Justice Dept spies on millions of cars

[jimnyc]

Concerning bringing up different issues other than the OP.

Yes, "publicly available" because it accesses information of those driving down the public roads. You are more than Constitutionally able to sit in your lawn chair and right down the license plate number of every car that drives by.

IMO... The state owns the plates, it's a privilege to drive and have registration with the state. They already have the information on EVERY vehicle out there.

Maybe they should take those databases and throw them away, let the police gather information themselves? Maybe a class action lawsuit against the DMV for illegally collecting information and sharing it with the appropriate authorities? In fact, I think going forward that folks shouldn't even have to register, as it's a violation of my privacy.

[aboutime]

This link is for everyone on this thread who is concerned about maintaining their privacy according to the 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

Truth is. If you are worried about the Police, or Govt. having access to your information.

That is just Small Fish, compared to what this link gives EVERYONE.....http://www.foia.gov/

[revelarts]

Concerning bringing up different issues other than the OP.

FJ you brought up DNA not me.
You said ."A DNA database is also precedence and I haven't heard the Constitutional argument against that."

so i pointed out several constitutional cases and otherwise..
are you saying you get to bring a topic up in defense of your position but no one can reply?

Yes, "publicly available" because it accesses information of those driving down the public roads. You are more than Constitutionally able to sit in your lawn chair and right down the license plate number of every car that drives by.

And if individual cops want to sit by the side of the road and do the same they can too.
But if they are passing the info around the country in a database WE all get to be in the loop as well. And other leos need to get a warrant for the info.

And to Jim's point, Frankly Driving is not a privilege. it is in fact a right. a legal right. though one we've not exercised so it's been Assumed that the state grants the privilege. that's color of law not law. the only people that legally need a license for the roads and highways are those engaged in business. other than that the right to travel public roadways is a citizens right. even more-so since he pay for the land and roads and the state acts as the citizens agent.


But it seems assuming that the state works for us instead of the other way round doesn't makes sense to some folks.

[sundaydriver]

[QUOTE=fj1200;72247 Tracking is nothing more than a database.? [/QUOTE]

I bet with this data base the POPO could put in your license # and cross reference it to areas where crimes have been committed and link your car to at least 3 crime sites over time.

Pick em up for questioning. We've always been suspicious of him anyway.

[fj1200]

FJ you brought up DNA not me.
You said ."A DNA database is also precedence and I haven't heard the Constitutional argument against that."

so i pointed out several constitutional cases and otherwise..
are you saying you get to bring a topic up in defense of your position but no one can reply?

Yes, DNA is in a database. The cases you noted pertained to how DNA came to be in the database IIRC; they can't take it from you without a warrant but you don't need a warrant to watch someone drive their car. It's not a publicly available thing, DNA, like driving your car down the road is.

And if individual cops want to sit by the side of the road and do the same they can too.
But if they are passing the info around the country in a database WE all get to be in the loop as well. And other leos need to get a warrant for the info.

And to Jim's point, Frankly Driving is not a privilege. it is in fact a right. a legal right. though one we've not exercised so it's been Assumed that the state grants the privilege. that's color of law not law. the only people that legally need a license for the roads and highways are those engaged in business. other than that the right to travel public roadways is a citizens right. even more-so since he pay for the land and roads and the state acts as the citizens agent.


But it seems assuming that the state works for us instead of the other way round doesn't makes sense to some folks.

All I'm saying is it's not unconstitutional because you have no expectation of privacy driving your car down the road. Don't like it? Pass a law.

[debater]

Americans are so dead and degraded now that if the US Army liquidates Fargo tomorrow, no one would even shrug.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Americans are so dead and degraded now that if the US Army liquidates Fargo tomorrow, no one would even shrug.

Holy SHIT man... where in the FUCK did you come from?

Are you posting from a cell in an insane asylum?

[debater]

If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.

Where do you come up with this stuff?

You on some good shit or what?

[aboutime]

Americans are so dead and degraded now that if the US Army liquidates Fargo tomorrow, no one would even shrug.

Your jug of Kool-aid must have tipped over, and instead of drinking it...You have INHALED IT! Life for you sounds really miserable since Hillary..YOUR HERO lost. But we won't accept your misery, or negativity here. In fact. It's actually FUNNY.
<img src="https://pics.me.me/i-paid-over-300-million-to-fix-an-election-and-7125072.png">

[debater]

The elites laugh when the 99% are divided.

[aboutime]

The elites laugh when the 99% are divided.

Listen little, immature, progressive, propagandist idiot. You wish you had it so well wherever you happen to be. By the way. Your title of this thread is OLD NEWS.

You see...everyone who DRIVES anything, on any road in America has something called a License, both in cards, and the tags on their vehicle. So....of course....the Justice Dept. spies on millions of cars. To be exact...

Passenger vehicles in the United States - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passen..._United_States
Note: this article adopts the U.S. Department of Transportation's definition of a passenger ... Overall, there were an estimated 263.6 million registered passenger vehicles in the United States in 2015. .... Due to what many American consumers have perceived as a declining quality among the ..... Retrieved 2017-01-17.

[debater]

No one hates freedom more than Americans do.

[NightTrain]

No one hates freedom more than Americans do.

What would a Red Commie Chinese person know about freedom, other than you have none?

[aboutime]

No one hates freedom more than Americans do.

Funny how people like you hate Americans for even having more Freedom than you.

PROPAGANDA coming from you is as entertaining as Farting in a Space suit.