Obama: Europe should better integrate Muslims

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

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`Alright ....TY...stop `playin` around with him and get some work done...or posting new threads!

What a cruel taskmaster you are!! --Tyr

[fj1200]

fj...lives to argue ..on and on and on........

The first rule of knucklehead is to never argue with knuckleheads. No matter the hypocrisy required.

That he does in spades! I answered his question about integrating muslim, he just didn't like my answer.
I replied that the answer is not to integrate but to start kicking the caner out because it will never integrate. The muslim cancer's agenda is to conquer, subdue and turn Europe into the Sharia controlled hellholes these vermin supposedly fled from!
fj is a bit too dense to comprehend that , so I get his usual complaint that I dodged his question.

I did also mention killing the "murdering bastards" too but apparently fj disagrees with other people(non-muslims) actually surviving!!!!! Go figure on that one!--Tyr

I merely pointed out it was a stupid answer and intellectually inconsistent. And of course your answer previous wasn't anything close to your new answer. Of course you and the knuckleheads are incapable of comprehending discussion that doesn't originate from a full blown rantical so I shouldn't have been surprised. It's hard to rant and be consistent at the same time; you excel at the former but are lacking in the latter.

[aboutime]

The first rule of knucklehead is to never argue with knuckleheads. No matter the hypocrisy required.



I merely pointed out it was a stupid answer and intellectually inconsistent. And of course your answer previous wasn't anything close to your new answer. Of course you and the knuckleheads are incapable of comprehending discussion that doesn't originate from a full blown rantical so I shouldn't have been surprised. It's hard to rant and be consistent at the same time; you excel at the former but are lacking in the latter.

So, fj. You are telling all of us to stop arguing with YOU! Finally. We all have our marching orders from the leading knucklehead. Bye fj.

[Drummond]

Of course you stand by your comments. You're an idiot with no ability to learn or admit when you're wrong. You'll take any excuse to jump off into nonsensical rant even one you make up.

Er'm ... this is ME you're talking about ??

But yes, a way to debate is to actually debate. Unfortunately you are intellectually incapable of engaging in such. I like to engage in the dialectic (it's a big word, look it up) which is pointless when you don't have the ability to keep up. Ranting is not debate as much as you'd like to think it is.

Incredible that you have the nerve to post this. YOU are the one who avoids debate whenever you're in the smallest danger of being bested (.. which is why you resort to so much of your lame diversions instead ..).

I don't have to post details. We all know what they'd be ...

[Drummond]

What? Jealous that you have so little validation of your comments/views by fellow members here?
Here is a big hint on that topic. Try being honest, truthful and not a spin master...
That is, if you can ever pull off such a miracle.. --Tyr

[Drummond]

fj...lives to argue ..on and on and on........

Actually, I think that, chiefly, FJ lives to exercise his ego. He'll argue when he thinks the result serves his ego. When it doesn't (.. which is all too often ..) he'll fall back on his lame idea of how to exercise one-upmanship, instead.

Such a sad case ...

[fj1200]

Incredible that you have the nerve to post this. YOU are the one who avoids debate...

I was hopeful that you grew beyond your normal blather during your time off. Misplaced hope it was. Nevertheless I merely post truth, truth you're unable to understand because it's conservative truth.

[Drummond]

I was hopeful that you grew beyond your normal blather during your time off. Misplaced hope it was. Nevertheless I merely post truth, truth you're unable to understand because it's conservative truth.

'Truth', eh ? You seriously claim to 'merely post truth' .. ???

I think my favourite example of your 'untruths' was when, on another thread, you insisted that the British economy was doing badly, with 'Austerity' measures being the problem. You reckoned, and insisted, that the UK was on the path to duplicate Greece's fate. Whereas in fact, the opposite is true .. compared with most other European nations, we're doing particularly well !! Inflation, now, is nearly zero .. it is thought we'll achieve negative inflation later this year.

I believe your ridiculous attack on Government policy came about because it was our Conservatives who were directing it, insisting that no other sensible alternative existed. After all, your own ideas had more in common with the greater recklessness of our SOCIALISTS.

But - how about this thread ?? So 'dedicated' are you to the task of 'merely posting truth', that you can't even accurately render a duplication of others' posts !! Here, as is so often true, you choose to post a derisorily edited version of them, instead ....

