Tales of The Midde Kingdom - Life in China

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I’m serious about what I said in my PM. Take care your big mouth doesn’t lead to your downfall, because any time now you might have to eat your personal comments. Understood?

A fool heeds not sound advice given. I gave you sound advice and appears to me you are about to not heed it.
Just remember this Hoss, you pm'ed me with a threat. I do not ignore such and never back down...

Now do your damn best to destroy me as you promised but know this , well over a hundred people have tried in my 61 years here on this blue marble. Nobody succeeded in that vain attempt.
I just do not respond sheepishly to threats Hoss. Careful what the hell you ask for, comprende?--Tyr

[John V]

A fool heeds not sound advice given. I gave you sound advice and appears to me you are about to not heed it.
Just remember this Hoss, you pm'ed me with a threat. I do not ignore such and never back down...

Now do your damn best to destroy me as you promised but know this , well over a hundred people have tried in my 61 years here on this blue marble. Nobody succeeded in that vain attempt.
I just do not respond sheepishly to threats Hoss. Careful what the hell you ask for, comprende?--Tyr

The threat is genuine. I will not destroy you, I will let your arrogance destroy you against the knowledge of a social science teacher and every time it happens, I will continue to issue challenges to you, again and again and again. I will wipe your arrogance off this forum. I will look at the thread tomorrow.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

The threat is genuine. I will not destroy you, I will let your arrogance destroy you against the knowledge of a social science teacher and every time it happens, I will continue to issue challenges to you, again and again and again. I will wipe your arrogance off this forum. I will look at the thread tomorrow.

Methinks your arrogance knows no bounds. What? You think you are the only teacher in the world?
When you flew to your foreign overseas job did they charge you extra fair for the massive ego?
Issue as many challenges as you like, I respond to posts that I want to and not to commands from any person.
Start wiping dude, the counter needs cleaning first and after that the windows. --Tyr

[Drummond]

The threat is genuine. I will not destroy you, I will let your arrogance destroy you against the knowledge of a social science teacher and every time it happens, I will continue to issue challenges to you, again and again and again. I will wipe your arrogance off this forum. I will look at the thread tomorrow.

This is just sick.

John V: really ... what the hell is wrong with you ??

You haven't been on this forum five minutes, and you're exhibiting an attacking 'haughtiness' suggestive of someone very badly in need of exercising a monumental ego. I am indeed sorry I welcomed you here, certainly if you intend to continue with such ridiculous conduct.

My belief is that you've one almighty chip on your shoulder about what you've seen Americans do in the wider world. Are you here in the hope of, as you'd see it, 'teaching them the error of their ways' .. ?

I've a couple of things to say to you.

One - I feel absolutely no need, see absolutely no reason, to make any effort to 'prove myself' to you. I have my beliefs. I have my debating style. I am thoroughly clear on what I consider I wish to do on a forum such as this. What I do NOT need is judgmentality from you on this, nor to satisfy your self-opinionated 'standards' so that I may 'gratefully' gain your 'approval' !!!

You want to know what I believe in, and why, and how I justify my various thoughts ? THEN DO THE RESEARCH. There's plenty to check on, here, on this forum. It's only a few mouse-clicks away. Your sick dialogue with Tyr convinces me that I want no dialogue with you ... so, research will be your only recourse.

If, regardless, you feel any continuing need to libel me, first be sure of the extent of that libel before you do. In so doing, you may gain an appreciation of just how ludicrous such attacks really are. And how counterproductively pointless is the effort.

As for what I think is true of you -- I do think you're heavily jaundiced in your thinking about American conduct in the world. You resent any and all capabilities they have to make their mark .. don't you ? So, if or when any American shows pride, self-belief, self-righteousness, you feel some need within you to knock it down, any way you can.

This is what's currently fueling your exchange with Tyr, isn't it ?

It's shameful conduct, in my view. Since you're on this forum, you should be using the opportunity it provides you to expand your horizons. If you have disagreements, and you think you can creditably defend your corner, do it dispassionately, and non-judgmentally.

And if, ultimately, that extent of objectivity is really beyond you .. then ask yourself .. who REALLY needs to learn a lesson here.

[Drummond]

Methinks your arrogance knows no bounds. What? You think you are the only teacher in the world?
When you flew to your foreign overseas job did they charge you extra fair for the massive ego?
Issue as many challenges as you like, I respond to posts that I want to and not to commands from any person.
Start wiping dude, the counter needs cleaning first and after that the windows. --Tyr

[aboutime]

I suspect John has had major construction work done where he lives, and works. They probably spent thousands WIDENING EVERY DOOR....to allow his Huge Head entry into different rooms. It's not an ego thing.
It's called ARROGANCE!

John is probably a good candidate for a professorship at one of our Liberal, Ivy League, Bastions of Stupidity.

[aboutime]

The threat is genuine. I will not destroy you, I will let your arrogance destroy you against the knowledge of a social science teacher and every time it happens, I will continue to issue challenges to you, again and again and again. I will wipe your arrogance off this forum. I will look at the thread tomorrow.

John. We have names for people like you. But, in keeping with the wishes of the Owner of this forum. I will simply remind everyone else how Literally Stupid, Arrogant, and Self-centered I believe you have proven to be.

[aboutime]

I’m serious about what I said in my PM. Take care your big mouth doesn’t lead to your downfall, because any time now you might have to eat your personal comments. Understood?

