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    From the Ferguson report, issued by the DOJ:

    The Report concludes that in every dog bite incident reported, the person bitten was black.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/p...rguson-report/


    Pretty much all the people that have regularly practiced cannibalism are black.

    Perhaps black people taste better? Does anyone have any experience with this?


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    I must admit I like the dark meat on both chicken and turkey, but it has to be the day the meat is cooked or it tends to fry out.
    Never look down on someone unless you are helping them up

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    They point out so many instances where blacks were MORE of a target of sorts. Would ANY of it be explained by the fact that the blacks committed the majority of the crimes? I'm not saying it explains everything, but lets not lose sight of that fact and think that the police are 100% wrong here. They should be held accountable for what they did wrong - just as those committing crimes should be held accountable.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    denials and racial jokes.

    sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    denials and racial jokes.

    sad.
    Where is there denial? Is pointing out that there still remains guilty individuals, on top of any DOJ report, somehow denial of anything in the report?
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Where is there denial? Is pointing out that there still remains guilty individuals, on top of any DOJ report, somehow denial of anything in the report?
    well maybe denial was a bad choice of words.
    just seems sad to me that the 1st reactions is to try to find ways to make the police seem better than the report indicates before voicing any serious consideration or listing the police problems sited.

    And or assuming fault with the black people without any back-up to help clear some of the stink of the cops documented actions.

    you mention we can't assume that the police are 100% in the wrong. WTH? who claimed that Jim.
    Look police no matter how bad, do catch real criminals and write real tickets from time to time even in warlord run countries. So that really goes without saying. No one says EVERYTHING they did was wrong all the time. the problem has been they've denied ANY wrong doing. Some here have said that police are in the right 99.9% of the time. But the facts are showing that they are not close to that. how far off is the question. No one expects 100% either way.

    But one of the items up front in the report is the push FROM THE TOP for cops to get more revenue in by ticketing.
    If that's not a sign of 100% participation in bad policing I'm not sure what is. and that's just one issue.

    But the subject here in international news area of the bord is ---blacks taste good and maybe blacks deserved some of it.---

    sad.

    I ask some of you to try a mental exercise.
    switch the words Blacks with Irish if your imagination allows.
    if you switch the word Blacks with Jews, how does the report come across.

    Maybe Jews taste better?
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    I prefer Asian/ Pacific Islander, myself.
    And I had better or she will beat me.- --Tyr
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    I don't think that what's happening in Ferguson and other municipalities around the country is necessarily racism, but it is discrimination against the poor. This article lays it out quite well, with more policing and issuing of tickets/fines in poor areas, while not so much in well-to-do areas:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ism-ian-tuttle

    by IAN TUTTLE March 6, 2015 6:35 PM Predatory government burdens the most vulnerable. Occasionally even a blind squirrel finds a nut. And so, Eric Holder’s Justice Department has found an injustice. Only it’s not the one they think.

    The Department of Justice’s “Investigation of the Ferguson Police Department,” released this week, has been widely touted as incontrovertible evidence that Ferguson law enforcement is systemically racist, its Jim Crow–era animus expressed in policing practices targeting Ferguson’s majority-black population — this even though the Justice Department declined to charge Darren Wilson for a civil-rights violation in the shooting death of Michael Brown. Moreover, it is “important to understand [the] Ferguson Report not as an aberration, but how white supremacy actually works.” So tweeted The Atlantic’s Ta-Nehisi Coates. No doubt the report will feature prominently in discussions of this weekend’s commemoration of the 50th anniversary of Selma’s Bloody Sunday.

    But the report is hardly unassailable. As Manhattan Institute scholar Heather Mac Donald and many others have noted, the “disparate impact” criterion on which the report heavily relies compares the number of police interactions with blacks to the black population, when the meaningful statistic is the number of police interactions compared to the number of black lawbreakers. The report pointedly neglects that question. Of course, this is not to say racism is nonexistent in Ferguson. Certain bits of the corroborating evidence for the report’s allegations — noxious e-mails from Ferguson officials, for example, and the lack of disciplinary action taken against their senders — are repugnant.

    But what the material in the report reveals is less a culture of racial animus than one of predatory government: “Ferguson’s law enforcement practices,” states the report, “are shaped by the City’s focus on revenue rather than by public safety needs.” In the interest of expanding its treasury, Ferguson has employed its police department — 58 officers, policing a town of 21,000 — as an enforcer of the myriad municipal regulations that, rigorously enforced, nickel-and-dime the citizenry to the local government’s benefit. This is the injustice on which the Justice Department has stumbled, which helps to explain the city’s racial tensions — and which merits urgent correction.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I don't think that what's happening in Ferguson and other municipalities around the country is necessarily racism, but it is discrimination against the poor. This article lays it out quite well, with more policing and issuing of tickets/fines in poor areas, while not so much in well-to-do areas:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ism-ian-tuttle
    Why should we assume that it's not racism though Kath? If we're just making assumptions about the motives for the predatory policing. why give them the benny of the doubt? especially if we have evidence for racism via police e-mails.

    here's another question. Does using dogs on blacks only add to the revenue?
    It just seems a bit contrived to try and try and try to dismiss or minimize the racial aspects here.

