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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Everyone is a speculator so it's a loaded term. Nevertheless they were swimming in a pool overfilled by the Fed; they didn't cause the bubble they merely were raised by the water level. I do fear that the Fed has merely created a different bubble causing other assets to rise but we'll see.

    So regarding the ghost cities it seems that they have been sold as speculation to speculators. If that bubble happens to burst then whose fault would it be? The speculators or the government who allowed a corruption profits bubble?
    The government couldn’t care less whose fault it is. If the bubble bursts the property companies go bust and the owners lose, not the economy. If it in any way affected the economy, the property company owners would be arrested and jailed, or shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John V View Post
    The government couldn’t care less whose fault it is. If the bubble bursts the property companies go bust and the owners lose, not the economy. If it in any way affected the economy, the property company owners would be arrested and jailed, or shot.
    Especially when it's the government's fault and they are the ones with the guns. Bubbles burst but it's the aftermath that determines how badly things get. We had an '87 market crash, barely a blip in the long run and we moved on. We had an '08/'09 crash and the Fed muffed up the response to Bear Stearns/Lehman, etc.; it's ridiculous to blame "speculators" both here and there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John V View Post
    Drummond, part of my job involves spotting nit-pickers, baiters and those with such a poor level of knowledge that they latch on to other posters but never put their own ideas out for others to see. The Telegraph is media, now if that, google and Wiki is where you get your info from it makes a poor showing. I have you down as a typical product of a UK leftie liberal, integrating yourself with the mainstream because you are unable to articulate anything yourself. I’m not critical of America, I’m critical of every country, its politicians and their policies – it’s what I do for a living.


    Now, I’ll tell you what will impress me. Away you go and write a short 1000 word essay on any aspect of the political or social topic of your choice. Post it, no google, no quotes, (we can usually spot plagiarism), in your own words and using your own explanations. Now go away and impress me, I’ll give you an honest opinion and if I was wrong about you, I’ll admit it.
    Well, well. And to think I welcomed you here.

    Anyone accusing me of any form of link, sympathy, adherence to, ANY measure of Leftieism WHATEVER insults me. My most fervent wish is to consider that, one day, any and all forms of Socialism on this planet will be universally shunned every bit as completely, with every bit of comparable disgust and revulsion, as NATIONAL Socialism is, today.

    Your insult against me defies my entire history on this forum, as well as others I participated on before it.

    When I was very young, I had some belief in Socialism. Then I saw how all the hype in no way measured up to the 'promise'. So, I grew up. I experienced the Three Day Week of the early '70's. I experienced the Union chaos leading up to, and during, the Winter of Discontent. I saw Britain become a basket case of a society.

    And I saw Margaret Thatcher reverse our fortunes, give us a sense of self-respect once more.

    You should also know this history, and know it well, and appreciate the truth of my words probably more than almost any other contributor currently here. But my guess is that you'd rather continue to abuse. As you abuse the honourable spirit of Conservative America, true to their willingness to fight evils which you'd happily dismiss as a form of nationalistic jingoism.

    Your cynicism is negative. It serves no creditable purpose.

    Now congratulate me on my 'original' words. Or, dream up another excuse to libel my entire political nature. Your choice.
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Well, well. And to think I welcomed you here.

    Anyone accusing me of any form of link, sympathy, adherence to, ANY measure of Leftieism WHATEVER insults me. My most fervent wish is to consider that, one day, any and all forms of Socialism on this planet will be universally shunned every bit as completely, with every bit of comparable disgust and revulsion, as NATIONAL Socialism is, today.

    Your insult against me defies my entire history on this forum, as well as others I participated on before it.

    When I was very young, I had some belief in Socialism. Then I saw how all the hype in no way measured up to the 'promise'. So, I grew up. I experienced the Three Day Week of the early '70's. I experienced the Union chaos leading up to, and during, the Winter of Discontent. I saw Britain become a basket case of a society.

    And I saw Margaret Thatcher reverse our fortunes, give us a sense of self-respect once more.

    You should also know this history, and know it well, and appreciate the truth of my words probably more than almost any other contributor currently here. But my guess is that you'd rather continue to abuse. As you abuse the honourable spirit of Conservative America, true to their willingness to fight evils which you'd happily dismiss as a form of nationalistic jingoism.

