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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Those Conservatives need only examine Margaret Thatcher's record, and make their own judgments from such a review. Then reflect on how very successful a CONSERVATIVE she was.
    Do it hack. Defend it; Big Government is better than Small Government. Don't run away. 'Proudly Thatcherite' my A*!
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    I'll make this quick, because I'm weary of your trolling and thread hijacking. I've better things to do with my time than indulge your Leftie-driven ego.

    Pragmatism, as Margaret proved, and as David Cameron acknowledged, can be a highly effective way of making Conservatism work to its utmost potential. They can enjoy a successful synergistic interlocking, to produce brilliant Governmental effects. History says so, despite anything you have to say on the matter.

    -- But -- here, your true Leftie psychology betrays you. Doesn't it ?? What Leftie can come to terms with pragmatism being part of an integral, successful application, of a philosophy ?

    You'll never get that. You can't. No Leftie could be content with that form of reality.

    YOU were the one unaware of proper context from a speech of Margaret's. Saying what ... that all you know of her is what quick Google searches give you ?

    When I referred to Margaret's lack of modern day experience of terrorism, I had in mind that her experience was defined by her knowledge of the IRA. NOT that of Islamic terrorism, since all of our modern experiences of it post-date her Leadership.

    So you cannot look to anything she spoke about and say it correctly assesses today's terrorist problems. The world has seen a new order of terrorist savagery, to which it should appropriately respond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Do it hack. Defend it; Big Government is better than Small Government. Don't run away. 'Proudly Thatcherite' my A*!
    See ? You just can't face historical reality. It's beyond you.

    I have covered your rot already. I have told you that a true Conservative does not prefer big Government solutions, since after all, the point is to NOT interfere with individual lives any more than is necessary. BUT ... history, and Margaret's successes, speak volumes. Whether you like it or not .... much of what she achieved had to involve a Big Government sort of approach.

    Defy reality all you like, Mr Leftie - it's what Lefties are best at. Margaret's history, her record, what she was willing to do, and HOW she did it .. it's easily researchable. It's high time you did some proper research ! You can face the truth, or, you can cling on to a basis for your trolling rot which has you continuing to fight Conservatives here on a 'grounding' of self-delusion.

    And just how stupid would such an exercise be, anyway ?

    Have fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    ... making Conservatism work to its utmost potential. They can enjoy a successful synergistic interlocking, to produce brilliant Governmental effects.

    YOU were the one unaware of proper context from a speech of Margaret's. Saying what ... that all you know of her is what quick Google searches give you ?

    When I referred to Margaret's lack of modern day experience of terrorism, I had in mind that her experience was defined by her knowledge of the IRA. NOT that of Islamic terrorism, since all of our modern experiences of it post-date her Leadership.

    So you cannot look to anything she spoke about and say it correctly assesses today's terrorist problems. The world has seen a new order of terrorist savagery, to which it should appropriately respond.
    So what you're saying idiot is that small government is successful because Big Government? When you find yourself in a hole idiot you should stop digging.

    So what you're saying idiot is that the Iron Lady would have forsaken her core beliefs when confronted with something that she had already been confronted with. Yeah, it sounds stupid when you say it too. I also find it incredible idiot that I had to point out that it was Mags who had said it; Any real "Thatcherite" would/should have known from the get go. You're welcome.

    And I'm pretty sure that we can appropriately respond to terror without resorting to doing what terrorists do. I'm sure the Lady Thatcher and I agree on that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    I have covered your rot already. I have told you that a true Conservative does not prefer big Government solutions, since after all, the point is to NOT interfere with individual lives any more than is necessary. BUT ... history, and Margaret's successes, speak volumes. Whether you like it or not .... much of what she achieved had to involve a Big Government sort of approach.


    Here's the thing idiot. You saying idiotic things really isn't proof of anything since you've now been on record of praising big government solutions over small government solutions. I'm pretty sure you don't even know what actual conservatism is since you seem so quick to jump on big government solutions when the going gets tough for you. Small government conservatism is a courageous choice and you're nothing but a coward latching on to a big government solution.
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