This is shameful

[fj1200]

[Abbey Marie]

I think the very DAY he made Captain, he should have been irreversibly entitled to a Captain-level pension. Knocking it down to a lower level is wrong. Seems like he should have grounds for a lawsuit based on that denial.

[fj1200]

I think the very DAY he made Captain, he should have been irreversibly entitled to a Captain-level pension. knocking it down to a lower level is wrong. Seems like he should have grounds for a lawsuit based on that denial.

Why? Seems like common practice. It would keep people from retiring two weeks after being promoted.

[gabosaurus]

Why is it acceptable for every employer in the country (including the government) to downsize their work force except the military?

[jimnyc]

Why is it acceptable for every employer in the country (including the government) to downsize their work force except the military?

Because those other jobs are not placing their lives on the line? Other than police and firemen and similar, and I'm willing to wager folks think they should get similar treatment. Many of these folks gave their entire lives, and can get screwed going into retirement.

[gabosaurus]

Because those other jobs are not placing their lives on the line? Other than police and firemen and similar, and I'm willing to wager folks think they should get similar treatment. Many of these folks gave their entire lives, and can get screwed going into retirement.

There are tons of people out there who have given their entire lives to their employers and ended out on the street. They pay into retirement plans and set back money and still end up with nothing. They are out on the street with few options.
One positive part of the military as that it teaches you specific skills. You are much more employable than others that lose their jobs.

[aboutime]

Why is it acceptable for every employer in the country (including the government) to downsize their work force except the military?

Gabby. Instead of dialing 911, or expecting to keep you, and your family safe according to the constitution. The answer to your question should be. How SAFE would you feel calling MACDONALDS, asking one of their workers to protect you and your family?

This is just another case of YOU proving to all of us. How literally DUMB you really are. Despite your claims of education.

[tailfins]

There are tons of people out there who have given their entire lives to their employers and ended out on the street. They pay into retirement plans and set back money and still end up with nothing. They are out on the street with few options.
One positive part of the military as that it teaches you specific skills. You are much more employable than others that lose their jobs.

That's why you work to please the market and not necessarily your employer. One's daily focus should be on having the most marketable skills you can muster. Don't let your employer's way of doing things trump the market's way for more than a very short time. Complacency leads to poverty.

[Abbey Marie]

Why? Seems like common practice. It would keep people from retiring two weeks after being promoted.

It is usually up to the employer to determine who deserves promotion (unless a union interferes). If they misread an employee that badly, then it's tough. Is it your contention that we should deny so many their earned levels because of a few bad apples?

[fj1200]

It is usually up to the employer to determine who deserves promotion (unless a union interferes). If they misread an employee that badly, then it's tough. Is it your contention that we should deny so many their earned levels because of a few bad apples?

Who says that they're bad apples? It's my contention that they have rules for a reason and that people would wait for a promotion to retire. My understanding is that private sector pensions are based on the last X years of service and have an averaging of sorts built in.

[BoogyMan]

Why is it acceptable for every employer in the country (including the government) to downsize their work force except the military?

Because those other "employers" are not charged with the defense of our nation. When the Marxist left-wing scourge of filth that infests DC constantly cuts our defense there will at some point in the future be a reckoning with those in the real world who want to see America fall.

[aboutime]

Because those other "employers" are not charged with the defense of our nation. When the Marxist left-wing scourge of filth that infests DC constantly cuts our defense there will at some point in the future be a reckoning with those in the real world who want to see America fall.

BoogyMan. Don't listen to gabby. She's just a trouble-making, non-thinker, who hates anything, or anyone YOU or I know.

Wonder if she would be asking the same question about downsizing the military if ISIS moved into her Luxurious neighborhood, and began to Behead the Self-proclaimed, Smartest, and Richest Americans first?

Liberals always use the military as their target. On one hand they CLAIM to Love, Admire, and Support the Military. While, at the very same time. They hide the knives behind their back they would use to CUT out large sections of the Military they pretend to love.

Dementia, and Stupidity work hand-in-hand...LIBERALLY SPEAKING.

[Abbey Marie]

Who says that they're bad apples? It's my contention that they have rules for a reason and that people would wait for a promotion to retire. My understanding is that private sector pensions are based on the last X years of service and have an averaging of sorts built in.

You were the one who brought up the immediate retirement as a problem. If you think they're not bad apples for retiring immediately after promotion, then where's the problem? Pay them based on the rank at which they retired.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Because those other "employers" are not charged with the defense of our nation. When the Marxist left-wing scourge of filth that infests DC constantly cuts our defense there will at some point in the future be a reckoning with those in the real world who want to see America fall.

Same happened prior to WW2.. The same type of people and politicians had gotten their way and our military was drastically downsized and very ill equipped. It cost us very dearly the first year of the war.
Nothing new here, we've always had ignorant folks screaming for a weak military but they are the first to scream for protection when things get rough. Most are short sighted fools, yet some are enemies of this nation and all it stands for. Those are the ones that need a serious attitude adjustment with a size 12 boot stuck up their ass on a daily basis IMHO.
Dem party champions a vastly weaker military-- need I say more?-Tyr

[fj1200]

You were the one who brought up the immediate retirement as a problem. If you think they're not bad apples for retiring immediately after promotion, then where's the problem? Pay them based on the rank at which they retired.

I would imagine that the Army would have a problem with it. Why should they get captain's retirement for two weeks at captain. I would think it wise to require someone to earn a captain's retirement by being captain for a significant period of time. My guess? The Army agrees.