    Your cynicism is negative. It serves no creditable purpose.

    Now congratulate me on my 'original' words. Or, dream up another excuse to libel my entire political nature. Your choice.
    Oh come on Drummond, you want me to be straight with you, or what? The nit picking is what ‘lefties’ do, we’ve all been through it. You could write a brilliant article against Obama, but get his date of birth wrong and you know as well as I do a ‘leftie’ would jump on that to prove the whole article wrong. It’s why I said that the British mainland hadn’t been invaded since 1066 (it was for your benefit) and true to form you picked up on that straight away. You’re a googler, a searcher for alternative information, relying on other people’s quotes. That’s not insulting, it just makes it difficult to have a debate with you.

    By the way, the only way to get rid of socialism is to introduce anarchism where there is no government as a third party distributor and that would simply produce a different hierarchal structure.

    Yes, I agree with what you’ve just said about Thatcher, in fact I’d go further and say if it wasn’t for her we’d now be a UKSSR led by a comrade party secretary Galloway. Where I disagree is the U.S. as a knight in ideological shining armour out to police the world. That’s not just my view, it’s a view that a large part of the world share, including the other big two, China and Russia. Exceptionalism, a view of superiority, is exactly that, nationalistic jingoism.

    Your ‘original’ words contain a paragraph of hurt feelings, one of a very basic subjective account of Thatcher and a sentence of how I should be aware of history and another sentence reiterating your support of America’s actions. Hardly an explanation of anything is it. I’m waiting for an in depth explanation on anything from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John V View Post
    Drummond, part of my job involves spotting nit-pickers, baiters and those with such a poor level of knowledge that they latch on to other posters but never put their own ideas out for others to see. The Telegraph is media, now if that, google and Wiki is where you get your info from it makes a poor showing. I have you down as a typical product of a UK leftie liberal, integrating yourself with the mainstream because you are unable to articulate anything yourself. I’m not critical of America, I’m critical of every country, its politicians and their policies – it’s what I do for a living.


    Now, I’ll tell you what will impress me. Away you go and write a short 1000 word essay on any aspect of the political or social topic of your choice. Post it, no google, no quotes, (we can usually spot plagiarism), in your own words and using your own explanations. Now go away and impress me, I’ll give you an honest opinion and if I was wrong about you, I’ll admit it.

    Drummond, part of my job involves spotting nit-pickers, baiters and those with such a poor level of knowledge that they latch on to other posters but never put their own ideas out for others to see.
    ^^^^^^^ Hoss, you are not riding that train all by your lonesome. I too have a keen eye and ear for that type of poster and Drummond is by no measure one of that type. I know him from another forum in which he impressed me with his keen intellect and passion for conservative ideas. In fact, it was I that invited him here to add to this forum as an outstanding member.

    Myself, I find it quite strange that you level such a charge then add to the insult the request(?)/demand(?), that he should race away to write an essay to prove that mistaken accusation to be an error by you! Such audacity may be a staple in your dealing with your students in Thailand
    , but here it just seems insulting, petty and unduly given!
    Methinks it is he that should now use that cover all that you swear by....--Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    ^^^^^^^ Hoss, you are not riding that train all by your lonesome. I too have a keen eye and ear for that type of poster and Drummond is by no measure one of that type. I know him from another forum in which he impressed me with his keen intellect and passion for conservative ideas. In fact, it was I that invited him here to add to this forum as an outstanding member.

    Myself, I find it quite strange that you level such a charge then add to the insult the request(?)/demand(?), that he should race away to write an essay to prove that mistaken accusation to be an error by you! Such audacity may be a staple in your dealing with your students in Thailand
    , but here it just seems insulting, petty and unduly given!
    Methinks it is he that should now use that cover all that you swear by....--Tyr
    ‘’I know him from another forum in which he impressed me with his keen intellect and passion for conservative ideas.’’
    I’ve already said I’m willing to change my mind if I discover proof of that. So far, I haven’t. As for my own views, they’re already here on the forum.

