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[Drummond]

Yes, you failing to prove your lies is usually where you give up. This is where you are currently failing.

... Like, your lie about how the British economy was heading in the same general direction as Greece's .. ?

Rise to the challenge or admit your wrong.

Labour is strongly against our Conservatives' austerity measures. Do you now claim NOT to be ?

Conservatives understand economics, you don't

Correct. Our Conservatives DO. They've been proving it through their methodology since 2010.

And you've been defying their expertise.

What works? See Reagan in '81. See '94 Republican Congress. They didn't succumb to ridiculous "black hole"/must be afforded BS, they knew that to stimulate the economy tax cuts were the way to go.

The US economy can withstand blows to it which smaller economies cannot. But you, as the 'conservative' that you are NOT, totally fail to grasp that.

Tax cuts may very well achieve the long term benefits you have in mind. I'm not trying to deny it. BUT, what happens in the interim, while the 'black hole' persists ?

The US economy can shrug off such worries. Smaller economies cannot. THAT is the big and crucial difference.

But, you couldn't care less about any of that. Attacking our Conservatives is all you've cared to do, at the expense of wider realities.

[fj1200]

... Like, your lie about how the British economy was heading in the same general direction as Greece's .. ?

Labour is strongly against our Conservatives' austerity measures. Do you now claim NOT to be ?

Correct. Our Conservatives DO. They've been proving it through their methodology since 2010.

And you've been defying their expertise.

The US economy can withstand blows to it which smaller economies cannot. But you, as the 'conservative' that you are NOT, totally fail to grasp that.

Tax cuts may very well achieve the long term benefits you have in mind. I'm not trying to deny it. BUT, what happens in the interim, while the 'black hole' persists ?

The US economy can shrug off such worries. Smaller economies cannot. THAT is the big and crucial difference.

But, you couldn't care less about any of that. Attacking our Conservatives is all you've cared to do, at the expense of wider realities.

It's not a lie to make a prediction you blinkered idiot. One I'm happy to say won't come to fruition because of the embracing of tax cuts.

Your failure is showing again. I said point out where I'm "fully in agreement." I'm happy the UK finally instituted tax cuts, I'm guessing Labour is not "fully in agreement." So go ahead and admit you're wrong.

I said "you don't understand economics." Osborne appears to have a better handle on things since he decided to cut taxes. That expertise I applaud because they have been proving it. Since 2012 though.

Your "smaller economies" argument is a load of crap. Let alone that ridiculous 'black hole' argument. The laws of economics aren't radically different based on the size of the country. But way to deflect that you have Democrat arguments.

You've also failed to point out me "attacking" your British conservatives. Admit you're wrong fool.

[Drummond]

It's not a lie to make a prediction you blinkered idiot.

It is, when that 'prediction' is supported ONLY by your continued attack on our Conservatives, and AGAINST all the emerging evidence of how the UK's economy was beginning to undergo a RECOVERY !

One I'm happy to say won't come to fruition because of the embracing of tax cuts.

You're mucking about with context, not to mention the proper chronology. Our Conservatives had no intention of instituting any form of tax cut, FOR AS LONG AS THE ECONOMY WAS TOO WEAK TO TAKE THE EXPENDITURE REQUIRED. And, neither DID they.

I'm happy the UK finally instituted tax cuts

See the comment just made.

YOU wanted such cuts BEFORE there was a possibility of them being affordable, and it's this brand of recklessness that reflects Labour's former own recklessness.

I'm guessing Labour is not "fully in agreement." So go ahead and admit you're wrong.

Labour will never agree with anything the Conservatives do ... because their mission is one of perpetual one-upmanship against their opposition. Labour doesn't care that their version of it has no honour to it. This is because they're Socialist trash.

I said "you don't understand economics." Osborne appears to have a better handle on things since he decided to cut taxes. That expertise I applaud because they have been proving it. Since 2012 though.