Truth, FJ ? 'You can't handle the truth' .......

[fj1200]

More cowardice that you can't even bring up that thread that you need to trash up another thread with your ignorant rantings and lying about what I posted. I posted that "austerity sucks" and thankfully the UK moved away from it. It's all detailed in the other thread that you're scared of. Your ignorance of economics is detailed here:

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...ion-plot-in-UK

[Drummond]

More cowardice that you can't even bring up that thread that you need to trash up another thread with your ignorant rantings and lying about what I posted. I posted that "austerity sucks" and thankfully the UK moved away from it. It's all detailed in the other thread that you're scared of. Your ignorance of economics is detailed here:

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...ion-plot-in-UK

MY ignorance of economics ?? If 'austerity sucks', how come IT'S WORKING ??

And your departure from the truth in your last post only goes to illustrate your dedication towards attacking our Conservatives. You say the UK 'moved away from it' .. ?? WHAT ROT. In fact, I'm sure that in the forthcoming election debates, one hotly contested discussion topic will be how much LONGER it'll all have to be persevered with.

Dated this month:-

http://www.infocreditgroup.com/News/...ts-yet-to-come

The Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) has said that the worst of the UK's spending cuts are still to come.
Its Green Budget, which looks at options and issues ahead of next month's Budget, says the UK's finances still have "a long way to go".

To meet plans announced in last year's Autumn Statement departmental spending cuts of £51.4bn, or 14.1%, are needed in the next parliament, the IFS said.

Cuts in the current parliament are expected to reach £38.3bn, or 9.5%.

The IFS said that over the next four years the UK is planning the largest fiscal consolidation out of 32 advanced economies.

It would mean public spending falling to its lowest share of national income since at least 1948, and fewer people working in the public sector than at any time since at least 1971.

But the report is optimistic about UK growth, estimating zero inflation and 3% growth this year.

Andrew Goodwin, senior economist at Oxford Economics and co-author of a chapter in the Green Budget, said: "The prognosis for the UK economy is pretty upbeat", and he predicted "a big turnaround in household finances" over the next year.

Let's see if you can handle THAT truth ... or, if your need to further attack our Conservatives will prove more important to you, instead ...

[aboutime]

Er'm ... this is ME you're talking about ??



Incredible that you have the nerve to post this. YOU are the one who avoids debate whenever you're in the smallest danger of being bested (.. which is why you resort to so much of your lame diversions instead ..).

I don't have to post details. We all know what they'd be ...

Sounds very much like fj's daily med doses have run out, and his supplier of stupid pills tricked him again.

[fj1200]

MY ignorance of economics ?? If 'austerity sucks', how come IT'S WORKING ??

And your departure from the truth in your last post only goes to illustrate your dedication towards attacking our Conservatives. You say the UK 'moved away from it' .. ?? WHAT ROT. In fact, I'm sure that in the forthcoming election debates, one hotly contested discussion topic will be how much LONGER it'll all have to be persevered with.

Dated this month:-

Let's see if you can handle THAT truth ... or, if your need to further attack our Conservatives will prove more important to you, instead ...

Paying attention was never your strong suit. I said austerity, cutting spending and RAISING taxes, sucks. I didn't say just cutting spending sucks or just raising taxes sucks, I said both, together, suck (although tax increases suck almost all of the time but you do find yourself supporting them as a big government hack would do). Thank goodness Britain is not doing that. Of course I pointed all of this out in the other thread but you apparently prefer sticking your head in the sand and resorting to being a lying sack. This is what the UK has actually been doing:

But a stalled economic recovery, rising unemployment, falling tax revenue and struggling households led Mr. Osborne to offer some concessions in the budget he presented to Parliament.
Mr. Osborne reduced the top income tax bracket to 45 percent from 50 percent, a step that was heavily criticized by the Labour Party. He also raised the income level at which people start paying taxes, cut child benefits for those making more than £60,000, cut corporate taxes and raised the tax rate on homes sold for more than £2 million, or $3.2 million.

That first paragraph? Because austerity sucked and wasn't working. The second paragraph? The one with the tax cuts shows moving away from austerity as I defined it oh so long ago shows what works; tax cuts. Tax cuts are conservative, you prattling away ignorantly is not conservative.

