Gays

[indago]

My wild guess is built on two assumptions -
1 - People who are emotionally/physically bullied are more likely to commit suicide.
2 - People who are LGBT+ are more likely to be bullied.

I don't think either of those assumptions are outrageous.

Then they should recognize that society does not accept their antics, and should seek help, or organize into a place where they can do their thing where all are the same.

[Noir]

Then they should recognize that society does not accept their antics, and should seek help, or organize into a place where they can do their thing where all are the same.

Of course! - Segregation, how did we never think of that before...

[Gunny]

Equal Protection is not apples and oranges, it's in the Constitution. But I would agree with you about keeping the Federal government out of the definition but they put themselves in the defining business when they started doling out benefits based upon citizens meeting the marriage definition... and of course if 10A meant anything in this country which it doesn't. Pie in the sky "supposed to be" really means nothing at this point.

And parades aren't really at the heart of the matter, they've been having parades for far longer than any state allowed gay marriage. The real answer to the question is the State really has no business in regulating the relationships of consenting adults.

So let's define this. I agree with you in principle, but not practice. The state can tell me whatever it deems it wants to, and I'm probably on video every step I take, but they can't regulate marriage? I personally don't care what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes. It's nobody's business. I don't walk into work and start bragging about what I did with my GF. I don't run around in the street dressed like Bozo the Clown in a G-string announcing my normalcy.

Legally, I agree with you. That's always been my stance. It isn't ME nor anyone that thinks like me. It's a small minority demanding attention and actually getting it. The crap is getting old. IMO, Madeleine Murray OHare got God's justice. Being a weirdo does NOT give you special rights under the Constitution. Being part of the majority DOES. You want to be weird? Accept the consequences. Geez, you should have heard what people said about weightlifters in the 70s. We were dumb. Could lift a ton but couldn't spell it.

Everybody's got an excuse to attack others. But I'm sick of these people whining like little bitches over someone attacking them. Get over it. Someone who is looking to find something wrong with you always will.

Look at our country. We cater to less than 20% of population. And we're about to have a criminal as a President. What does that say about us?

[fj1200]

In addition to being punished for their crime, fons are denied the right to vote.

I'm really not picking up where you're going with this. People who violate the law are subject to its punishments.

[fj1200]

Then they should recognize that society does not accept their antics, and should seek help, or organize into a place where they can do their thing where all are the same.

As I've shown, much of society isn't concerned with their "antics" and acceptance grows with every generation.

[fj1200]

So let's define this. I agree with you in principle, but not practice. The state can tell me whatever it deems it wants to, and I'm probably on video every step I take, but they can't regulate marriage? I personally don't care what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes. It's nobody's business. I don't walk into work and start bragging about what I did with my GF. I don't run around in the street dressed like Bozo the Clown in a G-string announcing my normalcy.

Legally, I agree with you. That's always been my stance. It isn't ME nor anyone that thinks like me. It's a small minority demanding attention and actually getting it. The crap is getting old. IMO, Madeleine Murray OHare got God's justice. Being a weirdo does NOT give you special rights under the Constitution. Being part of the majority DOES. You want to be weird? Accept the consequences. Geez, you should have heard what people said about weightlifters in the 70s. We were dumb. Could lift a ton but couldn't spell it.

Everybody's got an excuse to attack others. But I'm sick of these people whining like little bitches over someone attacking them. Get over it. Someone who is looking to find something wrong with you always will.

Look at our country. We cater to less than 20% of population. And we're about to have a criminal as a President. What does that say about us?

PP1 - IMO the state should regulate contracts which is where the state's concerns with marriage should end. Two consenting adults engaging in an agreement of a personal nature that may very well have children as part of a dissolution.

PP2 - The only right being in the majority gets you is your preferred candidate is elected to represent you in the halls of government. Being in the majority doesn't get you special rights and we're in agreement that neither does being in the minority.

PP3 & 4 - I think we're in agreement.

[Abbey Marie]

I'm really not picking up where you're going with this. People who violate the law are subject to its punishments.

Prison is punishment for crime. Not being allowed to vote is denying a right that almost everyone has.

[fj1200]

Prison is punishment for crime. Not being allowed to vote is denying a right that almost everyone has.

Yes, everyone is extended the same rights until their punishment is meted out.

[indago]

From The Associated Press 17 May 2016:
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A gay Texas pastor who sued Whole Foods after he bought a cake that he alleged had a slur written on it in icing has dropped his lawsuit against the grocer. Jordan Brown of Austin dropped the suit and issued an apology on Monday. Brown said he was "wrong to pursue this matter and use the media to perpetuate this story."
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Whole Foods should vigorously pursue their lawsuit against him for the defamation that he caused.

[Gunny]

PP1 - IMO the state should regulate contracts which is where the state's concerns with marriage should end. Two consenting adults engaging in an agreement of a personal nature that may very well have children as part of a dissolution.

PP2 - The only right being in the majority gets you is your preferred candidate is elected to represent you in the halls of government. Being in the majority doesn't get you special rights and we're in agreement that neither does being in the minority.

PP3 & 4 - I think we're in agreement.

Being in the majority does not give you special rights. I agree with that. It gives you right of democracy. That's not special. It's a rule of law that the left has convoluted by special legislation.

I could care less about civil unions. This is a contrived war over a word. That was said a decade ago but the gays weren't happy until they usurped the word "marriage". That's tyranny of the minority. Nothing democratic about THAT.

[indago]

From The Associated Press 19 May 2016:
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Amid shouts of 'shame,' House GOP defeats gay rights measure — Democrats shouted "Shame! Shame!," but seven Republicans switched their votes under pressure from House leaders Thursday and defeated a measure to protect gay rights.
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[Atticus Finch]

The main problem with democracy is that it allows for tyranny by majority.

As opposed to tyranny by the minority?...the needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few

[Black Diamond]

As opposed to tyranny by the minority?...the needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few

Good evening Mr Spock.

[Black Diamond]

Yes, everyone is extended the same rights until their punishment is meted out.

Using that model, if you're on parole you can't vote.

[Atticus Finch]

Good evening Mr Spock.

Live long and prosper.