go on and on and on, but suffice to say that they are no strangers to censorship and deleting things they disagree with.
    FB disagrees with Bible verses?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    FB disagrees with Bible verses?!
    You can do a search on FB censorship, and here's a horrid looking site that covers a lot though.

    http://facebookcensorship.com/

    And while that site is horrid, there are tons of mainstream sites that have articles written about the censorship over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Big Brother's Arm just keep geting longer and longer.
    That's not his arm. It's his nose.
    "The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    That's not his arm. It's his nose.
    Its both. The nose for lying(Pinocchio) propaganda (media spins) and the arm is for "strong arm tactics" to oppose and defeat by any means WE that support the Constitution and our rights! --Tyr
    18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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