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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    You answered your own question. Plus I haven't read where this would allow them the ability to do what you say.
    If you defeat the encryption between the phone and the tower, then it's wide open.

    Very well then, FJ... why do you think they want to be able to have access to the cellphones when they already have it by using the legal channels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    If you defeat the encryption between the phone and the tower, then it's wide open.

    Very well then, FJ... why do you think they want to be able to have access to the cellphones when they already have it by using the legal channels?
    It sounds like there is encryption in place that defeats the warrant. But I couldn't tease out the technical details, I'm sure you'd know that better than I.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    It sounds like there is encryption in place that defeats the warrant. But I couldn't tease out the technical details, I'm sure you'd know that better than I.
    Not at all. They can go down to the C.O. with their warrant and get that wiretap any time they want.

    The encryption is between the phone and the tower, not when it's running on the fiber and copper in the C.O. It's all internet data once it enters the tower with high priority for voice communications.
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    I could be wrong, but I didn't think this was about calls and intercepting and such, but more so about physical access to the phone. If locked, it cannot be unlocked with the developed and developing apps. The police, FBI and such don't like this, as it would leave them without a way to physically access, I suppose warrant or not. What they are looking for, is a back door from Apple, to where if the phone is locked, and they can't gain access, that they will be able to do so via the backdoor (with a warrant we all hope).

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Not at all. They can go down to the C.O. with their warrant and get that wiretap any time they want.

    The encryption is between the phone and the tower, not when it's running on the fiber and copper in the C.O. It's all internet data once it enters the tower with high priority for voice communications.
    OK. I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time this week.
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