[Drummond]

Paying attention was never your strong suit. I said austerity, cutting spending and RAISING taxes, sucks. I didn't say just cutting spending sucks or just raising taxes sucks, I said both, together, suck (although tax increases suck almost all of the time but you do find yourself supporting them as a big government hack would do). Thank goodness Britain is not doing that. Of course I pointed all of this out in the other thread but you apparently prefer sticking your head in the sand and resorting to being a lying sack. This is what the UK has actually been doing:



That first paragraph? Because austerity sucked and wasn't working. The second paragraph? The one with the tax cuts shows moving away from austerity as I defined it oh so long ago shows what works; tax cuts. Tax cuts are conservative, you prattling away ignorantly is not conservative.

Now you're trying to wriggle out of your older attacks against British Conservatives. You're not doing a convincing job of it.

You developed your twin points over a period of time. However, your central theme was always your 'Austerity Sucks' mantra .. and our Coalition Government has been committed to following through with its austerity programme throughout the lifetime of its existence.

It STILL IS committed to that path, despite any suggestion from you to the contrary.

As I argued before .. no Conservative likes either high taxation, or to raise taxes. That said ... in an austerity scenario, you do what you must to make it work. And as I tried to explain before, tax cuts can only be employed IF CONDITIONS ALLOW FOR IT, i.e if any can be afforded.

The big difficulty with inheriting and managing a weak economy is that they CANNOT BE. So, since Conservatives are realists .. in a way that you are most certainly NOT .. they only consider such a measure if it's affordable.

Our Socialists, along with yourself, refused to grasp this 'affordability' aspect of the problem. To you both, fiscal recklessness is the way to go.

And it was that Leftie irresponsibility that got us into such an acute mess in the first place.

Despite how you're now arguing your case, you have NOT departed from that thinking. You don't really care about fiscal prudence. You refuse to adopt such a responsible approach to it in your thinking. Both you and our Labour Party are fundamentally wedded to the 'spend today, hope for the best tomorrow' nonsense that austerity measures are designed to OVERCOME AND REPAIR.

You should now rethink your Leftie idiocy. If, in fact, you can. Conservatives are, first and foremost, REALISTS -- we will do what we MUST to win the day. We have our ideological preferences, and we are true to them to the best of our abilities ... BUT ... we aren't blind to the demands of the real world.

[fj1200]

Now you're trying to wriggle out of your older attacks against British Conservatives.

Was there anything in that post that didn't prove you to be a lying sack? Because you are one dumb-ass idiot. And a hypocrite to boot. Your failure is already detailed in the previously mentioned thread... and all the other threads that you ran away from.

[aboutime]

Now you're trying to wriggle out of your older attacks against British Conservatives. You're not doing a convincing job of it.

You developed your twin points over a period of time. However, your central theme was always your 'Austerity Sucks' mantra .. and our Coalition Government has been committed to following through with its austerity programme throughout the lifetime of its existence.

It STILL IS committed to that path, despite any suggestion from you to the contrary.

As I argued before .. no Conservative likes either high taxation, or to raise taxes. That said ... in an austerity scenario, you do what you must to make it work. And as I tried to explain before, tax cuts can only be employed IF CONDITIONS ALLOW FOR IT, i.e if any can be afforded.

The big difficulty with inheriting and managing a weak economy is that they CANNOT BE. So, since Conservatives are realists .. in a way that you are most certainly NOT .. they only consider such a measure if it's affordable.

Our Socialists, along with yourself, refused to grasp this 'affordability' aspect of the problem. To you both, fiscal recklessness is the way to go.

And it was that Leftie irresponsibility that got us into such an acute mess in the first place.

Despite how you're now arguing your case, you have NOT departed from that thinking. You don't really care about fiscal prudence. You refuse to adopt such a responsible approach to it in your thinking. Both you and our Labour Party are fundamentally wedded to the 'spend today, hope for the best tomorrow' nonsense that austerity measures are designed to OVERCOME AND REPAIR.

You should now rethink your Leftie idiocy. If, in fact, you can. Conservatives are, first and foremost, REALISTS -- we will do what we MUST to win the day. We have our ideological preferences, and we are true to them to the best of our abilities ... BUT ... we aren't blind to the demands of the real world.

Sir Drummond. Risking repeating myself here. fj can't help it. You will never convince him about anything. His Obama mind slows down his fj butt.