    P.S.
    I’ll tell you the difference between us Tyr. I’m willing to state my opinions, put them online, explain them and debate them; not hide behind an ideological label and have to goggle for explanations and pick bits I don’t like out of those of others. You know my thoughts, they’re here on the forum; I still haven’t got a clue as to yours. I’m not frightened of being proved wrong, in fact I’d welcome it, as it would provide me with a new perspective. I don’t stand on the side lines using one liners and pretending I know about political or social science and if someone writes a piece I’d welcome it, even if it contains inaccuracies. That’s the difference between us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John V View Post
    ‘’I know him from another forum in which he impressed me with his keen intellect and passion for conservative ideas.’’
    I’ve already said I’m willing to change my mind if I discover proof of that. So far, I haven’t. As for my own views, they’re already here on the forum.
    I agree with many of those views but certainly not all.
    I walk not in lockstep with others to garner strength, aid or favor.
    I found that to be a solid stand and one that my friend Drummond adheres to himself.
    He could just as well launch the same accusation against you and make the same threat as you did about those that overuse Google, snipe and troll.. That he does not do so speaks highly of his integrity and keen sense of fair play.

    Myself, I've seen none of the evidence which you claim validates the charge you made against him..
    Write me a validation paper on those charges made , say a thousand words or less stating the evidence that leads to your bringing such a charge. If your paper proves your case , you will have my apology for my disbelief and my suspicion of your true character.
    See, lets all be accusers and demanding of proof of unfounded accusations .
    Whats good for the goose is good for the gander, eh? -Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by John V View Post
    ‘’I know him from another forum in which he impressed me with his keen intellect and passion for conservative ideas.’’
    I’ve already said I’m willing to change my mind if I discover proof of that. So far, I haven’t. As for my own views, they’re already here on the forum.

    P.S.
    I’ll tell you the difference between us Tyr. I’m willing to state my opinions, put them online, explain them and debate them; not hide behind an ideological label and have to goggle for explanations and pick bits I don’t like out of those of others. You know my thoughts, they’re here on the forum; I still haven’t got a clue as to yours. I’m not frightened of being proved wrong, in fact I’d welcome it, as it would provide me with a new perspective. I don’t stand on the side lines using one liners and pretending I know about political or social science and if someone writes a piece I’d welcome it, even if it contains inaccuracies. That’s the difference between us.


    You know my thoughts, they’re here on the forum; I still haven’t got a clue as to yours.
    Thats not my problem, plenty of evidence here about who and what I am. I hold nothing back and say exactly what I think, never been big into presenting Goggled ideas and words of others then claiming them my own -in fact never done that all on the falsely claim credit for others words.
    Here let me help you on your ignorance about me that you cited.

    http://www.debatepolicy.com/search.php?searchid=81759

    ^^^^ My threads started--47 pages.


    http://www.debatepolicy.com/search.php?searchid=81738

    ^^^^^ My posts--596 pages

    14, 894 posts, think you could learn about me if you cared to. So lets not hear any requests from you of me writing for you. There is tons of my writing here already.
    Have at it if you need information or ammo to fire.. Matters not to me.. -Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    I agree with many of those views but certainly not all.
    I walk not in lockstep with others to garner strength, aid or favor.
    I found that to be a solid stand and one that my friend Drummond adheres to himself.
    He could just as well launch the same accusation against you and make the same threat as you did about those that overuse Google, snipe and troll.. That he does not do so speaks highly of his integrity and keen sense of fair play.

    Myself, I've seen none of the evidence which you claim validates the charge you made against him..
    Write me a validation paper on those charges made , say a thousand words or less stating the evidence that leads to your bringing such a charge. If your paper proves your case , you will have my apology for my disbelief and my suspicion of your true character.
    See, lets all be accusers and demanding of proof of unfounded accusations .
    Whats good for the goose is good for the gander, eh? -Tyr
    I’ve already explained my views and the reasons why to Drummond, go and read them above. He didn’t post a thread explaining his position and neither have you and come to think of it, there’s an awful lot of missing beliefs here, but an awful lot of criticism of those of others.
    Look at the threads I’ve posted in just one week, can you match that and actually say something? I’ve already stated my views and position, have you? Have you got anything at all to say except walking in locksteps and cryptic nonsense?