Putting it another way, you've been in DISagreement with our Conservatives since they STARTED their austerity programme (IN 2010), and you've maintained that disagreement for as long as they've been instituting the conditions from which our economy has had the basis for recovery.

HOW VERY LEFT WING OF YOU.

You only see room for agreement with them when they take an action which defies their former 'Thatcheresque' fiscal prudence.

HOW VERY UN-THATCHERITE OF YOU.

Your "smaller economies" argument is a load of crap. Let alone that ridiculous 'black hole' argument. The laws of economics aren't radically different based on the size of the country. But way to deflect that you have Democrat arguments.

Seriously .. you think that stronger and richer economies don't have a better capacity to ride out fiscal shortfalls ??

That defies all logic.

Imagine Greece's Government deciding to suspend taxation to its citizens, and thus to forego ALL of the revenue it could bring them. You think, seriously, that Greece will find its fortunes IMPROVING through LOSING a much-needed source of income ???

You've also failed to point out me "attacking" your British conservatives. Admit you're wrong fool.

You DENY disapproving of their chief 2010 economic manifesto pledge, and doing so at enormous length .. predicting a 'doom and gloom' outcome from it, IN DEFIANCE OF TRUTH ?

[aboutime]

Careful now my friend. The fj thinks you are a banana!

Do not interfere in his fruit fantasy, you know how those fruity guys get.. -Tyr

Tyr. Not concerned, or worried about fj at all. I've stated my feelings about him many times. Never lied once about him. And he has never Once, proven any of my statements about him...to be false.

Broken records just keep on thumpin' along. That's how fj sounds, and everyone should just let him go.

[fj1200]

It is, when that 'prediction' is supported ONLY by your continued attack on our Conservatives, and AGAINST all the emerging evidence of how the UK's economy was beginning to undergo a RECOVERY !

Listen up idiot. I didn't attack British Conservatives, I pointed out that they chose a poor plan and pointed out why. The problem with austerity is that it doesn't work, cutting spending and raising taxes does not work and I demonstrated it as did the Brits because of their perpetual extending of austerity... until they went the tax cut route that is.

You're mucking about with context, not to mention the proper chronology. Our Conservatives had no intention of instituting any form of tax cut, FOR AS LONG AS THE ECONOMY WAS TOO WEAK TO TAKE THE EXPENDITURE REQUIRED. And, neither DID they.

Thank you for bolding a stupid comment.

See the comment just made.

YOU wanted such cuts BEFORE there was a possibility of them being affordable, and it's this brand of recklessness that reflects Labour's former own recklessness.

Affordable? You sound like a Democrat you moron. Conservatives, real ones anyway, understand supply-side economics.

Labour will never agree with anything the Conservatives do ... because their mission is one of perpetual one-upmanship against their opposition. Labour doesn't care that their version of it has no honour to it. This is because they're Socialist trash.

I really don't care what Labour does.

Putting it another way, you've been in DISagreement with our Conservatives since they STARTED their austerity programme (IN 2010), and you've maintained that disagreement for as long as they've been instituting the conditions from which our economy has had the basis for recovery.

HOW VERY LEFT WING OF YOU.

You only see room for agreement with them when they take an action which defies their former 'Thatcheresque' fiscal prudence.

HOW VERY UN-THATCHERITE OF YOU.

This is where you turn into a lying sack. I obviously disagree with austerity but I fully agree with their tax cuts. If you weren't such an honourless, incompetent fool you'd recognize the truth. But you're too stupid to admit when you're wrong.

Seriously .. you think that stronger and richer economies don't have a better capacity to ride out fiscal shortfalls ??

That defies all logic.

Imagine Greece's Government deciding to suspend taxation to its citizens, and thus to forego ALL of the revenue it could bring them. You think, seriously, that Greece will find its fortunes IMPROVING through LOSING a much-needed source of income ???

What kind of idiot are you? Who suggested that anyone "suspend taxation"? It takes someone as stupid as you to make that sort of argument. The UK economy with a $2 1/2 TT GDP, interests rates around 3% and falling back then, and a AAA rating could ride out a middling shortfall to encourage a stronger economy.

