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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    This **** was washed up long ago, who gives a fuck where she goes or what she does. As far as I knew she was supposed to be hounding the halls of the new Congress until impeachment proceedings started, we see how well that went.

    She makes retards look like rocket scientists.
    Must've gone over REAL big since this is the first I even heard of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post



    They've already released people after a number of years against whom there was absolutely no evidence. Like I said, if they've committed treason... lock 'em up and throw away the key. But first it has to be proven.... they should have access to attorneys and hearings and to the evidence and charges against them. This is America, right?


    No, non-citizens especially in a time of war should not and are not granted any constitutional rights....oh and piss on their Geneva Convention rights too.

    You do understand the meaning of the word enemy, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Must've gone over REAL big since this is the first I even heard of it.
    Yeah she wrote a letter to Pelosi and the boys saying she was demanding impeachment and was gonna camp out on Capitol Hill until it happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    No, non-citizens especially in a time of war should not and are not granted any constitutional rights....oh and piss on their Geneva Convention rights too.

    You do understand the meaning of the word enemy, right?
    The Iraqis were our enemy??

    As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except Negroes." When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except Negroes and foreigners and Catholics." When it comes to this, I shall prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty - to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure and without the base alloy of hypocrisy." The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume II, "Letter to Joshua F. Speed" (August 24, 1855), p. 323.
    "What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried?" Lincoln's Cooper Institute Address, February
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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    You are attempting to muddy the topic, if these people are at Gitmo whether they be Iraqi, Syrian etc. etc. they are considered an enemy and prisoner of war and any investigation into their status should be done strictly by a military tribunal. No pow should be afforded such things as miranda rights, right to a lawyer etc. etc. etc.

    That other crap was well, crap.

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    sheehan is a stupid bitch that is nothing but a media whore and would be forgotten if the goddamn media would just quit exposing her. But they won't because she's their doll and a means to bash Bush.

    Gitmo is a POW camp. The enemy that are captured are taken there and interrogated. They will be held there until the war, not the iraq front, is over. A few have been releaased and were promptly killed or recaptured in Afanhistan or iraq fighting again. No Americans are held at Gitmo, only foriegn fighters. They have no Constitutional rights as they are not citizens. They are held strictly under the rules of the genieva convention. They are thugs and killers. Many are so bad their own countries refuse to take them back.

    The islamists are our enemy. That's whats locked up in Gitmo.

    As I said before, if it wasn't for the media and the other Bush haters we would have been finished in iraq and pulling out by now. They are the cause and reason we have had so many causalties there.

    Bush's new strategy should be to go after the liberal media and worthless shits like sheehan. End their little propaganda war against America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
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    Bush's new strategy should be to go after the liberal media and worthless shits like sheehan. End their little propaganda war against America.
    That would be nice, don't see that happening though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    That would be nice, don't see that happening though.
    Me either but it is an important front in the war and is being ignored.

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    So your idea of what this country should be doing is to engage in censorship???

    What are we fighting to preserve again?? Pretty sad. Perhaps dubya should do a better job? Then he might get better press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    So your idea of what this country should be doing is to engage in censorship???

    What are we fighting to preserve again?? Pretty sad. Perhaps dubya should do a better job? Then he might get better press.
    I am calling for truth in news reporting and self censorship when national security is concerned.

    Sticking the latest attacks in iraq into a story about a school being built and open is not unbaised news reporting. Especially when the first and last paragraphs, out of 12, are the only parts mentioning the school.

    As long as the media is liberally run Bush will never get better or even fair press. Freedom of speech gives them the right to do this and they hide behind that at every opporunity. I don't want it taken away. I want more straight reporting without an agenda. But straight news reporting is not even taught in the colleges anymore.
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    I have no problem with Sheehan going to Cuba or protesting.

    As for bias in the media....Fox more than takes up the slack IMO...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumplestillskin View Post
    I have no problem with Sheehan going to Cuba or protesting.

    As for bias in the media....Fox more than takes up the slack IMO...
    the connection between the two, I mean to make your take credible...

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    Speaking of FOX. Hannity has a show on tonight and he interviews sheehan.

    And FoX is as bad as the rest of them when it comes to sensationalizing the news. They also ignore stories that should be covered and aren't for one editorial reason or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    So your idea of what this country should be doing is to engage in censorship???

    What are we fighting to preserve again?? Pretty sad. Perhaps dubya should do a better job? Then he might get better press.
    Not censorship .... just more than the one-sided reporting we are continually bombarded with.

    An effort to report the facts in an unbiased manner by the MSM would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumplestillskin View Post
    I have no problem with Sheehan going to Cuba or protesting.

    As for bias in the media....Fox more than takes up the slack IMO...


    One cable TV news outlet makes up for at least 6 tv news outlets and pretty much every newspaper in existence? And that's just in THIS country.

    But please, DO post an example of political bias presented as fact by Fox. I would be interested to see what you consider "biased."

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