    Of course I’m annoyed, never mind all this ‘he’s my friend’ rubbish, the pair of you haven’t the courage to stand up, speak out and make your views known for fear of challenge and if you ever do, that’s when I’ll respect you, no matter the criticism you’ll get from others. I’ve stated my position in long explanatory threads on Islam, my political beliefs, Religion, Modern Social Liberals, Googling and media information . . . and been criticised for it every step of the way by the lurkers just like yourself. Pop up, pretend you have any kind of knowledge of the subject, criticise and move on.
    I don’t have to validate myself I’ve already done it in explanatory threads. Here’s my answer to the pair of you in seven words, not a thousand. Explain to me what YOUR views are! If you’re frightened to do so, or haven’t a clue, I’ll understand and help you to explain them.

    I thought I’d do a quick thread post on socialism, something that’s commonly misunderstood. Perhaps you’d like to do it instead and tell us all the difference between the terms, socialism, socialist and communism and the role of the State as distributor? No? I didn’t think so, but just like the ones who won’t take the risk of flak, I’m willing to bet that you’ll be one of those jumping in to criticise me if I do. Now go and walk in lockstep with all that and unless you’ve got something to say about the social or politics, don’t waste my time.

    I very much doubt there’s anything I’ll learn from you about social or political theory.
    Your two links above provide the message:
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    Found one of yours on Islam. Our beliefs on Islam bear obvious similarities, except that I maintain it’s a problem across the western world.

    Here’s a ten minute academic critique. No silliness and no baiting. ‘I take my stand, you?’
    http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?36912-I-take-my-stand-you

    A total of 564 words that could be condensed into three short paragraphs in half the words used, 1) The problem, 2) The solution, 3) A summarisation.

    Structure
    1. English is obviously not your first language and an excessive wordiness at an attempt to produce an academic article makes it appear rambling and without direction or structure. It contains redundant phrases and excessive spelling errors.

    Example
    ‘Should we fail to unite and arrive at that conclusion, create a proper plan of action and pursue it with determination we shall meet our destruction. For abandoning our integrity, honor and justice we shall pay a heavy price. One that few will dare admit because such tragedy is always the fate of others and we console ourselves with that old line of comforting thinking. Should we fail to act such tragedy may possibly be a just fate for a peoples that have betrayed the sacrifice of millions that gave us the most precious of blessings: Independence, freedom, Rule of law and Constitution.! Such a combination that was not only unique in the world but has since failed to be duplicated !’
    Or
    If we choose to ignore and even encourage the problems inherent in a submissive Islamic ideology our way of life will be altered to such an extent that it will bear no resemblance to the constitution, or to those ideas which our Founding Fathers proposed. It is for this primary reason that the Islamification of America be halted.
    Continue with instances of why Islam is a danger and examples of its destructive nature.
    End with a summary of points raised and a conclusion.

    Content
    ‘Should we fail to unite and arrive at that conclusion, create a proper plan of action and pursue it with determination we shall meet our destruction.’ What is your ‘plan of action’? That ought to have been your summary.

    Redundant phrases
    ‘Shall not if we face it without fear and with determination birthed from defending that which is good and right about our nation.’
    ‘If you have no “blade” sell your costly toys to buy the best money can buy.’

    Summary
    The article has no structure and therefore the reader is forced to plough through the various repetitive points you’re trying to make about consequences, with no direction or conclusion. ‘Disjointed’ might be an appropriate word. It’s clear where you’re coming from, but excessively subjective.

    Now that’s a quick once over academic critique. No baiting or trying to pretend I’m something I’m not. No goggle to try to pretend I’m clever and no leading questions to try to catch anyone out.

    As for myself:
    a) I speak my mind and that’s often taken for arrogance, and b) I speak of what I know and that’s often seen as disdainful and c) I know what I’m talking about and that’s often viewed as elitist.
    If I come across as such it is not intentional.
    or
    a) I say what I mean and I mean what I say and b) Part of my job is to know and explain social and political theory and c) If you don’t know ask, instead of guessing and trying to be clever.
    Perhaps I will take your advice and be a one liner nodding dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John V View Post
    I’ve already explained my views and the reasons why to Drummond, go and read them above. He didn’t post a thread explaining his position and neither have you and come to think of it, there’s an awful lot of missing beliefs here, but an awful lot of criticism of those of others.
    Look at the threads I’ve posted in just one week, can you match that and actually say something? I’ve already stated my views and position, have you? Have you got anything at all to say except walking in locksteps and cryptic nonsense?