John. SO, based on what you have been advertising here to all of us. Would you like to tell us HOW LONG you have been an ACTIVE member of ISIS? Making threats is something most all of us VETERANS look forward to allowing people like you to PERSONALLY appear to back up your TALK with the WALK.

Now, it's your turn.

[Drummond]

John. We have names for people like you. But, in keeping with the wishes of the Owner of this forum. I will simply remind everyone else how Literally Stupid, Arrogant, and Self-centered I believe you have proven to be.

Well said, Aboutime.

We have, in this character, someone who refuses to move a fraction of an inch beyond his extremely narrow perceptions ... and thinks that others have a duty to conform to his comparably narrow points of reference in order to then receive the 'gift' of his approval.

He has every right to express whatever beliefs he holds to. If he feels he can justify himself, fine. But this attacking judgmentality, aiming such attacks as personalised threatening ... it's disgusting.

If he has British values, he should understand that he utterly fails to represent them in any creditable fashion on this forum.

[John V]

No, it’s not arrogance, it’s called being sick and tired of the baiting by the few and the constant criticism and personal attacks when posting more than one liners. The Russians were also jumped on from the word go and I can assure you in PMs, they also feel the same. The introductory threads contain warnings to tone it down for newcomers and it always applies to the same few. My response is, as the English say, put your money where your mouth is and prove how clever you are face to face, instead of throwing insults from behind your key boards! Come on big mouth Tyr, let's see what you've got.

As this is a political forum, I issue a personal challengeof a one to one debate toTyr-Ziu Saxnoton aspects of social or political science, explanation only, without google or plagiarised quotes.

Aspects of which could include Marxism, progressivism, and critical theory (Frankfurt school, cultural Marxism), classical ideologies, criminology . . .
Specifics might include but are not limited to the differences between socialism and communism; the rise and effects of industrialism in the western world; the development of classical ideological thought; social and cultural changes in values and norms as a result of mass immigration . . .
Or any of the classical theorists, Durkheim, Marx, Weber, Foucault . . .

I envisage that this person will accept, given his many criticisms and personal comments on my work already posted here.

[aboutime]

Well said, Aboutime.

We have, in this character, someone who refuses to move a fraction of an inch beyond his extremely narrow perceptions ... and thinks that others have a duty to conform to his comparably narrow points of reference in order to then receive the 'gift' of his approval.

He has every right to express whatever beliefs he holds to. If he feels he can justify himself, fine. But this attacking judgmentality, aiming such attacks as personalised threatening ... it's disgusting.

If he has British values, he should understand that he utterly fails to represent them in any creditable fashion on this forum.

Thank you, but I should add. John seems to be nothing but a Brit version of any one of the Obama followers who demand ONLY they can decide what other people can say, do, eat, read, or believe. It is exactly how Obama managed to get such a following of Idiots, and Low Information voters to do his bidding.
John is just a SCAB on the wound we call Socialism, and the Band-aids for such wounds can only come in the form of PREPARATION H applied to their lips!

[John V]

Thank you, but I should add. John seems to be nothing but a Brit version of any one of the Obama followers who demand ONLY they can decide what other people can say, do, eat, read, or believe. It is exactly how Obama managed to get such a following of Idiots, and Low Information voters to do his bidding.
John is just a SCAB on the wound we call Socialism, and the Band-aids for such wounds can only come in the form of PREPARATION H applied to their lips!

My political beliefs are here:
http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?49871-Where-do-I-stand-in-American-politics

Don’t worry you’ll also get your chance of a one to one debate later.

[Drummond]

Don’t worry you’ll also get your chance of a one to one debate later.

Bestowing your generous consideration, eh ? Should he feel honoured ?

As for your link, I found this wording from you within it ...

I’m always kind, I’m British.

... except when you're issuing threats, of course, because you have an overwhelming need to slap a 'naughty American' (i.e one not appreciative of your self-styled 'superiority') down. The part of your quote I can agree with is the smilie ...

You really need to drop the attitude. CAN YOU ? If you did but understand, you're making a fool of yourself. Precious few here will feel any need to defer to your wholly invented sense of insufferable superiority ... and why on earth would they even consider it ?

[Drummond]

No, it’s not arrogance ...

Trust me: IT IS. It pervades your posting.

What fascinates me is that you obviously think that you'll get people to show you deference in the face of it. I think that nothing could be more unlikely.

You want (- and no doubt yearn for -) some respect ? Simple life lesson, here ... BE WILLING TO SHOW SOME.

Drop the confrontational rot, stop the threats. They are completely pointless.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Trust me: IT IS. It pervades your posting.

What fascinates me is that you obviously think that you'll get people to show you deference in the face of it. I think that nothing could be more unlikely.

You want (- and no doubt yearn for -) some respect ? Simple life lesson, here ... BE WILLING TO SHOW SOME.

Drop the confrontational rot, stop the threats. They are completely pointless.

I suspect that he wants me to place him on ignore that way he eliminates any that would post replies opposing this arrogance and self- aggrandizing display of his Brit superiority over we ignorant Americans. Dude acts like being a "social science teacher" is some kind of holy and majestic achievement worthy of lesser beings bowing to his far omnipotent being.
Look at me, I am a magnificent "social science teacher" --don't you wish you were one as well?
I suspect that he choose the social science path because there is so much leeway to be arrogant and advance by towing the line.--Tyr