    There are other cities where some police are out of control, and the population is mainly white. I've posted various incidents along that line as well. but in this case to try and explain it all away as just poverty and corruption is not a balanced way to view it seems to me.

    Should we claim that Louis Farakahn is primarily concerned about poverty and he's not REALLY into race, just a few statements here and there? Should we look and look for excuses for Farakahn instead of his racial statements and promote those and THE REAL issue that should be addresses and racial aspect dealt with but as a side show?

    If some take it to far in the other direction they should be corrected as well, but minimizing the racial aspects don't make them go away. And moves no one closer to positive solutions addressing the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    But the subject here in international news area of the bord is ---blacks taste good and maybe blacks deserved some of it.---

    sad.

    I ask some of you to try a mental exercise.
    switch the words Blacks with Irish if your imagination allows.
    if you switch the word Blacks with Jews, how does the report come across.

    Maybe Jews taste better?
    relevarts, I apologize if I offended you. This was intended as a joke. You gotta admit, sometimes blacks make it soooo easy to joke about them. I think they feel the same way about us regular Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I don't think that what's happening in Ferguson and other municipalities around the country is necessarily racism, but it is discrimination against the poor. This article lays it out quite well, with more policing and issuing of tickets/fines in poor areas, while not so much in well-to-do areas:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ism-ian-tuttle
    The promoted narrative doesn't have to be true , it just has to be sellable and advanced by the willing Obama enslaved/liberal media.
    Keeping the pot stirred helps Obama so the media willingly lies and obliges.
    Now DOJ had to admit no civil rights violation by the officer that shoot to scum criminal. Yet still the Obama admin pursues this to keep the unrest going.
    This thing once promised to be the great unifier has done nothing but divide.
    Yet the big question as to why he keeps dividing the nation is never asked nor is it pursued.....
    The answer is he divides to weaken!!!
    Which is exactly the opposite of the Oath of Office he took.
    Not a damn positive thing about him is true IMHO.. Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Why should we assume that it's not racism though Kath? If we're just making assumptions about the motives for the predatory policing. why give them the benny of the doubt? especially if we have evidence for racism via police e-mails.

    here's another question. Does using dogs on blacks only add to the revenue?
    It just seems a bit contrived to try and try and try to dismiss or minimize the racial aspects here.

    ...
    Very few things are as simple as they appear, certainly not these issues.

    Some want to say there is 0 racism, not true. Others claim everything is racist, not true.

    Until Obama's tenure, it appeared that institutional racism was down. Better policing overall, (the great exception being militarization of police), seemed to be growing.

    Personally I believe, based upon both studies and daily readings that most police are trying to do their best to 'serve and protect.' Others disagree. Some will take an incident, not wait for facts and condemn the police. (Obama certainly fits that mold, along with Holder.)

    I'm not saying, nor have I ever, that racism doesn't exist in the police community.

    I am saying that other factors are more significant: crime rates of low income, young males. Sub-categories within said group.

    Police focus on high crime areas-the gist of my OP in this thread.

    The diversity of the community being policed. The more economically diverse, the more the police will focus on those areas that are 'high crime.' The more the municipality will spend resources to 'protect' the higher income areas-to create 'safe haven and tax base.' This is seen in street lighting, safety officers, and profiling.


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    Deleted by Perianne; bad taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Very few things are as simple as they appear, certainly not these issues.
    Some want to say there is 0 racism, not true. Others claim everything is racist, not true.

    Until Obama's tenure, it appeared that institutional racism was down. Better policing overall, (the great exception being militarization of police), seemed to be growing...
    I'd suggest here that it just wasn't being brought to the larger publics attention. Reasonable Blacks have pointed it out consistently for decades to little press. During the Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush admins.
    I blame Obama for a lot of things but to say that the pest control guy who brings the report CAUSED the all termite damage we're looking at is not fair.

    again the idea that many southern white had about race in their day. "outside agitators stirring up all our good Negros"
    the assumption for them was that there wasn't really a problem. when the reality was it wasn't a problem FOR THEM.

    And your right the militrization of police has been going on across the board, as well as the lowering of standards of engagement.
    Police whistle blower Serpico mentioned that he was trained to fire into the air before firing at a fleeing suspect or one not in dangerous proximity. He says that's gone out the window, with the new standard being save yourself at any cost.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    I'd suggest here that it just wasn't being brought to the larger publics attention. Reasonable Blacks have pointed it out consistently for decades to little press. During the Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush admins.
    I blame Obama for a lot of things but to say that the pest control guy who brings the report CAUSED the all termite damage we're looking at is not fair.

    again the idea that many southern white had about race in their day. "outside agitators stirring up all our good Negros"
    the assumption for them was that there wasn't really a problem. when the reality was it wasn't a problem FOR THEM.

    And your right the militrization of police has been going on across the board, as well as the lowering of standards of engagement.
    Police whistle blower Serpico mentioned that he was trained to fire into the air before firing at a fleeing suspect or one not in dangerous proximity. He says that's gone out the window, with the new standard being save yourself at any cost.
    We disagree, other than on militarization and probably on no-knock warrants. Hopefully respectfully.


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