You DENY disapproving of their chief 2010 economic manifesto pledge, and doing so at enormous length .. predicting a 'doom and gloom' outcome from it, IN DEFIANCE OF TRUTH ?

I reiterate my stance.

You've also failed to point out me "attacking" your British conservatives. Admit you're wrong fool.

You're nothing but a cop out.

[Drummond]

Listen up idiot. I didn't attack British Conservatives, I pointed out that they chose a poor plan and pointed out why. The problem with austerity is that it doesn't work, cutting spending and raising taxes does not work and I demonstrated it as did the Brits because of their perpetual extending of austerity... until they went the tax cut route that is.

Simply bizarre. You say you 'didn't attack British Conservatives', and then go on to describe the basics of your attack !!

Our Conservatives made their austerity programme central to their entire five year term in office. They are still committed to making it work. You, however, have done your utmost to rubbish it all, choosing instead suggestions which far more resemble the extent of recklessness that Labour prefer. You and Labour oppose it equally strongly.

You oppose the Conservative plan, telling untruths about its so-called 'lack' of viability, EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN A SUCCESS. And you won't acknowledge how wrong you've been ... again, just like your Socialist chums.

Affordable? You sound like a Democrat you moron. Conservatives, real ones anyway, understand supply-side economics.

Conservatives don't go around recklessly wrecking weak economies. They face the realities involved. You, and Socialists, do not.

I really don't care what Labour does.

Yet your mindsets are so very similar ???

This is where you turn into a lying sack. I obviously disagree with austerity

... despite how central it's been to Conservative strategy in the UK. EXACTLY.

but I fully agree with their tax cuts. If you weren't such an honourless, incompetent fool you'd recognize the truth. But you're too stupid to admit when you're wrong.

Austerity HAS WORKED. Hence how any tax cuts have been AT ALL affordable.

And we have an election looming. I'm sure such tax cuts are an election sweetener. And are indulged in, in order to put the Conservatives back on track, following an election victory.

What kind of idiot are you?

The kind who stupidly thinks that commonsense can have the slightest impact on you.

[fj1200]

Simply bizarre. You say you 'didn't attack British Conservatives', and then go on to describe the basics of your attack !!

Our Conservatives made their austerity programme central to their entire five year term in office. They are still committed to making it work. You, however, have done your utmost to rubbish it all, choosing instead suggestions which far more resemble the extent of recklessness that Labour prefer. You and Labour oppose it equally strongly.

You oppose the Conservative plan, telling untruths about its so-called 'lack' of viability, EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN A SUCCESS. And you won't acknowledge how wrong you've been ... again, just like your Socialist chums.

I didn't attack you blinkered idiot, I expressed a different opinion. My opinion which was proved correct and now Osborne embraces tax cuts; good on him and the Conservatives. You are one dumb-*** idiot to keep going down that road.

Conservatives don't go around recklessly wrecking weak economies. They face the realities involved. You, and Socialists, do not.

Just like Reagan recklessly weakened the US economy in the early 80's. History owns your viewpoint you mindless moron.

Yet your mindsets are so very similar ???

Only to complete and utter fools like you who have no idea how to read and let themselves be led around by their incompetent imaginations.

... despite how central it's been to Conservative strategy in the UK. EXACTLY.

My god you're frigging stupid. You don't even understand what your own country is doing. Are you even British? I've always considered Brits to be smarter than your average bear but you are a complete fool.

Austerity HAS WORKED. Hence how any tax cuts have been AT ALL affordable.

And we have an election looming. I'm sure such tax cuts are an election sweetener. And are indulged in, in order to put the Conservatives back on track, following an election victory.

You keep droning on with the same mindless crap I've already refuted. Tell us again how Reagan wasn't a conservative.

The kind who stupidly thinks that commonsense can have the slightest impact on you.

You don't know a whit about common sense. You can't even back up your own ignorant statements. Admit you're wrong you idiot.