    Of course I’m annoyed, never mind all this ‘he’s my friend’ rubbish, the pair of you haven’t the courage to stand up, speak out and make your views known for fear of challenge and if you ever do, that’s when I’ll respect you, no matter the criticism you’ll get from others. I’ve stated my position in long explanatory threads on Islam, my political beliefs, Religion, Modern Social Liberals, Googling and media information . . . and been criticised for it every step of the way by the lurkers just like yourself. Pop up, pretend you have any kind of knowledge of the subject, criticise and move on.
    I don’t have to validate myself I’ve already done it in explanatory threads. Here’s my answer to the pair of you in seven words, not a thousand. Explain to me what YOUR views are! If you’re frightened to do so, or haven’t a clue, I’ll understand and help you to explain them.

    I thought I’d do a quick thread post on socialism, something that’s commonly misunderstood. Perhaps you’d like to do it instead and tell us all the difference between the terms, socialism, socialist and communism and the role of the State as distributor? No? I didn’t think so, but just like the ones who won’t take the risk of flak, I’m willing to bet that you’ll be one of those jumping in to criticise me if I do. Now go and walk in lockstep with all that and unless you’ve got something to say about the social or politics, don’t waste my time.

    I very much doubt there’s anything I’ll learn from you about social or political theory.
    Your two links above provide the message:
    Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

    I very much doubt there’s anything I’ll learn from you about social or political theory.
    Are you truly this clueless?? This is not a classroom and nobody here is conducting classes on any subject being discussed. Do you in your supposed greater intelligence think it is civil to come here , set classroom assignment to members and pretend we must obey or else be dismissed as buffoons?
    Be as damn rude as you like but knock off the holier than thou bullshit dude. Ive already seen your tango attempt at gunny. He took you apart and you ran quickly to label him a waste thus excuse yourself from having to reply to his comments addressing your biased judgments and errors.
    How did that turn out for you?--Tyr

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    I think a solution might be just to put you on ignore gunny. You've obviously nothing to say of any value. It's a little late for that tonight, so have your little rant, stamp your foot and I'll do it in the morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John V View Post
    I don’t think people in the west fully understand the effect of ‘sanctions.’ Of course it damages trade and everyone suffers, the European farmers are also suffering with reverse sanctions, but my point to those who think you can destroy a people’s will by them is this. The Chinese will, if it comes to it, exist on a bowl of rice a day and come out fighting – I expect it’s the same with the Russians, they’ll just tighten their belts. Conversely, in the west it would equal a major life catastrophe if your favourite brand of cheerio’s wasn’t available and that would hurt.
    The U.S. and EU introduce sanctions against Russia; Russia now sells oil and gas to China and Europe freezes. ‘We want the Ukraine to be an independentnation? The EU and U.S. were already in there trying to do deals and get it into the EU before Putin arrived. Take away those oil pipelines and no one in the west would have raised an eyebrow or cared less what happened there.
    Again, a broad judgment based on no actual knowledge. You should spend less time telling others what they are and more time listening. Your success at whatever you do WHERE YOU ARE has led to the same arrogance you are accusing everyone else of.

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    I’m just agreeing with one of your fellow Americans, Revelarts and asking you to consider new perspectives with an open mind as he did, instead of a closed mind. You’re not the only country to have suffered from an insular and myopic outlook.

    Look back at the revolution and what springs to mind when you think of the British Empire? Haughty, arrogant, controlling and what did they do in a rebellion? Send in the army. It happened over nearly a third of the world, ‘damn foreigners, they’re not like us’ and out they went to subdue. The French, Dutch (who still had apartheid until fairly recently in South Africa) . . . Many countries suffered from ‘exceptionalism’. In my lifetime I remember black golliwogs on jars of jam and signs in rented buildings stating, ‘No blacks, Irish or pets’. The older ones amongst you can still remember segregation in America itself. This isn’t communism and ‘reds under the beds’, this is basic history.
    Many have the same attitude now as England had just a century ago; if they’re not one of us and you can’t control them, kill them. They’re dangerous, a threat, they’re going to invade us . . . The end days of British rule is what you’re now experiencing with the backlash of terrorism and the bigger countries themselves drawing red lines, it’s just that many of you with closed ideological mind-set can’t see it or have difficulty accepting it.
    There's nothing open-minded about you so far, and if I'm not thinking like rev, I must be doing something right.

