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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    Why are you afraid that we will go into Iran? We need to. We need to bomb them of the face of the Earth.
    Agreed:

    http://www.blackfive.net/main/2007/0...-bomb-the.html

    Can We Bomb (the hell out of) Iranian Military And Terrorist Camps Now?
    Posted By Blackfive

    See the guy in the photo next to Brigadier General Bergner? He's a senior leader of Hezbollah that we captured in March in Iraq conducting operations for the Iranians. While Iranian involvement has been a known quantity for some time (ask Bill Roggio), the fact that our forces are presenting it in this fashion gives hope that we'll be able to do something about it.

    Photo and story "Secret Cell Involvement in Iraq" by Sgt. Sky M. Laron, CPIC:

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    not afraid too. meant that i think we will, my bad. i totally agree with you NM, their leaders need to eat a cocked and loaded M1911. i am trying to get myself ready to join one of the services in fact.

    with all that in mind, i was talking about just global instability and people not likeing us with D. if we talk about just the ME and fighting there, i am for it.
    Does Monkeybone have to choke a bitch?
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    wouldn't them training and supplying like that be an act of war? by aiding them i mean
    Does Monkeybone have to choke a bitch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    Hate and fear are extremely strong emotions, we all know that. But the problem is that hate and fear together produce much aggression. When fear is greater than hatred, that's okay, but when hatred is greater then fear, there's the problem.
    Your logic, though, is based on a person of sound mind and reason, and one who prizes self-preservation. As we have seen the Islamists do not posess these qualitities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    Your logic, though, is based on a person of sound mind and reason, and one who prizes self-preservation. As we have seen the Islamists do not posess these qualitities.
    A good point indeed. Yes, we're not talking about rational individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    A good point indeed. Yes, we're not talking about rational individuals.
    That's why the policy of MAD, which worked so well with the USSR, has no chance with Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    Irecord I had a slight hangover). Why the hell he didn't stick it to bin Laden in Afghanistan/Pakistan is still beyond me. Anyway that's a reasonably objective response to your question.
    You hit the nail on the head there, buddy. The WOT is "beyond" most peaceniks. I suggest you catch up so you can discuss the problem with some understanding of the situation.

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    This conversation is so cool!!!!!!!! Is "WAR" an American value?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    This conversation is so cool!!!!!!!! Is "WAR" an American value?
    In a way, yes it is.

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    I hope you are just kidding.


    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    In a way, yes it is.
    This American Veteran of many American wars and otherwise skirmishes never considered WAR an American value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    This conversation is so cool!!!!!!!! Is "WAR" an American value?
    Actually freedom is an American value, which more often than not, requires war.

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    American freedom was secured with the signing of the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776. We've had a few wars directly related to that document since then but nothing that would relegate it useless.


    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    Actually freedom is an American value, which more often than not, requires war.
    Until now. gwb and his party of neverending power usurption has fought that document and all of it's aftermath documents such as the constitution and all of it's amendments for well over 200 years now.

    Do some history research, gm. It will grow you. And think about the values Americans most relish!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    American freedom was secured with the signing of the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776. We've had a few wars directly related to that document since then but nothing that would relegate it useless.




    Until now. gwb and his party of neverending power usurption has fought that document and all of it's aftermath documents such as the constitution and all of it's amendments for well over 200 years now.

    Do some history research, gm. It will grow you. And think about the values Americans most relish!!!!!!!!
    So is power.

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    Our Constitution divided that power for a very good reason.



    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    So is power.

    What do you advocate in this instance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    American freedom was secured with the signing of the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776. We've had a few wars directly related to that document since then but nothing that would relegate it useless.....
    Wow. What a strage view of history. Ya think the British King just said "nice to know ya, bye bye" to the signers? Or do you think he might have sent a few regiments over to kick some colonial ass?

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