    You talk about having an open mind; yet, your argument amounts to little more than a presumptive judgment. No "bigger countries" created extremist Islam. The sectarian war WITHIN Islam between the Shia and Sunni did.

    Will be a neat trick if you can pull it off. Just put on ignore all that walk not in lockstep with you!
    Myself, I doubt you can justify to any member here your putting gunny on ignore, especially since his replies to you were both informative and presented without any form of rudeness.
    Hoss, this is a message board and you are not a teacher here. You are just another member expressing his opinion complete with bias that we all have.
    May be best for you to learn that now IMHO.-TYR
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    It would take someone a lot cleverer than either you or gunny to take me apart and I’ve offered both of you a debate. This is a political debate forum, not a message board. I gave up replying to comments because I know baiting when I see it and I’ve already tried being polite and conciliatory with you. Now instead of personal comments, ‘man up’ as I believe they say in America and debate me on politics, or leave it at that.
    I’ve already said I’m prepared to stop the essay articles and do the one liners and nod in agreement stuff. If you want to keep it simple so it doesn’t tax your brain too much I’m OK with that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John V View Post
    It would take someone a lot cleverer than either you or gunny to take me apart and I’ve offered both of you a debate. This is a political debate forum, not a message board. I gave up replying to comments because I know baiting when I see it and I’ve already tried being polite and conciliatory with you. Now instead of personal comments, ‘man up’ as I believe they say in America and debate me on politics, or leave it at that.
    I’ve already said I’m prepared to stop the essay articles and do the one liners and nod in agreement stuff. If you want to keep it simple so it doesn’t tax your brain too much I’m OK with that.
    I like your essay articles. Don't stop with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John V View Post
    It would take someone a lot cleverer than either you or gunny to take me apart and I’ve offered both of you a debate. This is a political debate forum, not a message board. I gave up replying to comments because I know baiting when I see it and I’ve already tried being polite and conciliatory with you. Now instead of personal comments, ‘man up’ as I believe they say in America and debate me on politics, or leave it at that.
    I’ve already said I’m prepared to stop the essay articles and do the one liners and nod in agreement stuff. If you want to keep it simple so it doesn’t tax your brain too much I’m OK with that.
    Really? I recall reading a post by you somewhere here in which you admitted having very little knowledge about America and American politics.
    Know suddenly you claim to have master knowledge on all politics.. I guess Google has become your new friend.
    Do not worry about taxing my brain. Better and smarter than you haven't ever taxed it enough to make me break a sweat.
    How about you stop pretending to be a teacher here?
    I doubt that Jim hired you to come here and teach your biased and arrogant judgments to we Americans.
    With that being a fact it is obvious that you desire to march in here and attempt to command members to obey your dictates while you spew false accusations against any that oppose in any way your agenda.
    I do not care if you write essays or one liners but I've never asked a soul to walk lockstep with me. As I like being ahead of the crowd and on my own.
    Carry on as you like but know this- you do not get to dictate to me how I post or how I may reply to you.
    If I agree with you I say so, if not I say so. Nobody has ever stopped me from doing and many have tried.
    Not just in Internet exchanges but also in a great many real life clashes- ALL FAILED..
    My blade has never been rusted in its scabbard.. -TYR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Really? I recall reading a post by you somewhere here in which you admitted having very little knowledge about America and American politics.
    Know suddenly you claim to have master knowledge on all politics.. I guess Google has become your new friend.
    Do not worry about taxing my brain. Better and smarter than you haven't ever taxed it enough to make me break a sweat.
    How about you stop pretending to be a teacher here?
    I doubt that Jim hired you to come here and teach your biased and arrogant judgments to we Americans.
    With that being a fact it is obvious that you desire to march in here and attempt to command members to obey your dictates while you spew false accusations against any that oppose in any way your agenda.
    I do not care if you write essays or one liners but I've never asked a soul to walk lockstep with me. As I like being ahead of the crowd and on my own.
    Carry on as you like but know this- you do not get to dictate to me how I post or how I may reply to you.
    If I agree with you I say so, if not I say so. Nobody has ever stopped me from doing and many have tried.
    Not just in Internet exchanges but also in a great many real life clashes- ALL FAILED..
    My blade has never been rusted in its scabbard.. -TYR
    I’m serious about what I said in my PM. Take care your big mouth doesn’t lead to your downfall, because any time now you might have to eat your personal comments. Understood?

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